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FWIW

One of the things that has driven me to semi-retirement and pretty much proper retirement from mainspace (check my edit history) is the petty agenda to demand references for any content inclusion to BLP unless referenced. While I admire the drive for improved referencing across the whole of the encyclopedia, I find the following deeply depressing, offputting, aggressive and deeply regrettable:

Insertion of mundane fact in BLP
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Removal of said fact by BLP warrior
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Puzzled questioning of removal of uncontentious material
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Triumphant declaration that it's contentious because the BLP warrior contends it
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Baffled retreat

This is NOT why we created BLP. You'll know that with my oversight hat on in particular, I've been a flagbearer for BLP since the early days and am prepared to go out on a limb for it.

But this is nonsense. It's worn me down. Goodness only knows what it does to newbies and first-time editors who've had the gumption to brave making their first edit.

At the end of the day, I couldn't be bothered to fight it.

So now you know why I've largely vanished. --Dweller (talk) 17:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, what's driven me to stick my head above the parapet is editors who push the above, editors who appear to claim ownership over the various drama boards without ever actually improving articles, and editors who are clearly on borrowed time pending bans. The sanctimonious crap you're being subjected to over at the RD is just a prime example of people who have nothing, literally nothing better to do, nor are they actually capable of doing anything positive. Justin Bieber wouldn't have it this way. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:37, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Bruno Mars

I have corrected everything you asked regarding the List of awards and nominations received by Bruno Mars could you take a look? The candidature has been draging for the last months. Thank You MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

ITN

Please be careful Step hen 23:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Please be consistent with you "careful" warnings The Rambling Man (talk) 08:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Didn't notice that one, and I'm not going looking through histories. I agreed with your point there, and was merely pointing out that you are, rather ridiculously, not allowed to make it. Step hen 08:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Watchlist

Might I suggest it's best to remove from your watchlist the talk pages (and user pages) of anyone you have a interaction ban with? Nil Einne (talk) 15:41, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

You can suggest it. Sadly the wreckage caused at the reference desks by some users (still ongoing) means I can't avoid helping others to avoid the same pain. But thanks, so much, for your concern. Having said that, I'd be fascinated by the diffs that you "discovered" that you're so concerned about that you'd give me the free advice here. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:44, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I've found it. "While perhaps not technically a violation" are you kidding me? Perhaps those who lurk around the drama boards are even more stupid than I could even imagine. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:04, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

That rollback link has got me a few times as well on my iPhone. If desired, you can hide it as follows in special:mypage/common.css or special:mypage/monobook.css... –xeno 16:27, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

.page-Special_Watchlist .mw-rollback-link, {
    display: none;
}

Thank you Xeno, At last someone with something helpful to say! Much appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:30, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Happy to help. Best regards, –xeno 16:32, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Question on reference

Thank you for your reassurance on my question in helpdesk. DanielDemaret (talk) 16:29, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

No problems. As a result of the behaviour of some editors who think they own the place, the reference desks can be daunting places to ask questions (which is entirely incorrect), so I'm glad I could reassure you. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:30, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

ITN for Matteo Renzi

On 24 February 2014, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Matteo Renzi, which you recently nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

--Spencer 21:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

FLC

Hey, I'm waiting you at Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/List of Pakistan women Twenty20 International cricketers/archive1. Regards, —Zia Khan 17:55, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it's being archived, sorry about that. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:23, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem, next time! —Zia Khan 19:53, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Your opinion would be of great value

Good morning and I trust all is well with you and your loved ones.
May I ask you to read this thread on my Talk. You are the Brit I mention in today's closing post. The editor asked me to keep an eye on him when he started on WP as recently as this:
Thank you for note letting me know why it was reverted. Am trying to make a contribution, but also trying to find my way. I appreciate it. (btw, on a completely unrelated matter, being mostly Welsh myself - grandparents from Abertillery and Six Bells - like the Welsh flag on your page) Onel5969 (talk) 1:19 am, 17 December 2013, Tuesday (2 months, 14 days ago) (UTC+0)
We have kept in constant contact after I led him to GOCE where he constantly carried out excellent editing (see his User page)
Your opinion on Phoenix, Arizona would be of great value to me in continuing to mentor this keen recruit. Sincerely, Gareth.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:12, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Morning Gareth. I'd be more than happy to do a TRM-special peer review on the article's talk page, but I couldn't guarantee that it'd make the path to FA any simpler. I'll see if I can dedicate some time to it over the weekend if you think it might be helpful? The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Any input would be appreciated. I see you have already made a couple of revisions there. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:03, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Some of what Nikki said repeats itself, some of it can be indecipherable, I'll do my best to point at some of the MOS pages and issues she's already addressed, along with some of my own if I get a chance. Happy St David's Day by the way... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:12, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Cheers! Looking forward to attacking your fortress, "Twikkers" in a week's time.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:08, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Post script — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the mentoring help

Thank you for your help mentoring me.

