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Infobox information about director.

Hey guys, seeing as Joss Whedon directed the post credits scene, which is already stated in the article and see this link .

So in the info box, should it say that the film was directed by just Kenneth Brannagh or Kenneth Brannagh and Joss Whedon?The Editor 155 (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Is that a serious question?Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:22, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

The fact is covered in the body of the article. I dont think its notable enough for inclusion in the infobox. Besides Branagh is the only credited director of the film.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Triiiple. We can mention Whedon's involvement in the article body. Having both in the infobox gives the impression of both being equally responsible for the film, and I think a note in parentheses would just add clutter. The article body is the best placement. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Critical response

Would it be OK if we replaced Richard Roeper's positive quote with another critic's positive quote that actually says something and gives a reason? "The best since Spider-Man!" is a blurb, not a thoughtful, explanatory reason such as "I found the family scenes poignant" or "The action scenes were well-choreographed," or some such. Roeper isn't saying anything substantive whatsoever in his quote. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

good suggestion. Go and do it and i'll be there to proof-read it!! Best,--Ktlynch (talk) 17:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I readded Roeper's review with his full quote, the blurb was taken from part a larger quote that did provide substance (Hemsorth's performance).--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Context makes all the difference! Good one. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

The article currently states that the film "received generally favorable reviews." Would it be fair to change this to "received mixed to positive reviews?" I realize that the film has 77% on Rotten Tomatoes, but many of those reviews were pretty lukewarm (it's average score after all is only 6.7, signifying exactly that, a mixed response). It's score on Metacritic would also suggests that critical response was mixed or average. S. Luke (talk) 03:26, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

I would say so but not because of RT's average score but because Metacritic's aggregate is mixed while RT's is positive.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:04, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

The page for Iron Man 2 says the film had "generally positive reviews" when it had 74%, lower than Thor, and 57 on Metacritic, the same score. Since critical reaction to Thor was more enthusiastic than Iron Man 2, why doesn't it say "generally positive" as well? Rotten Tomatoes' score is more valid since far more critics post on Rotten Tomatoes than Metacritic, and Rotten Tomatoes' aggregation works by percentage whilst Metacritic works by average. Also, The Incredible Hulk is said to have had "generally positive reviews" at 66%. Saying it had mixed to positive reviews makes it sound like it was the worst reviewed out of these 3 movies when it was not. (ThisIsPathetic (talk) 08:40, 29 April 2012 (UTC))

Teseract

I want to mention that the tesseract was what was seen in Captain America, but there was a glitch and when I fixed it Wiki thought I was edit warring! Help! Somebody else has to fix it, or else I will be blocked from editing! All I need, is for one of you to put "(which is the tessaract seen in Captain America: The First Avenger)" after it says "mysterious object." Again: Help! Stupid glitch!

No prob! Happened to me once before, so I completely sympathise with you!

There is no glitch, people are undoing your edit because it is information from another film and has no reason to be in the plot section of this one. The system thinks you are edit-warring because you keep replacing the content despite numerous discussions on the matter saying don't do it. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:47, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

It has a place on it. The films are connected, and it should be stated for people who could potentially want to know about it. It should be mentioned on it, or at leasted somewhere on the page. And it as never stated on a discussion page 'don't do it.' And true, it isn't a glitch, but that was the best name I could think of for this. As far as I know, the computer is deleting it thinking I'm edit warring because I just happened to be editing the same time somebody else did, and it thought the info was contradictory, which it wasn't, it always says that, though. I put it back, it thought I was trying to start an edit war, and I did it again, not knowing it thought that. The story of the Avengers are in the same series, and are connected, so just because it doesn't have the same hero in it doesn't mean its in a completely different universe. It has a big part in the Avengers, and should be said at least somewhere in the article. If you have any contradiction, or an idea of where to put the info, be my guest to reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.73.96 (talk) 23:16, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm genuinely tired of having this discussion with people. No one has any idea what role that box will have in the Avengers and any comment that the box at the end of Thor and the box in Captain America are the same is pure original research which is not acceptable on Misplaced Pages and does not belong in the plot. I don't know why there is a push to consider all readers of Misplaced Pages stupid, but they aren't. The cube has no story, it has no history in Thor and any external commentary does not belong here. If it appears in the Avengers and is called the Cosmic Cube it will still not be acceptable to alter this article with the information retroactively because it is not what is presented in the film. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:23, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, fine, it may or may not be the Cosmic Cube, but its a fact that it is the same cube in Captain America! Have you even seen the films? I know I have! They're the same, and it should be mentioned. nd I'm not saying they're stupid, but I didn't know that they were the same because of the time gap between seein the movies. I only know for sure now because I re-watched the tagclip! I was expecting to find it on Wiki, but people like you don't want "external commentary." Bah!

It isn't a fact, its an assumption. One that still doesn't belong in this article. It only appears in Thor at all in a post-credits scene that was filmed after the rest of the movie was completed, its an advert for the Avengers and has nothing to do with this film or this article. The only place it will ever belong is in the Avengers article and that will still require actual sources to back it up. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:42, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm no talking about the Avengers, I'm talking about Captain America! But I think we can compromise. Would it be acceptable to put it on the Marvel Cinematic Universe (all of the Avengers films) page, and I will mention it is only an assumption, though it's dead obvious they're the same. I mean, I won't say the dead obvious part, but the assumption part. And its a legitimate part of the movie, not an advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.73.96 (talk) 23:47, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

After ddoing some research, I found out that it is the Cosmic Cube, and it is the one in Capatin America. --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.27.17 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 22 January 2012

Not only is Darkwarriorblake correct, but this sort of WP:NOR debate has been occurring ever since at least the first Iron Man movie. It is the consensus of both Misplaced Pages and of WikiProject Comics that the plot of a given movie contain only that which is manifestly and concretely stated in that given movie. Anything else is speculation and personal knowledge. If you want to open a formal RfC on the issue, you're entitled to. Otherwise, it is getting to be disruptive forcing other editors to continue responding to what is a closed issue. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:25, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

If your going to be that picky on stupid little technicalities then I just don't care anymore. I was just trying to contribute simple logic (something you apparently lack) to try to add information to Wiki. Oh well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.27.17 (talk) 03:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Your good intentions are indeed appreciated. Your insulting and uncivil language is not, and has no place in Misplaced Pages. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, let me rephrase what I said: I was trying to add information that was backed up with logic, and I do not appreciate your use of technicalities to strike it down. Better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.27.17 (talk) 20:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Logical or not, original research is disallowed on Misplaced Pages for solid and sound reasons. It's one of the core principles of Misplaced Pages, so I wouldn't call it "a technicality." --Tenebrae (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2012 (UTC)