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Kia ora, "Palmerstonian"! Been active for at least two weeks and nobody has put any criticisms on your talk page!!

Well, I don't want to be the first, so I'll just say I have enjoyed a number of refreshment stops and done a bit of land surveying in Palmerston, New Zealand. My daughter, Annabel, is the current "voice" of Arena Manawatu; but maybe you don't listen to commercial radio.

Impressive list of proposed projects you have, and remarkable list of achievements in such a short time! Doubtless our paths will cross (or at least meet in a friendly way) from time to time.

Robin Patterson 00:51, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Manawatu articles

Hi Ziggurat (hm... now there's a word I haven't heard since Anthro 101!)

I see you're in (and interested in) the Manawatu area. I've finally got to there in my obsessive article writing about NZ geography. You might like to have a look at some of the articles in Category: Manawatu-Wanganui, make sure I haven't done anything stupid (you might even want to improve on some of them!). The following in particular might be worth a look: Marton, New Zealand and Ashhurst.

I hope to tackle the main Palmerston North article in the next day or two, and possibly also do ones on the Manawatu plains, Manawatu river, and Shannon, NZ. ] 07:45, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Frandlebaker

Remember: double curly brackets, not single. (c;
Eric Herboso 21:29, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article HMS Orpheus, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Welcome to the club

You're welcome, and I'm giving you this cake in celebration of your user page being broken in by vandals.

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Snap-dragon (game), which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Flapdragon (snapdragon) the game

Thanks for letting me know about the new page. You shame me! For ages I had been vaguely intending to write a page on the subject but never got round to it. However, yours is more detailed and thoroughly researched than anything I would have come up with, and so I don't have a lot to add. I just have one or two minor quibbles, which it seems more appropriate to address on the Talk page. Meanwhile congratulations on a fine article. Flapdragon 01:27, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

awesome article, really detailed and interesting. I want to play it! The perfect DYK. -DDerby-(talk) 20:12, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Snapdragon

Hi. Please accept my apologies on the Snapdragon article. I would have thought that it would be played throughout the United Kingdom. Thanks, —Kilo-Lima 12:38, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Burping

I reverted for the simple reason that the methods offered did not work and were unsourced. I should have used the edit summary better. Also, there is already a section on "burped speech" in patients with a laryngectomy. I've heard people do it; they are understandable but it sounds bizarre. JFW | T@lk 21:17, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

farts v flatulence

please vote on fart vs flatulence on the flatulence talk page. especially if you call 'em farts. -Justforasecond 06:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article North Pacific Gyre, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Asian Flu

Out of curiosity, why did you conflate/remove the second paragraph from Asian Flu? The resulting revision seems to be rather difficult to read and somewhat ungrammatical in comparison, and while the parenthetical comments on the HxNx notation are also in the Avian influenza article I don't think it's redundant to include them here. Ziggurat 22:19, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I did it while editing another article. I felt it justified. PLEASE feel free to alter/correct/whatever as you see fit. Really!

In other words: I believe my alterations helped. PLEASE make alterations YOU feel help (including reverting me). I have no doubt we both want what is best.

I will not revert Asian Flu. I don't do revert wars. And I don't fight over how something is said. Sourcing I care about. Cheers, take care, g'day. WAS 4.250 00:57, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

categories on user talk page?

thanks for the notice but i have never added or edited categories, and dont know how, although quite able to learn. I have noticed lots of categories getting added though, and i think by bots. I would ask an admin to do such stuff, its of little direct concern to me, interesting how it might be interpreted i guess, but evrything is so transient in this space, its hard to learn an appropriate attitude and response in a relatively short time. if they are on the user page, then taht could be understandable, I took a copy of aurora (astronomy) when it was being ripped apart and messed with.. by people who claimed to know better than me.. so maybe thats it, but i'm sure it will get cleaned up with th eslash and burn here in the sandpits of wiki.. you can probaly tell i'm less than pleased with a suppossed democracy that doesnt have proportional representation. it wont make much difference to the world what i do or dont do here. I am always honest and open, thats all that counts to me. btw did you look at www.spaceweather.com today? good reason to be proud to be a kiwi astronomer, and GIVE to the world, what they can not get for themselves. cheers.. moza.. moza 12:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

