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BLPN on Alaska political corruption probe

Thanks for the advice. I've requested temporary page protection and will proceed with further steps. Activist (talk) 22:07, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for all your considerable help with this page. You have substantially more experience with Misplaced Pages than I do. Was the reason you removed the Bothelo and Metcalf quotes because they were excessive, or for some other reason? I thought they contributed to an understanding of the process of the probe that is rather difficult to follow, in no small part because it was conducted in secrecy for years and has never been fully explained. Bothelo was the AG in both Republican and Democratic administrations, and had a very good reputation for being above partisan politics. Metcalf was a former Republican legislator who formed his own short lived party, the Republican Moderate party, I believe, and was seen as a reformer. His party was responsible for the election defeat of one of the mysteriously unindicted players in the probe, Jerry Ward, though the victor, Senator John Torgerson quickly changed his registration to Republican after his election. Activist (talk) 07:33, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I did not think that the Bothelo and Metcalf quotes belonged in the lead, which is only a summary of the main body and should avoid redundant citations used in the main body (see WP:LEADCITE). Feel free to put them in the history section and summarize or also use them in the lead. However, there is no time frame listed for the Metcalfe quote and it includes an "according to" and "said", where you probably only need one (see WP:SAY). I didn't see a Bothelo quote. In general, feel free to revise the article. My main concern was the BLP issues and some of my other edits were more as an editor than admin removing BLP issues. -- Jreferee (talk) 11:11, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I deleted the material that was a subject of contention, violation of COI and RSS guidelines. I'll see if I can find the sources for the Metcalf and Bothelo references. Thanks for your interest and assistance with this page Activist (talk) 08:40, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

User:Anisa moghaddam

My inclination would be to wait a couple more days and see if she returns to edit and responds to the concerns on her talk page.

If she doesnt return, we can probably just stub the user page to something short and appropriately user page-ish.

If she does return and responds positively and appropriately to her talk page, then we dont need to do anything.

If she returns and does not respond appropriately, then we can take the user page to Misc for deletion.

But i dont think we need to move it to article space and AfD it, at least not yet.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Clarification request: Ayn Rand

The clarification request concerning you has been archived, with no action taken: For the Arbitration Committee, Rschen7754 05:34, 21 October 2013 (UTC)


Art Plural Gallery

Hi Jreferee, thanks for informing me about the gallery's page. Are there anything you would like me to take note of? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorneliaHTang (talk • contribs) 08:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

The post on your talk page provides information that you may want to take note of. -- Jreferee (talk) 12:46, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

ANI, Discrimination

I responded to your message on ANI. Thank you 124.149.70.154 (talk) 15:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Three things

I have left a further reply for you at my talk page. Also, my experience has always been that editors have no ownership of their non-neutral talk page headings, in contrast to their comments under those headings, and I think it's generally been agreed in the past that article talk page headings contrary to policy can be changed by anyone. I don't see them often, but if I do see any further non-neutral article talk page heading, then I intend to render it neutral with or without permission from the heading's author. Okay?Anythingyouwant (talk) 20:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 October 2013

Your proposal is sound... Oct 27, 2013

Hi Jreferee, your proposal is sound... I added a subbullet suggesting why don't we just add this draft attempt User:WashD101/sandbox to a subsection of American University... and redirect Roger W. Jones Award for Executive Leadership to there? Thanks for all your help... WashD101 (talk) 21:25, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2013 November 1#Futz!

You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2013 November 1#Futz!. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 13:23, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

The Signpost: 30 October 2013

Challenge of decision to delete article, Peter Pakeman

I've been away and unable to participate in discussions. How do I go about challenging the decision? Xave2000 (talk) 16:00, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Xave2000 - Discuss the matter with Mark Arsten (who deleted the page/closed the discussion) first. If that does not work, post a request at WP:DRV using one of the WP:DRVPURPOSE as a reason for your deletion review request. The usual DRV reasons are 1. the closer of a deletion discussion interpreted the consensus incorrectly or 2. significant new information has come to light since a deletion that would justify recreating the deleted page. -- Jreferee (talk) 16:15, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank youXave2000 (talk) 15:14, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Kudos User:Jreferee for an AMAZING brokering of a creative solution to the List of Roger W. Jones Award for Executive Leadership recipients discussion. Impressive table, formatting and references! WashD101 (talk) 02:41, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the Barnstar. The Jones award is an impressive one. They seem to be able reach into the body of federal workers and spot the rising stars. -- Jreferee (talk) 03:07, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Premature close of RfC at Ten Lost Tribes

