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Please add his recent speech to his activism: "Roger Waters, speaking on behalf of the Russell Tribunal, delivers a very nicely put speech in front of delegates on International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People. This day also marks an important development in the Palestinians' bid to statehood as they are now recognized as a non-member observer state." Thanks.

Nothing about anti-semitism yet. LOL. I'll check back in a few days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.245.161 (talk) 23:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Removed some categories

Also, this bio is being discussed at the WP:BLPN board. --Malerooster (talk) 20:17, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Accusations of anti-Semitism and material concerning same

Can what title and what material that should be added here please be discussed by all users since there seems to be a clear slow motion edit war going on? I don't really care what title is used, but I did revert it and I also removed some material that seemed ORish and not sure how notable or RS the citation was. I would much prefer to add material that has been very widely covered and discussed by multiple RS. Thank you. --Malerooster (talk) 17:25, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I brought this to the BLP board. The more eyes the better. --Malerooster (talk) 17:33, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

it seems like the erasing issue is motivated not from "making the article better" point but from subjective bias. the section is clearly about 2 subjects. you can't say that critizism of israel is the same as antisemitism. moreover- the erases are made mostly without any explenation whereas i gave alredy couple of explenations. also, it seems that there are some usere eager to erase the antisemitism thing, although it is well recorded and a provided enough references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottyNolan (talk • contribs) 18:50, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Do we actually have secondary sources as sources from ppl who accuse him of anti-semitism isnt the same at all. You are giving undue weight to these accusations, esp turning a header into an accusation, it isnt acceptable, nor is edit warring against multiple editors and you are in danger of being blocked for violating the WP:3RR rule. Thanks, ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 19:00, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

• Only one or two named persons have actually accused Waters of anti-semtitism. So this is absolutely WP:UNDUE and as such I will change it back to a more neutral header per WP:BLP. GabeMc 19:32, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

you don't even refer to the points i wrote before- critisizm of israel is not the same as antisemitism and putting those subjects together without appropriate reference to them both is wrong. i suggested before that the antisemitism section will be seperated but it was put together so at least we can make the headlige right without the feeling that it's a try to "erase" the antisemitism issue.

Waters was accused in antisemitism by more tham 2 people as i presented in the references. moreover, he was accused by notanle people in the local community and in Wiesenthal Center. i don't see who dismissing a whole section in the article is "neutral".

i gave a lot of sources- both from newspapers and ADL ( i dont see anyone disputing ADL to be an unreliabe source), moreover- Water's reaction is presented in the article with a reference to facebook, is facebook is a reliable sourse? are all those users erasing without explenation don't violate the rules? thet are, but i dont see you blocking them.

therefore my conclusion on the whole issue that it's full of subjective bias and not objective contribution to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottyNolan (talk • contribs) 19:46, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

• Scotty Nolan. IMO, you are pushing a nasty POV that violates WP:BLP. You've been edit warring and agenda pushing at this article. Waters is not anti-Semitic, he is anti-imperialism. He is against the illegal settlements that Israel is building; he is not anti-semitic. Just because one or two people have said this we don't add it as a fact to a WP:BLP (the pig balloon has been used since 2010). As it reads now its fairly neutral and balanced. The most notable criticisms are highlighted and Waters' responses noted. IMO, you are trying to slant the tone of the article to prove that Waters is anti-semitic, which is highly inappropriate. Do you really think that a guy whose father died fighting Nazis would grow-up to be pro-Nazi? GabeMc 19:54, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

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