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It could be argued that if Jimbo is a not-negotiable policy setter, then his behaviour is implicity the policy, thats why he said he wished he had never edited his ownsite, but in fact he can AFFORD an army of paid editors to do it for him, so the whole thing is a bit stupid, and thats a micrcosm of humanity.moza 00:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

So its a discussion without proportional representation, that could only come from promotion of the issues to the users that are likely to be interested, but that process has been subverted; there was nil discussion prior to sending to afd/vfd otherwise the article could have been quietly deleted by an admin, a process i was privately discussing with other users at the time. thats my point about knee jerks, and for the record, vanity in itself is not a reason for deletion, and i am fairly notable for a number of reasons not yet brought up, but I actually want that page deleted.. its a wierd world, and in the meantime its not really any big deal is it. moza 00:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

It is so simple to use fake ip and spoofing, with multi user names, that its a wonder we dont have more vandalism and objectionable stuff. I am quite pleaed to see many vandalisms quickly reverted on articles that i watch, but i have to wonder how long that can be sustained for. I am happy that at least ONE user chooses to discuss issues with me, here, and I thank you for that.moza 00:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your comments on my userpage, from here in freezing Scotland! Nach0king 00:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

My scratch page

Good point, fixed. Thanks -- Securiger 06:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Popcorn bag

Nice edit. You f'n rock. youngamerican (talk) 01:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

It was the only barnstar that I could find that even remotely matched how you made a crappy, pointless article into a good article that no one would ever expect. youngamerican (talk) 18:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Verifying Stanley Random Chess

Greetings, and thanks for posting on the subject of the deletion of Stanley Random Chess. I'm a little perplexed about your assertion that "the references for this article are all 1. by the same person", particularly when the article cites at least three other sources outside the geocities site:

• http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/admag/src.htm (Tim Krabbe, chess analyst)
• http://www.chessvariants.org/link2.dir/srchess.html (Tony Quintanilla, chessvariants.org editor)
• http://www.schemingmind.com/variants.aspx (Austin Lockwood, webmaster)

All three can be contacted for the purposes of external verification. Isn't this inconsistent with your suggestion that there is a single source, and that the article is "unverifiable"? Thanks for your help! Gregorytopov 19:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply and information. I'm starting to get a feel for how Misplaced Pages works - it's all rather impressive, in how a consensus is used to determine the content, and how there is constant change and interaction. A marvellous tool! Personally I'm not as yet convinced about insufficient verification - although it's true that I have authored several articles on the subject, I'm not the only source, although others aren't the easiest to find. So I can appreciate that people doing some digging will stumble across more of my articles, and might mistakenly conclude that everything written about Stanley Random Chess is the handiwork of a single raving madman, and that the game doesn't exist except in my imagination - neither of which is the case, although the thought is somewhat amusing! Anyone who takes the time to poke around on schemingmind.com will find verification there, but I think that site requires registration to view many of the pages, so I can understand that most people probably don't take the trouble to investigate it properly. But I'll have to let the consensus rule on the inclusion of Stanley Random Chess, even if others mistakenly conclude it is a complete hoax. On a related note, where can I find Misplaced Pages's policies on notability? Thanks again for your help and courtesy. Gregorytopov 19:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Gregorytopov

Endor Holocaust

I am having trouble listing the third nomination of the AfD page. I think i messed up on step three, where it says this (If you used template {{subst:afdx}} instead of {{subst:afd1}}, replace "PageName" with the name of the page plus a note like "(second nomination)" for a second nomination, etc.). ugh --Geedubber 08:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC) ps i messed up while writing this comment, so I might have accidently listed your talk page for deletion or something

Magnetosphere categories comment

You mailed me a comment on categories used in a scratch version of "Magnetosphere" on my user page. I don't know enough about Misplaced Pages, and have decided for various reason to spend less time on it.