Are you an admin? I would guess not, because then you would know that an RfC should stay open for 30 days Misplaced Pages:Rfc#Ending_RfCs. I suggest you re-open it, pronto presto, because you are causing me to spend time that would otherwise be used more productively, and should I have to open a discussion on this at AN/I, that would be more waste of time as the policy is clear.--Ubikwit見学/迷惑 12:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Lost tribes RfC

I'm not happy with closing an RfC this early, especially at the request of the person who initiated it. It's probably going to go that way, but this isn't a BLP so there's no rush. Dougweller (talk) 12:51, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I closed it based on Bahooka's request at WP:ANRFC and reopened per your reasoning above. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:40, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much for doing this. Dougweller (talk) 14:44, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm fine with keeping the RfC open for the full 30-day default period, but I did want to explain my reasoning so there won't be any concerns about good faith. I tried to read the RfC page very carefully to make sure I did it correctly. Regarding closure, it states that "The default duration of an RfC is 30 days, because the RFC bot automatically delists RfCs after this time. Editors may choose to end them earlier or extend them longer. Deciding how long to leave an RfC open depends on how much interest there is in the issue and whether editors are continuing to comment." (emphasis added) I knew the default period had not ended, but interest in making comments had waned (a week had passed since the last one) and the consensus seemed clear. That was my rationale, but we can revisit on 11/25. Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 15:39, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

About Edit War.

a/c to HumanRightsWatch link Neda Agha khan was struck in traffic jam and she was several kilometers away from protests and there were no Basij forces when she was killed. But a/c to FoxNews & CNN link she was going to protests and she was killed by Basij. Thats why I was asking that HumanRightsWatch report is more authentic than FoxNews or not. SpidErxD (talk) 10:32, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:The Banner/Workpage28

Four editors supported deletion and four (including the editor who created the page) opposed. All provided valid rationales, and I can't see consensus that it "advertises/promotes a business" - those opposing emphasised it's relevance to Misplaced Pages, rather than to a business. Peter James (talk) 20:22, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

The stronger argument was that the user subpage advertises/promotes a business. Those opposing deletion of the page generally did not challenge that position directly or challenge it with arguments that were strong enough. -- Jreferee (talk) 07:43, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
The argument was that it was promotional - of the editor, not of a business. That wasn't challenged but editors opposed deletion because of its relevance to Misplaced Pages; the same arguments could also be used in discussion a page that lists an editor's achievements or barnstars, or of many pages related to WP:GLAM. The only mention of business is by an editor who opposed deletion and doesn't apply to the current status of the page. Peter James (talk) 18:02, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 06 November 2013

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Incomplete DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Eric Estorick at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 05:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Reward_board#As_we_are_going_to_keep_this.2C_do_we_need_to_tighten_the_criteria_a_bit.3F

Given it's been kept at MfD, I've reposted a proposal to tighten it. See header. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:48, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2013 November 11#Futz!

You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2013 November 11#Futz!. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 18:13, 11 November 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

COI

Regarding your message on Conflict of Interest, I will keep that in mind, and will restrict from editing. Thank you! Yoonchip (talk) 05:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Eric Estorick

Updated DYK queryOn 15 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Eric Estorick, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that in 1964, art dealer Eric Estorick recovered 1,564 Jewish Torah scrolls which had been confiscated by the Nazi authorities following the genocide of the Czechoslovak Jews? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eric Estorick. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 November 2013

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my help desk question earlier today. MFM14 (talk) 11:30, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the Original Barnstar! -- Jreferee (talk) 13:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Help with my article

Thank you Jreferee for all your help with my article, its very much appreciated as I am new and learning the site, I will get exact dod date. Re your other suggestion I can't at the moment find a reference to link the two artists, just links to paintings. (Enuejel (talk) 13:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC))

