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I'm not about to read every last word of this dispute, but my first impression is that Zer0Fault being able to make peace with everyone but Mr. Tibbs reflects badly on Mr. Tibbs. This by no means is a license to Zer0Fault for more incivility and failure to assume good faith, however. Ideogram 12:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- The complaint stands, the evidence is there. Añoranza 12:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- So what exactly do you see as a useful means of mediating this situation? What would bring this to a close for you? --zero faults 12:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Just stop all those obstructive actions you are known to engage in from the past: revert warring, refusal to accept consensus, POV, endless innuendo, incivility, refusal to discuss issues on your talk page. Añoranza 13:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- You seem to not be looking for a middle ground, instead some sort of admittance of guilt in some manner. I offer a compromise, how about you and Mr. Tibbs agree to a (1) revert rule, self imposed. I will only revert an article that either of you have edited once maximum, and the two of you collectively onl y have (1) revert against one of my edits? I think that will solve revert warring. As for uncivil behaviour, how about we only reply to eachothers comments with sources? This would stop innuendo and also stop uncivil comments as all comments would then be directly related to the facts of the discussion. As for POV I do not think we will ever reach amid point as we both think eachother is doing it. As for concensus I make this offer. I will abide by Straw Poll results when they are more then 80% in opposition of me, and the polls are done according to the guidlines which means the questions have to be arrived at by a real concensus, meaning both sides have to agree the questions are appropriate. Fair enough? Did I miss anything? --zero faults 13:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is ridiculous. You want to sum up the reverts of others in order to be able to spread your POV? Just stop reverting, if you argue well on the talk pages others will edit the way you favour. You have to resist reverting if you are in a minority, not only if there is an 80% majority against you. You missed the point of incivility, endless innuendo, and refusal to discuss issues on your talk page. Añoranza 14:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- You seem to not be looking for a middle ground, instead some sort of admittance of guilt in some manner. I offer a compromise, how about you and Mr. Tibbs agree to a (1) revert rule, self imposed. I will only revert an article that either of you have edited once maximum, and the two of you collectively onl y have (1) revert against one of my edits? I think that will solve revert warring. As for uncivil behaviour, how about we only reply to eachothers comments with sources? This would stop innuendo and also stop uncivil comments as all comments would then be directly related to the facts of the discussion. As for POV I do not think we will ever reach amid point as we both think eachother is doing it. As for concensus I make this offer. I will abide by Straw Poll results when they are more then 80% in opposition of me, and the polls are done according to the guidlines which means the questions have to be arrived at by a real concensus, meaning both sides have to agree the questions are appropriate. Fair enough? Did I miss anything? --zero faults 13:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Just stop all those obstructive actions you are known to engage in from the past: revert warring, refusal to accept consensus, POV, endless innuendo, incivility, refusal to discuss issues on your talk page. Añoranza 13:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- So what exactly do you see as a useful means of mediating this situation? What would bring this to a close for you? --zero faults 12:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Just looking at this page (I'm NOT going to rehash old evidence) I see Zer0fault asking you to offer a compromise. Your response is going to be my first impression of you. Ideogram 12:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I think Zer0fault's offer is a good one. I'm not saying you have to accept it, but the least you could do is make a counter-offer. Ideogram 13:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)