    So I erased that whole page. I anyway have substituted a new page on this topic--actually, 4 linked pages.

    Some busybodies have tinkered with that submission since then, so I cannot vouch for it. If you want to know about the magnetosphere, go to my pages (linked there)--I stand behind those, and will answer any serious comments or questions.

David P. Stern Greenbelt, Maryland, USA

Decategorised sandbox articles

Hi Ziggurat. I've decategorised the requested articles. Thanks for the suggestion. MP (talk) 09:53, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello Ziggurat - I've removed the categories from my userspace article-in-progress. Thanks for letting me know. Greg 05:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Liam Gallagher's Extra Toes

You said on my page: Hi, I noticed that some time back you added a reference to Liam Gallagher on List of polydactyl people - could you point me to a source on this? I'm having trouble referencing it. Cheers, Ziggurat 01:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

This was originally reported (and confirmed via photograph - he was in sandals, as I recall) in a British newspaper or magazine in 2001. It is reported here:

Parmesan 21:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

List of shock sites nominated for deletion for a fourth time

The article List of shock sites has been nominatied for deletion again. I noticed that during its past nominations for deletion you voted to have the article deleted. If you have time, please support me in my attempt to have this article deleted by casting your vote in favour of deletion. Thank you. - Conrad Devonshire 07:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Cognitive style: Many thanks

Hi, Zigugurat, Many thanks for attending to my article on Cognitive Style. By the way, I live in Whangarei and am a doctoral student at AUT. Are you associated with Massey University, perhaps? Michael J. Mullany 06:40, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism by 24.165.120.221

If you want to put a warning level 4 for Love that you reverted, then the vandalism of Exxon Valdez oil spill (or vice versa) could qualify for instituting a block, unless you think that's too rough. The IP vandalized Love-shyness again after you reverted, which I reverted. Шизомби 02:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Reverts

There's no established policy on keeping collections of trivia that are either irrelevent or only of tangential importance to a topic. If you can show me a policy that supports trivia collections, I'd be happy to comply. Otherwise, Misplaced Pages allows me to edit mercilessly as I see fit, whether others consider it impolite or not. Brian G. Crawford 23:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

You're being extremely patronizing, quoting policies like that which miss the mark on the problem of trivia. Accusing me of incivility for making a good faith edit which I didn't even revert after you reverted makes you come across as a paranoid crank. You're not even trying to understand my position, and you're not trying to explain yourself to me. I suspect you're one of those self-appointed "recent changes patrollers" who are just looking for an excuse to call someone a vandal. For a guy who got his way in the end, you're doing a hell of a lot of whining. If you want to be a cop and tell people what to do, police departments everywhere are hiring. Brian G. Crawford 23:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

What the hell do you keep bugging me for? I don't know what more you want from me. Did I revert you? No! Did you get your way? Yes! If you think I insulted you, you need to get a thicker skin. Your problem with what I did comes down to personal preference, nothing more, so quit pretending that there's some kind of so-called "consensus" out there that contradicts what I did. I've read Misplaced Pages:Trivia, and the related discussion. I don't understand this. Are you looking for a fight? Do you want to make enemies? Your behavior baffles me. Go back on patrol and leave me alone. Brian G. Crawford 00:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

You're doing nothing but pissing me off. I'll be kind and keep my comments to myself this time. Please, pretty please, go away and pretend you never heard of me. Brian G. Crawford 00:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Auckland meetup

Just to let you know that a meetup is planned in Auckland for the 25th of June (see Misplaced Pages:Meetup/Auckland for more details), and that you are cordially invited. GeorgeStepanek\ 00:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Userspace categories fixed