You're welcome. Biographies are a good place to start with learning how to write Misplaced Pages articles. As for help in finding references, many librarians and researchers hang out at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Humanities and they usually can help. -- Jreferee (talk) 15:27, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

New rule proposal

Can you please reply at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#New_rule_proposal.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:52, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Requesting second round of feedback

Dear Jreferee, thank you for your comments and feedback about my first contribution to wikipedia. It is extremely helpful as I have been putting a LOT of time in to it. I have since made edits to refine the article and incorporate all the feedback. I am also excited that a few others have helped me edit the page. I am quite hooked to Misplaced Pages and hope to author/contribute more within my expertise in nutrition education. ! Would you please be able to take a second look to advise me about how I may improve further? https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bhargav_Sri_Prakash

Thank you! (Chippadum (talk) 15:25, 19 November 2013 (UTC))

Overturn of deletion decision for John Schlossberg

Can you please explain why the deletion decision for John Schlossberg was overturned? If possible, please include plain language for those of us who may be unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages lingo. Thank you. --Crunch (talk) 20:34, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

The administrator who closed Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/John Schlossberg (2nd nomination) as delete, later stated at the deletion review of the Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/John Schlossberg (2nd nomination) close that his close was a misinterpretation of consensus. -- Jreferee (talk) 12:08, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Silver City Daily Press

Updated DYK queryOn 22 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Silver City Daily Press, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Silver City Daily Press newspaper in Silver City, New Mexico, has been owned by the Ely family since 1934? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Silver City Daily Press. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 18:09, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

User:Hkettani again

Hi Jreferee. After six weeks, the user is back again, replacing vast swaths of content with material sourced to himself and containing multiple errors of grammar, punctuation, style, etc. I have no wish to insert myself into the situation again and be accused of god knows what, and I actually have no firm opinion on the proprieties in this case (I've seen no CV links this time), although another user—and a perceptive one at that—has questioned it. I do think there may be some moderate WP:COMPETENCE issues. In any event, I'm planning to stay well out of it this time, but since you did some helpful intervention at COIN and on the user's talk page last month, I wanted you to be aware. Rivertorch (talk) 06:05, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I've just posted a response to Hkettani's reply to my earlier post (see ), but I see that meanwhile Hkettani has restored the material. Hkettani's CV (which he had been plastering over articles earlier) makes clear that his expertise is in computer science - and that there is no reason to see his self-published book on The World Muslim Population... as WP:RS, even if we were to settle the obvious WP:COI issues. It clearly cannot be cited, and something clearly needs to be done. I would suggest that maybe someone should revert Hkettani one last time, and then take it to WP:ANI if he doesn't get the message. Since I don't want to get involved in an edit war, I'd prefer not to have to revert the material again myself. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Given Hkettani's latest reply on his talk page, I can see no option but to raise this at WP:ANI - I'll leave it until later though, as I should have gone to bed hours ago. If someone else wishes to deal with it though, that will be fine by me. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:25, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
The book is not self-published per WP definition of Self-publishing (and all definitions I know!) So try another one, or better, make the article better as volunteer editors. I have posted this to Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents Please continue the discussion there to resolve the problem: I am trying to contribute to history and size of population of Muslims in articles such as Islam in Asia. I have several peer-reviewed articles in scientific conference proceedings and journals and a recent 600 page book . So I added some results in Islam in Asia and other continent and cited by book. Interestingly, some editors such as AndyTheGrump, Jreferee and Dolescum keep reverting my contribution (basically deleting all of it and the source). They keep citing COI or self-publishing, none of which applies here. When I refute their allegations they come up with another excuse and keep threatening of blocking my account. Such "referees" or "editors" may have other motives that they are not disclosing. The job of an editor or contributor is to make the article better, not deleting all sources and information. Better means: checking facts, better reference, etc. Hkettani (talk) 17:01, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Al (Allen) Schwartz

Hi, Jreferee! At the discussion Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Al (Allen) Schwartz, you made an excellent suggestion about how the article titles for people named Al Schwartz should be redone. That discussion has now been closed. Would you be willing to implement your title change suggestions at this point? I would do it, but I think some of the changes will require admin tools and I'm not an admin. Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 17:12, 23 November 2013 (UTC)