Just wanted to let you know that Dan Savage bibliography has been successfully promoted to Featured List quality, (diff).

Your help and advice throughout this process has been most appreciated.

Thanks again,

— Cirt (talk) 10:15, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome Cirt, well done! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:19, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, it was a rewarding quality improvement project ! — Cirt (talk) 17:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

legal

Remarks have been made on at cric that are close to actionable. WP is not a law unto itself whatever you may possibly or possibly not believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.64.25 (talk) 18:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Then I guess someone will do something about it. I, on the other hand, have much better things to be doing. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Joshua King

Thanks for reviewing my article. I want to inform you that I have mentioned all your queries. Thanks. RRD13 (talk) 15:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

A thousand thanks, friend. :-) RRD13 (talk) 15:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:33, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Can you justify passing it as a GA with the Spokeo reference? Clearly fails WP:RS, due to it using Misplaced Pages's page on Joshua King as a reference. C 679 17:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Heh, funny there's so much interest in this all of a sudden, pity you both couldn't have helped it on its way by fixing these issues. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:14, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Here's an idea, I'll pick a GAN that's been waiting for six months, review it in detail, hope and assume good faith that many items have been fixed, then you can all swoop in like vultures to moan about it. Sounds like a perfect management plan. Alternatively, do something about it in the intervening six months. No, that's far too easy. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

this, however, is a reliable source, and really wasn't too hard to find. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 17:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Luke, much appreciated. In other news, anyone else going to show up to moan about the review? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

There is a WordPress source in there that you missed, so I'm going to see if I can do anything about that. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 17:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm merely suggesting not to award GA status in a rush, but according to the criteria. If you can't be bothered, don't "review" it. There is no time limit. I notice I'm not the first to comment on the quality of your review, TRM. FWIW I did help with the review as you can see on three separate occasions while it was a candidate. I suppose your ego won't accept that maintaining the quality of GA reviews is more important than "clearing" the backlog, which, by the way, I hope you don't take credit for in this case. C 679 17:29, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the personal attack. Of course, tagging things for {{citation needed}} is really "helping with the review", so you must be really pleased with your contribution. If you're such an expert, do the review yourself, in fact, you should have done the review six months ago. There's always WP:GAR if you have a real issue. If so, see you there, if not, why are you here? Now piss off and do something useful, for a change. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

C679, leave it. TRM, don't rise to it. It should be sorted now. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 17:33, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I will say that I wouldn't personally have passed it as a GA as it was at the time, but it should be a lot better now (although there may still be some imperfections in my own writing style). The lead was fairly poorly written, the Hull City section was empty, and the article was quite outdated prose-wise (not that it's superb now, but he hasn't really done much of note for a while). Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 18:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Yep, thanks. But if there are genuine serious concerns, as User:Cloudz679 claims, along with the personal attacks, WP:GAR is the way forward. Interesting to see people just sniping from the sidelines once again without actually doing anything about it. So easy. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:13, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, TRM, for doing that review, it has been waiting for too long for someone to review it. I hope the negative reactions on your review doesn't scare you from doing reviews in the future - in Misplaced Pages there will always be people that disagree with you. () Mentoz (talk) 22:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Well, for all the uproar, the article is now twice as good as it was before, and several editors have chipped in with various improvements. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:43, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

That's Misplaced Pages. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Did you mean to catch this in your revert?

Hey there, this insertion was referenced to English sources:

Lyu Xinhua, spokesman for the second session of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference called the attack a "serious violent terrorist attack" and claimed that it was perpetrated by "terrorist elements from Xinjiang." This claim has been echoed by officials in Kunming.

