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Market Square (High Point, North Carolina)

I've been following the story of the renovated tobacoo buildings in Winston-Salem. I noticed the man who seems to be in charge of that is named Tomlinson. When I see that name I still think of that great-looking Tomlinson furniture factory in High Point, and I was so happy to find out others agreed with me and preserved it. It is a quite interesting story but I'm having some trouble finding out details on the National Register information. I was hoping you could point me in the right direction.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:33, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, the article looks very good already. As you see i just tried adding an NRHP infobox and made other changes--please feel free to move that infobox within the article, or delete it, or revert anything else. The article would benefit from your getting the actual detailed NRHP nomination document. For North Carolina those documents are usually not available on-line, but they are available for free to you from the National Register. Follow instructions at wp:NRHPhelp to make an email request. Often they have it in electronic form ready to email back to you; otherwise they could run a photocopy and send it by postal mail, again for free. Hope this helps; good luck! --doncram 21:00, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, even better: following the North Carolina-specific instructions someone added at wp:NRHPhelp#North Carolina, I find my way to http://www.hpo.ncdcr.gov/nr/GF0173.pdf, the NRHP document (by Ray Manieri, dated September 1, 1982, with maps and one historic photo)! Enjoy. You can still request the National Register copy, and would receive a bigger set of accompanying photos, too, probably. --doncram 21:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I knew you were interested in NRHP structures so I thought it was worth a try.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
(ec, while i added a little to the above). Great! --doncram 21:08, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I know it's silly but I make it a practice never to go to more than a few select sites at home. And this has turned out to be a good thing in this case. One "official" site for Market Square gave a virus warning. I found another one. The other one was for a company that sold the complex. And today I decided to go to that NRHP document but I have a limited amount of time at most of the libraries I go to. And this was taking an exceptionally long time to do anything. Plus after I gave up everything was so slow it was almost pointless to stay on the computer, but I don't know if there was a connection. I'll try again maybe next week.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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NHRP Data

Hi, Doncram, I'm theonesean. I'm trying to get more into content creation, and NHRP seemed like a good place to start. However, NHRP's web search is sketchy at best and their database file is currently unavailable to download. I was wondering if maybe you had a copy of it that you could share with me? If you don't, that's fine. Thanks, theonesean 16:04, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Have you followed instructions at wp:NRHPhelp about getting that, already? Probably you have? Sometimes the National Park Service servers are down, but they come back up in a day or two. I am happy to help and I do have the mid-2010 version of the NRIS downloaded somewhere, and it is probably not too big to send by email. Send me an email. --doncram 17:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh i see now at the NRIS download site (within the download all area, which is what you want) a message "Download entire database will be available again soon." That is probably great news, i am guessing it means they will have a current/2013 update soon, much better to wait briefly and start working with that. I and others have worked too long with 2010 version. --doncram 19:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Cimarron Redoubt

Perhaps you've seen that I reverted you — not because I objected to your action here, but because I created the category that you rightly removed. Virtually every county in the country has a "Buildings and structures in COUNTYNAME County, STATENAME", so if you find other articles with a redlinked category of that sort, I'd ask that you resolve the problem by creating the category instead of removing it. Nyttend (talk) 22:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay will do, if it comes up again. I wasn't sure if that could be a really small county, not likely to have many notable buildings, so i had just chosen to shorten the category name, when i came across the redlink category. Not sure how i came across Cimarron Redoubt either. Thanks. --doncram 23:25, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I've done rather little work with Kansas, so I don't know for sure, but judging by things farther east, I'd expect the courthouse to be notable. Throw that in with the county's other four NR listings, and we definitely have enough articles for a category that's part of a sequence. Don't know how much you've done with CFD, so I'm not sure if you would or wouldn't know — they're really not friendly toward the deletion of individual non-empty categories that are in sequences, regardless of how small they are. See Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 March 24, at which I put in a deletion nomination for Category:National Register of Historic Places in Crawford County, Indiana: the county has just two listings (one of which wasn't listed in 2012) and one article, but the category got kept because some people didn't want to delete part of a sequence. Nyttend (talk) 00:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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normal sort

If the project wishes to sort based on this, they can. Remember that most building articles do not sort on anything except the actual building name. The biggest exception I have noticed is religious buildings in the UK where they mostly sort based on city/town. So when you put these different choices these into a broader category, you get a random mess. As I said, if the project wants to sort within the project categories that way, they are free to do so, but then it would be a piped sort and not something applied to all categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:50, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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Chicago Theatre documents