Thanks for letting me know about my draft article's categories. The problem's been fixed. -Anirvan 06:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice

Thanks for the advice on my RfA. Sorry, as it was stressful and I replied quickly, I made a few mistakes. I hope you will support me. — ßottesiηi 23:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

NZ Mudsnails

You did a nice job on your article in just a day. Interesting that we both chose the same picture for the infobox. -- Avenue 02:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Re Categories on sandbox

Hi Zig! thanks for the note. Done. -- Szvest 10:58, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Categories & subcategories

On my talkpage, you said, "Additionally, when a parent category has been subdivided, articles don't have to appear in the parent cat, only the subcat." Is there a place where this wikipedia policy is explicitly stated? It seems to me that in some (not all) cases it might make sense to put pages both in a parent category and in a subcategory, so I'd like to see what the exact policy is if that's possible. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, though - I really wasn't sure what to do. Esn 23:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

NZ frogs

Thanks for the template, it looks as if it is better than most copyrights, so I will use it. --liquidGhoul 02:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Category

Thanks for the heads up about the category on my sub-page. I guess someone else took care of it for me. David Bergan 02:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

CatAZ

A reply back on my talk page Ian Cairns 23:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:88.111.117.228

Thanks for the explanation — ßottesiηi 01:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey D----!

No, I don't know of any regular Smarchers here, although Tad was complaining about not being listed on WP under his high school alma mater Palo Alto High School. We fixed it for him. You'd probably have better luck just asking at Smarch. I've been around here about as long as you (late 2004) and haven't noticed anyone else. Then again, I didn't look too hard... Nice to see a familiar "face". Drop by any time. :) --Firsfron 04:56, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

My User Page Essay

Please do not arbitrarily censor my user page essay. I welcome any suggestions on its talk page but will revert any vandalism such as your content removal. ShootJar 22:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed a personal attack; please refer to my comments on the proposal's talk page. Ziggurat 22:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!

We are here to build an encyclopedia!

Hi Zig, and thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! (congrats on squeaking under the wire!) With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Adverts: Like The Beatles?... Like LEGO?... In a WikiProject that classifies?... Are you an accountable admin?... Got DYK?...

Blnguyen's RfA

Copperfield

Quoting: Hi, I noticed that you (accidentally, I assume!) seem to have transferred an article onto its talk page, overwriting the talk on that page. You were probably aiming to remove the German addition on the page - oh, and I see that you've done so. Nevermind, all the best! Ziggurat 01:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it was deliberate vandalism but it looks like I got caught. But seriously folks -- yes, I tried to revert the mistake I made, but I couldn't for some reason. I used popups but things seem to mess up, that's what started the whole problem in the first place. -Abscissa 01:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Categories in Userspace

Hi! I noticed that in your scratchpad / draft / alternative article User:Pedant:Voting you have the categories still activated, so it's showing up in Category:Politics, Category:Elections, and a few others. Could I suggest that you deactivate them (by putting a colon before 'Category' in the link) until such time as the article is in the mainspace rather than the userspace? (As per WP:CG, "If you copy an article to your user namespace (for example, as a temporary draft or in response to an edit war) you should decategorize it".) Cheers, Ziggurat 02:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your attention to detail (here: is a 'Stealth Barnstar' for you, feel free to post it on your user page). I'd very much appreciate any edit you make to fix anything you think needs fixing: including anything in my namespace as long as you don't simply delete it. I looked it over and cannot find a category tag, but it seems to still show up in one category. Thanks very much. Sorry for the long delay in replying, I've been on a shoot. Pedant 22:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

people alllegedly gay category

how would you make such a list?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qrc2006 (talk • contribs) .

See my reply at your talk page. Regards, Ziggurat 03:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Damhead

It was a text dump, I must have missed that on their site. I wil contcat them to see fi it is ok to use it. It normally is with publicity blurb, but if they say you need permission i will ask them. Dolive21 13:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Ziggurat, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 20:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)