Was it your intention to remove that or was it just caught with the Chinese-language references? Simonm223 (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

You tell me. The article seems subject to a vast array of edits, now all focused on who's to blame, POV being added and lots of piss-poor formatted refs. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

List of cricketers who have scored centuries in each innings of a Test match

Hi, this list is still at FLC waiting for comments. Could you possibly have a look at this one too. —Vensatry _(Ping) 06:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:00, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

John Gielgud, roles and awards FLC

Hi RM, I hope all is good. I wonder if you could have a look at John Gielgud, roles and awards when you get a chance? It's a new FLC, but has got a few fairly big tables which I'd like a second opinion on, as I'm sure I must have overlooked something, but I can't readily spot them! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 15:35, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll try to take a look! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Smug

You are too smug by half.If you can't edit competently, please ask someone to help, like an admin. There are a few competent admins left out there, particularly those who don't lurk around the drama boards, but actually get involved in content - and make smug comments. Remember - nobody cares - your name is a fiction and lonliness has lead you to make a million edits. Great!!!!!!CzCzuba (talk) 11:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for stopping by! Have a great day CzCzuba, you're a real asset. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

And there we are - a smug beaky little man at his work station who mkes 100 edits a day. In the old days it was mailbags or train spotting *********************************** — Preceding unsigned comment added by CzCzuba (talk • contribs) 11:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Are you still here dude? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:27, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Both perfectly reasonable pastimes in my book. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

And no grasp of elementary English. Get bac to watching Lebowski - that too is fiction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CzCzuba (talk • contribs) 11:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

The Big Lebowski is a film classic. --S.G. _ping! 14:23, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Indeed it is. "Not on the rug...." The Rambling Man (talk) 14:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

something to colour inCzCzuba (talk) 11:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the stars dude. Really cool. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Random drive-by commenting! --S.G. _ping! 13:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

There was an old admin (a mug),

Who was so incredibly smug.

When baited by trolls,

He threw out his dolls,

And just ranted “Not on the rug!!”

- anon (Limerick) 14:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi TRM. Wanted to thank you for your edits on Jaroslav Sramek recently; the article featured on the main page via Did You Know? this week and attracted more than 5,000 viewers, a significant number. Thanks for taking the time to improve it. C 679 16:06, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. Glad it was so popular. Hopefully we can move on together improving stuff rather than the silliness we both let ourselves get involved in before? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:08, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Name sorting (Megan Rapinoe)

I see you modified with sortname. I just fixed the Lineup with correct minutes-played. Goal in match format was changed, which is why it is sorting strange; and that was the reason 2.1 2.2 were used for correct sorting. Location is sorted by country first followed by city-name; without the flagicons the sorting appear odd. The 2 letter format is used to conserve space. Each of them has a link; so that the reader can hover over the location or follow the link. Besides location is of secondary importance, the reader only needs to know if it is home game or away game for which the flagicon helps to identify. I would prefer to put the flagicon back in there and get rid of the state name altogether. There are not too many cities with same names in the Location column (none that I know of). Thanks for updating the goals table. Harvardton (talk) 17:30, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

No I have not tested the color for accessibility. The darker shades used earlier was easier to distinguish. The lighter shades are quite close; and it varies not only on different computer monitors, also from different angles. Harvardton (talk) 17:48, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

FYI mentioned you at Arbitration Amendment Request

FYI, I've mentioned you at my Arbitration Amendment Request, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Amendment_request:_Cirt_and_Jayen466.

Once again, thanks very much for being my mentor throughout all this.

Cheers,

— Cirt (talk) 04:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

IndiGo

Could you please page protect this article? An editor keeps adding a incident to the page which the consensus is that it is non-notable....William 11:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:The Bells of Saint John/GA1

Hi, thanks for the review. I have responded to all your points, bar one I wasn't sure about. Thanks, Mat ty.007 12:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I have responded again. Thanks, Mat ty.007 18:40, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Ref Desk Talk

Seems that I am not supposed to respond to you . 54.213.95.118 (talk) 22:34, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Here's a fun redlink

Steve the sturgeon. See here. Goes well with Benson (fish). I look forward to the WP:BLP1E issue being raised so we can discuss if fish are covered by BLP. --Dweller (talk) 10:21, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Can't begin to imagine the trouble I'd be in (although Steve has been featured in the BBC and the Torygraph so multiple sources.... tempting...!) If I do it, you'll have to back me up at the AFD! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

You think I cod had-dock such a fintastic opportuna-ity to scales new heights of clownfishing around? This Cat is probably my favourite in the whole of Misplaced Pages, though calling it a Cat seems almost blasphemous. --Dweller (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Btw, if you're ever monstrously bored, this page is a fun read, as well as the CfD it spawned. --Dweller (talk) 16:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

