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POV dispute

This article is about the history of a modern thriving Kypchak ethnic group which constitutes a major portion of Kazakhstan's Middle Juz. It is as wrong to present the nation as a Mongol tribe because this is how it can be interpreted from Mongolian Historical sources as it would be to present the Mongols as a Chinese nation as they can be presented from Chinese historical sources. This article needs to be re-written to reflect the correct language and modern condition of the Hingir and remove all Mongol Bias. Hongirid (talk) 06:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hongirad → Qongirat – Since this article is about a brief but illustrious period in the history of the Qongirat ethnic division of the Kazakh nation it seems it would be best to rename the article with a move. Hongirid (talk) 19:28, 30 December 2013 (UTC) Are there any further suggestions to include in this proposal? Hongirid (talk) 17:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

My advice is to use the Misplaced Pages:Requested moves method. That way you have a chance to provide some evidence for your contention.--Toddy1 (talk) 18:43, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

This discussion has already taken place thank you.Hongirid (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Kipchak vs Mongol

Dear Toddy1 you brought a request to my talk page that you wanted to discuss whether this Kazakh ethnic group are Kipchak or Mongol. I recommend you read something about the Kazakh people (Middle Juz) you will see that Kazakhs are Kipchaks not Mongols. Hongirid (talk) 18:54, 30 December 2013 (UTC) p.s. Toddy1, Why did you use a different username (User:Sczc) when you edited the article instead of the same one you used on my talk page? Hongirid (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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