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28 January 2014
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Alexyflemming (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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- Summary
All socks try to find evidence of increased acceptance of Northern Cyprus in the areas of UN declarations, Sports, (especially Billiards and Tae Kwon Do), and university education. They also have a habit of using walls of text and write loud remarks on talkpages. They also use original research and synthesis to advance their POV. I know this is stale for CU but I submit the following evidence based on behavioural grounds.
- Comparative analysis
- Topic:
- Sports (Billiards, Taekwon do and other)
- Alexyflemming: (NC is a member of Int'l Fed. of Associated Wrestling Styles (FILA), Global Taekwon-do Fed., Fed.Int'l FootballTennis Association, European Cyclists' Fed, European Billiard Fed, Union Mondial de Billard, etc.)]
- Blocked sock Dianapeaces: (→Sports: North Cyprus is a member of World Pool-Billard Association. WPA Official site linked.)
- Alexyflemming: (EPBF MEMBERS)
- Blocked sock A3000B: (→Sports: National teams of Cyprus and North Cyprus matched in an international sport tournament for the first time in Pool Billiard 2010 of European Championships for National Teams.) see also: Alexyflemming:(→Edit request: Northern Cyprus and Cyprus are being represented as two different countries in International Hotel and Restaurant Association (IHRA)). Notice emphasis on "proving" TRNC and Cyprus are two separate countries using minor events.
- Tae Kwon Do
- Alexyflemming: (→Defacto selfdeclared 2: The address of the headquarter of "Eurasia Taekwondo Federations Union". (Located in Kyrenia, Northern Cyprus))
- Alexyflemming: (NC is a member of Int'l Fed. of Associated Wrestling Styles (FILA), Global Taekwon-do Fed., Fed.Int'l FootballTennis Association, European Cyclists' Fed, European Billiard Fed, Union Mondial de Billard, etc.)
- A3000B: (→Sports: Taekwon-do Federation of North Cyprus is a member of Global Taekwon-do Federation: http://www.gtftaekwondo.com)
- A3000B: (North Cyprus is a member of Global Taekwon-do Federation (GTF): http://web.mac.com/gtftaekwondo/GTF/Members.html)
- The Kosovo declaration
- Alexyflemming: (→History: International Court of Justice is also an organization of UN and decided in 2010 that "International law contains no prohibition on declarations of independence".)
- Alexyflemming: (United Nations' International Court of Justice (2010): "International law contains no prohibition on declarations of independence".)
- Blocked sock Cratosian: (→History: Reference is given. The president of the International Court of Justice, Hisashi Owada: "International law contains no prohibition on declarationS of independence")
- Cratosian: (→History: 22 July 2010, United Nations' International Court of Justice:"International law contains NO PROHIBITION ON DECLARATIONS OF INDEPENDENCE".)
- Freedom House
- Alexyflemming: (→Democratic freedom: Freedom House (Freedom in the World 2014 Report): Northern Cyprus is "free" in political rights and civil liberties.)
- Blocked sock Schematicca: (→Human rights: Freedom House's Freedom in the World 2011: Both of the countries Cyprus and North Cyprus are free; 2007-2011 period the freedom in North Cyprus increased whereas decreased in Cyprus)
- Education in Northern Cyprus
- Alexyflemming: ("NC has an increasing international acception": 63,000 univ. studs from 108 countries in Northern Cyprus.)
- Cratosian: (→Education: North Cyprus's Girne American University Canterbury campus in United Kingdom was accredited by the British Accreditation Council in 2010. Reference in the BAC official site is given.)
- Loud all capitals in discussions
Including bombardment with walls of text:
- Alexyflemming: (→Edit request: I agree with E4024. The introductory text in first paragraph is definitely wrong.)
- A3000B: (LEVELS OF ECONOMIC, POLITICAL AND MILITARY DEPENDENCIES OF NORTH CYPRUS TO TURKEY IS GIVEN IN THE RELATED HEADINGS (economy, politics, military) IN THE ARTICLE)
- Disruption on the talkpage of Northern Cyprus
Revives a discussion from 19 January 2013 from last year involving ARBMAC blocked editor E4024 and uses him in his list of supporters to advance his synthesis, while at the same time asking that the time stamps and signatures of the editors commenting be removed: .