..lest we forget, fnaar, fnaar.. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Is this chap also in the Category tree? --Dweller (talk) 16:36, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

... almost a fish? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:46, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I had noticed that Ming is in the top level Cat. Presumably no-one has yet devised Category:Individual bivalves. Ach, this place is fantastically anal, I love it. --Dweller (talk) 16:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Hold hard, the more we speak of living creatures, the more we risk the wrath of the BLP police.... Or are animals not... people....? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:26, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

!! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:48, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Sticky situation if you're not careful! - SchroCat (talk) 20:21, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Never Mind the Policy, Here's the Encyclopedia. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:45, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

John Johnson

Hi. I want to inform you that I have answered all your points. RRD13 (talk) 15:47, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Not quite. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Chiquitita?

They're even starting to call you "The Admin in the Tutti Frutti Hat".. (allegedly). Martinevans123 (talk) 15:54, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

"With all that fruit, it looks so cute, I can't believe it it's really you, like a film star..." The Rambling Man (talk) 15:57, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

"Well I had a feller round and gave him a pound, to free her with an oxyacetaline welder"

.."I’m flabbergasted — never has my flabber been so gasted!” Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Megan Rapinoe

On 11 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Megan Rapinoe, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Megan Rapinoe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 02:02, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Research to understand article reviews

Hi,

We’re a team of researchers at Stanford University, and we’re interested in how editors review nominated articles for GA status. Rather than just looking to the assessment guidelines, we’re also interested in how individual editors then use these guidelines to evaluate articles. We were hoping if you’d be able to spend some time with us, and help us understand how you would differentiate, say, a C-class article from a Good Article.

Looking forward to hearing back! Our email address is jc14253 AT cs DOT stanford DOT edu

Justin Cheng and Michael Bernstein, Stanford University (http://hci.stanford.edu/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcccf (talk • contribs) 00:55, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Just checking for additional comments

Per the suggestion from Aureez at FLC Audie Murphy honors and awards, just checking with all previous reviewers to see if there are any other comments. Thank you for what you have already input there. — Maile (talk) 12:29, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Query

Would you consider Alfa Romeo SE 048SP to be long enough for a Good Article? I'd like to check before putting it through the process. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 17:07, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

No reason why not. It looks comprehensive, it'd be a good test case. I've seen plenty of articles go through GAN in much worse states and pass, so you're already in a good position. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for the GA review! Best, Mat ty.007 19:50, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

And here's some balaclava for you, just in case you need to foil the spoonheads. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:09, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Have you been reading the GA article? Mat ty.007 20:15, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Lol, as if. I'd rather go jump in a lake! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:18, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Singing songs as we go to the lake. I think Glimmer721 wrote a fair bit of the article. Thanks, Mat ty.007 20:27, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh, Amy Pond, oh my. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:45, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

List of accidents and incidents involving commercial aircraft

I think this page needs page protection for in the last two days IP vandals have either taken down the Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 entry or added snark to the page....William 16:17, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

It's just "one of those things". It'll calm down in due course. I've got it on my watch list so anything untoward can be removed. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:We Don't Need to Whisper/GA1

I'm okay with re-reviewing it, though I won't be offended if you want to GAR it; truth be told I hate doing music reviews since I know I'm not good at them. Wizardman 23:32, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

You do know you don't actually have to do these reviews, right?! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:10, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Move

Hi, now that the article has passed FLC, can you move the page to List of cricketers who have scored centuries in both innings of a Test match? —Vensatry _(Ping) 17:59, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:09, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks —Vensatry _(Ping) 03:36, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Charles Frederick Worth

hello, hope you are in fine fettle this Spring. Could I ask you to take a look at Charles Worth and the discussion about moving him back to the original title of the article. The editor who did it has a thing about Middle names and their value or valueless, see User_talk:JamKaftan#Richard_Keatinge for example, though I do now see the need for a redirect from Charles Worth to Charles Frederick Worth (and not the other way round).I have started the discussion, not that one should have been needed, but now do not know how to close it. Guidance appreciated. Thanks Edmund Patrick – confer 18:52, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

new addition, after reviewing the editor's history and interaction with others I will ask at the original request page in the hope that someone picks it up. IMHO this editor (who seems to have started under this name in January) is very clear as to how she/he sees[REDACTED] and through that her/his interaction with other editors (see the last three inputs on the talk page - (now I'm sounding as if I am out to get the editor!!! not good getting into a lather...)). I am sure you have better things to do, I know I do, having to try to move a page back that should not have been moved in the first place puts me in bad twist.Edmund Patrick – confer 14:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorted. Edmund Patrick – confer 17:19, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