You are the expert in finding NRHP documents. I have tried http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NRHP/Text/79000822.pdf which is suppose to be the url for the Chicago Theatre text, but it is not yet digitized. I have just realized the reason this article has not appeared at Misplaced Pages:Selected anniversaries/October 26 is that the text regarding it emblematic marquee is not well sourced. Can you help.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) NRHP documents in Illinois can be found through the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency's HARGIS system. Here is the document for the Chicago Theatre. TheCatalyst31 22:23, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Surprisingly that form does not state that the Marquee is a significant emblematic element in a way that will help me to source its popularity and cultural significance. Any other ideas?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Just about everything i know about finding NRHP documents is written into wp:NRHPhelp, e.g. whatever is at wp:NRHPhelp#Illinois. Since TheCatalyst31 found the NRHP nom document--thanks!--through Hargis, I don't think i can add anything more.
I do like the Chicago Theatre article. Browsing it, i am interested to learn about the Municipal Device, the Y that appears in the marquee background. Too bad the current footnote 7 is a dead link, perhaps that is an important one for you. Can the wayback machine help you get a link to that source? I honestly don't know. Good luck, sorry i can't be of more help. --doncram 23:36, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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Copyvios

I thought I warned you about inordinate quotation. This is your reminder, since articles such as St. John's German Evangelical Lutheran Church demonstrate that you're still infringing copyright. Nyttend (talk) 21:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Nyttend, I believe you are completely incorrect in your assessment that there is a copyvio in that article, and in other articles. This has been explained to you before. There are serious matters here: for one, copyvio is serious, and for another, an administrator repeatedly making accusations about copyvio that I believe -- and others have agreed -- are incorrect. I think this needs some discussion in a proper forum, and am open to doing this. However, I wonder if some kind of "workshop" type of RFC could be convened at a neutral location, as an alternative to making it an RFC/U about yourself or a different prosecutorial-type discussion about me. I sincerely believe that you think short "verbatim quotations" are copyvios; however I sincerely believe you are dead wrong. --doncram 22:02, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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Good old days?

Found this gem today while taking some time to look back at the very beginning of the project, specifically the short-lived User:NrhpBot. Whoever said this seems like a pretty reasonable person to me. Have you seen him lately? ;)--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 07:34, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

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List of Odd Fellows buildings

This is one of those "Yes, but ... " messages. I'm mentioning this to emphasise the "Yes" part, and minimise the "but" part.
I'd like you to know that I'm impressed with your perseverance on this topic, and with the quality of your work. I'd like to thank you.
(BTW: Hotel Norfolk is a place in the US, not Oz.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:55, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! And u will have noticed i fixed the Hotel Norfolk -> Norfolk Hotel mixup in the next edit. Glad you're a fan. cheers, --doncram 13:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Glad you're a fan. - Yea!! Go team!! Rah! Rah! Rah! (Sorry I'm not a perky blonde young female - c'est la vie ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:11, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at AfC Bailey Colony Farm was accepted

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Kirill  16:19, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive editing at Crow House

Please stop your disruptive editing at Crow House! As you know, this article was extensively discussed at WT:WPDAB, now archived there. You participated. There was consensus that this article should not be deleted but should be a set index article and not a disambiguation page. You have now twice tried to revert consensus. If you think consensus has changed or you wish to change consensus, please reopen discussion at WT:WPDAB. Otherwise, sneaky or disruptive edits will not go unnoticed and unreported. Thank you. 66.217.203.232 (talk) 19:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Huh, I happened across Crow House in a list of NRHP wikiproject pages needing rating, and did the obvious corrections to it. I did not recall that previous discussion, out of many previous discussions about dab pages, but i do find it archived at Crow House discussion at wt:dab. The consensus as i read it there, again, is that Crow House is obviously a dab page.
To the non-logged in editor, use your account or open one, to have a discussion, okay? I don't want it here. --doncram 20:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
In particular, discuss at Talk:Crow House#dab or sia?, which links to the old discussion. You could post a new notice at at wt:dab, to direct others to the discussion, if you wish. Anyhow, continue there, not here. --doncram 20:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Milford Lil Bucs

MLB is a football team for milford.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickiminajdaughter (talkcontribs) 20:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey, i think someone posted here accidentally. I don't mind, but don't think this is going to be included in the intended article (Milford, Connecticut?). --doncram 20:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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