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Mikhail "the Vulture" Oglu

In the article, this character is described thus: "Yezdigerd's bodyguard and greatest swordsman in Turan. He challenges Conan but is defeated and beheaded (The Shadow of the Vulture)" There is indeed a character named Mikhail "the Vulture" Oglu in the Robert E. Howard story "The Shadow of the Vulture," but this story is set in the Sixteenth Century and has nothing to do with Conan. Is the same name used in a non-Howard Conan story, or was the writer of the article merely confused?75.169.118.228 (talk) 22:10, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Some "non-Conan" stories by Howard were adapted posthumously into Conan stories. IMHO citing these stories here does not help. Kortoso (talk) 16:16, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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Would please someone transfer the pictures into commons database? I like to write a likewise article in the german WP and it would be fine, to use the same pics. Thanks, Chiron —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.174.80.121 (talk) 02:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)_Commons"> _Commons">

Most of the files on this page are still under copyright and are used under fair use terms, so they are not appropriate for Commons. Two files, File:Conan phoenix on sword.jpg and File:Weird Tales May 1934.jpg, are already on Commons. I believe one more, File:Chrysagon Hyboria 1024.jpg, was released under licence but that licence refused permission for commercial use, a restriction which is not allowed on Commons (and it may be a derivative of a copyrighted work anyway; again, not appropriate for Commons). If you need some public domain material, Commons does hav pages for Conan the Barbarian and his creator Robert E. Howard. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 17:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Production Company for Conan and the Young Adventurers

In the section for televisions shows, the first animated series, Conan the Adventurer, is correction attributed to Sunbow Productions. The second animated series, Conan and the Young Adventurers, picks up right where the first one leaves off. It is attributed to DiC in the article, but that is incorrect (it's also wrongly attributed to DiC at the IMDB website; I've submitted a correction there as well). The second animated series, however, was also produced by Sunbow, as you can easily see in this YouTube video of the closing credits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AaDzE8Skxk&feature=player_detailpage#t=59s —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.66.51.74 (talk) 10:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Criticism - Racism

It'd be interesting to include a discussion of racism on this page, it seems like a common thread in analysis of the work. I think there are academic points of view on both sides, but someone with more lit crit expertise than me should add the properly cited content. --108.8.16.179 (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Should be a simple matter of finding an essay discussing racism and the Conan stories. Check conan.com - should be some links there. Kortoso (talk) 16:20, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Conan pronunciation

Is it pronounced Co-Nan (like in the Schwarzenegger movies) or Co-Nin (like Conan O'Brien and the new movie)? Shouldn't this also be mentioned because It seems like many people pronounce it one way and many people pronounce it the other. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drasill (talk • contribs) 01:30, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I believe REH pronounced it CO-nun (it's a traditional Irish name and Wiktionary:Conan seems to agree). However, I don't think I have the source of that so I couldn't provide a reference if I added that to the article. Otherwise, I do not recall any official pronunciation. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:04, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Stan Lee Media claims?

How do the Stan Lee Media claims on the new Conan movie fit into this article? Stan Lee Media Inc. Sues for "Conan" Profits --Lance E Sloan (talk) 13:46, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Chronological writing order

Under "Original Robert E. Howard Conan stories", the stories are listed in the order they were published in. But is there any way to add in what order they were written in? This could be interesting info considering that at least back then the date or writing and publishing was not necessarily always the same. 84.210.10.52 (talk) 19:14, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Description - original research?

Nope, it's not. This all comes from the original stories, and perhaps a letter or two from the author. Unsure how to clear it up.

Also, "Cimmerian" links to the historical people. I'll delete the link until I can make a page for the fictional people. Kortoso (talk) 00:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Here's a first crack: http://www.barbariankeep.com/millerlet.html Letter from Robert E. Howard to P. Schuyler Miller, dated March 10, 1936, published in the Coming of Conan by Robert E. Howard, N.Y., Gnome Press, Inc., Copyright 1953 by Gnome Press.

"In writing these yarns I've always felt less as creating them than as if I were simply chronicling his adventures as he told them to me."

"Conan was about seventeen when he was introduced to the public in "The Tower of the Elephant." While not fully matured, he was riper than the average civilized youth at that age. He was born on a battle field, during a fight between his tribe and a horde of raiding Vanir. The country claimed by and roved over by his clan lay in the northwest of Cimmerian, but Conan was of mixed blood, although a pure-bred Cimmerian. His grandfather was a member of a southern tribe who had fled from his own people because of a blood-feud and after long wanderings, eventually taken refuge with the people of the north. He had taken part in many raids into the Hyborian nations in his youth, before his flight, and perhaps it was the tales he told of those softer countries which roused in Conan, as a child, a desire to see them."

"At Vanarium he was already a formidable antagonist, though only fifteen. He stood six feet and weighed 180 pounds, though he lacked much of having his full growth." Kortoso (talk) 16:40, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Edited "Personality and character" a little, taking out some original research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kortoso (talk • contribs) 17:54, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Copyright and public domain

The article states:

• In the United Kingdom, works fall into the public domain 70 years after the death of an author. Therefore, with Howard having died in 1936, his works have been in the public domain since 2006.

I think that it is also the case in the United States and other countries. Isn't it ? Kintaro (talk) 11:03, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Confusingly, no. The US had several systems during the 20th century. At the time of publication, it was Publication+28 years (with an option of a second term of 28 years if renewed in the final year of the first term). As Howard was dead and no one remembered to renew, at first, a lot entered the public domain around the 1960s. However, some were renewed, and then the final term was extended, so they are now Publication+95 and still under copyright (roughly until the 2020s). On top of all that, a lot of Howard's works were not published in his life (including some Conan stuff), which has different copyright laws. Some of Howard's works are still under copyright in the UK and the rest of the EU (the last large batch was only published in 2005!), although I don't think it includes any Conan. On top of that when De Camp published some of the stories in books, he rewrote them slightly and filed a claim for a joint copyright over those stories for both Howard and himself, so the copyright on those stories depends on his death (in 2000), so they won't enter the public domain until 2071 both in the US and in the UK. As for "other countries", a few have Life+100, so his works won't be in the public domain there until 2037, unless they apply the rule of the shorter term. So, nice and straight forward. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot translations have their own copyright, so many non-English versions of the stories are still under their translators' copyrights. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:53, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your clear and kind answer. You said:

Oh, I forgot translations have their own copyright, so many non-English versions of the stories are still under their translators' copyrights

Of course! I know... but concerning de Camp's writings I think that the British-American critical edition of the Conan stories, by Wandering Star Books (UK) and Ballantine/Del Rey (US), doesn't include a single line from de Camp, it is 100 % Howard stuff... so, de Camp is not related any more with the authentic Howard Estate... or he still is ? Kintaro (talk) 14:33, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the Wandering Star/Del Rey editions are pure Howard text with no de Camp. I just included that for completeness, and it does complicate some of the copyrights. (For The Black Stranger, for example, do you use the first pure publication in 1987 or the de Camped Treasure of Tranicos publication in 1953?) - AdamBMorgan (talk) 15:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. I use the official Spanish edition (timunmas, Barcelona, 2005-2007), translated into Spanish from the original English text established by the Wandering Star edition (established in fact for Wandering Star by a French guy, Patrice Louinet, from whom I could have read his translation -into French- of the same edition :) In any case, the Wandering Star critical edition states that its Black Stranger text is the one included in Echoes_of_Valor (1987), supposedly the first time publication of The Black Stranger. So... I think that the Howard Estate doesn't have de Camp problems any more. Thank you again, Adam. Kintaro (talk) 02:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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