This is for starters. Additional diffs on request. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC) Δρ.Κ. 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
To Summary part:
Since the lack of recognition of Northern Cyprus restricts it in many sport branches, its accepted sport branches (rather a little number) seems to being spotted is normal.
"walls of text": Every serious wiki-user supports its arguements with references and strong evidences. This may take little long compared with instant and non-supported info and data.
"loud remarks on talkpages": The simplest thing to differentiate a text is capitalize it. Though that, there are many edits that I used boldface and italics. See my edits since 20 February 2010.
"usage of original research and synthesis to advance their POV":
I refer the articles that citing other articles as references. If one clearly see my edits since 20.02.2010, this can be seen clearly. Also, I don't have any intention to advance my edits.
Notice that even when many wiki users share my thoughts in Talk pages, I still wait other wiki-users to share the same things, or even further contribute with different thoughts: Here is just one proof:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=592682665&oldid=592537514
Edit summary of the above edit: "I am listing the supporters of the proposal. Let people that support and disagree the proposal participate the poll with the reasoning of their vote."
As is clearly seen, I have no aim to promote my ideas. I strongly try to collect counter ideas as well!
I will reply the other claims as well. Please wait. Till that, please observe the following.
1. Background: I am a very old Wiki-user. My first edit: 20 February 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=World_Pool-Billiard_Association&oldid=345174463
2. I do not need to copy myself for gaining an extra advantage or something else in Misplaced Pages. Just the opposite, I try to convince the other Wiki-users in Talk Pages of Misplaced Pages articles. Look:
I am accused to enter an edit war at 21.01.2014 19.04:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Alexyflemming&diff=prev&oldid=591752969
See the accused edit war in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Northern_Cyprus&action=history
Though that we (I and some other wiki user) talked many things and reached consensus in the Talk page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=592158491&oldid=592157321
And, I did not make any edit about the thing discussed as is seen from 21.01.2014 17.00.
That is to say, the claimed edit war never happened. Observe even after we reached the consensus in the talk page, I did not process the consensus to the article page since I want many wiki-users to share the consensus we reached.
3. Edit merits are all different:
Statistically:
Items...Users Alexyflemming(me) Justice_Forever Combined
Unique pages: 37 11 2
Edit count: 91 18 29(me)/3(jf)
Normal edit time: 28.0101 22.684
Please wait while I am preparing the replies of other claims. There are so many accusations!
Education in Northern Cyprus: See the huge difference about the subject of claimed edits; one is "no. of univ. students in a country", and the other is "accreditation of one of the universities in that country". It is a fact that every edit in an article advances that article. Hence, contributions by adding the recent developments and news about the education of one country should not be confused with its promotion, especially from the perspective of "increased acceptance of a country". Because, when viewed in that way, not only me, but also evey wiki user contributing that page by editing the current developments can be regarded as socpuppettry. This is valid not also for me, for that issue, but also for other wiki users and for other wiki articles as well. I request wiki admins especially notice this difference. Could we regard all the contributors to an issue (an ordinary wiki article) all sockpuppettry?
Freedom House case: As seen clearly, I am updating a statistics and data in Wiki article for the year 2014. Another wiki user can update for the year 2015, etc. The updaters of a statistics or data in a wiki article are clearly not sockpuppeters of each other. I kindly request the moderators of Misplaced Pages to pay attention to this difference. Obsolete and not-up-to-date statistics and data in Misplaced Pages must be made. The coincidence of the edits in that respect should not be regarded as puppet. Look when one read a wiki article, one may aware the oldness of the info, and react it. There are many wiki articles with little info, hence, the subjects of edits of may coincide in many case.
Abuses of others: I cooperate with Misplaced Pages authorities whenever I see an abuse. This is valid, even well before this sockpupettrry
claim, Look: I desired help ( https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Abuse_response&diff=592554312&oldid=580508095 ) in 26.01.2014 for the disastrous edits of others:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Trikomo,_Cyprus&diff=592764797&oldid=592690564
I do not observe any cooperation of the justice forever with Misplaced Pages. Alexyflemming (talk) 11:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
One last note. My wiki username is not puppet, it is my name and surname. Do not hesitate to contact with me via alexyflemming at gmail dot com Alexyflemming (talk) 10:14, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Alexyflemming has said on my talk page, that just need some more time to organise their defence and put it on this page. Would patrolling admins please give him some time to reply to the claims above. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:40, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
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