MMM at PR and FAC soon

You did the GA for Mucho Macho Man, just a heads up that I'm going to send it to FAC quite soon, am just finishing the peer review. If you want to pop by with any thoughts, comments, fixes, or whatever, feel free. Not sure if doing the GAN means you can't be a reviewer for the FAC, but either way, either as editing advice or at FAC, would appreciate your input! Montanabw 23:02, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Got "Macho" at FAC now. FYI! Montanabw 20:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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MOS

At least, that's today's version of MOS... Bencherlite 21:56, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Live and "learn"! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:56, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Fizz

You may want to move your text "If you had asked "... from Humanities to Science". Star Lord - 星王 (talk) 19:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Not really. There are some editors who aren't quite consistent on what a "request for an opinion" is. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Your interaction ban with Medeis

Hey, TRM. Your edits to Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive_editing_of_the_reference_desks would appear to be violations of your interaction ban with Medeis. Please don't edit the section again (unless you want to strike your comments in light of it;probably best, but that's up to you, I guess). Keep in mind that interaction bans mean that make reference to or comment on anywhere on Misplaced Pages, whether directly or indirectly, and this wasn't even all that indirect, really. Further violations will be dealt with via blocks, per usual. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I was led to believe that comments at boards such as AN/I, while not direct, were acceptable. Where can such comments be made? At the time of the original interaction ban, it was indicated to me that I could pursue an RFC based on the misbehaviour of certain editors. Is that no longer the case? Of course, you and the brigade know best, and allowing, in fact encouraging, the ongoing disruption is at your discretion. I'll remove whatever you suggest. Please provide diffs that I should strike through and I'll do that post-haste. I'd like clarification on what comments you are actually referencing. I'm sure you and the others here who all seem to operate with blinkers to such ongoing disruption will be more than pleased with the result of me redacting comments chosen carefully but designed to prevent the continual and relentless ownership of the reference desk by certain individuals. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:25, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hilarious. As for the possibly serious part of your post, the terms of the interaction ban as logged at Misplaced Pages:Editing_restrictions#Placed_by_the_Wikipedia_community are: These bans include article, talk, wikipedia, and user space, without exception. No mention of the others or their actions shall be permitted. Doesn't look like there's any part of that that allows for an RfC, and certainly not any part that allows for comments at ANI, so I guess the answer to your question is "nowhere". I don't see any part of the initial ANI discussion that would lead to any other conclusion; where are you seeing it? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:33, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Not sure what was "hilarious"? Anyway, as I've said elsewhere, it's clear that some editors have a free pass to disrupt, own and lie all over this place with relative impunity. And some admins/'crats are all supporting it. Let me know which diffs you want me to strike, I'll do that, and then you can do something useful, and I'll keep on trying to improve Misplaced Pages, unlike those who have a free pass to disrupt, own and lie everywhere. And I imagine you'll feel great about enforcing it too. Actually, I don't, I think you're a reasonable and decent person, but defence of someone who does nothing but discourage other editors is indefensible. So, diffs please. (And please, my comment such as this is purely addressed to the poor opening poster who has no clue any more what is, and what is not, acceptable at RD, if you think that's incorrect, perhaps this discussion shouldn't continue further at all....) By the way, I won't be online for the next eight or nine hours, so feel free to do whatever you think best; it would be great if you'd start looking into the ongoing ref desk disruption, maybe we can work on that together. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

My warning was purely for the ANI posts; I hadn't known about or considered any other possible violations when making it. At first glance, none of the diffs Medeis posted on Bish's talk page that I looked at looked like violations, but I can't really say for sure, I guess. Anyway, no, no diffs; if you don't want to strike anything, I don't want to make you do so. It wouldn't have been more than a symbolic gesture in any event, since what is written is written, so if you don't want to strike 'em, there's not much point. Anyway, I don't think of this as defending Medeis; I think of this as that the community has decided (in its infinite wisdom, of course) that you two need to be kept apart, and my job as an admin is to implement such decisions, nothing more or less. Maybe it has that effect, but that's not why it's happening, and anyway, if it really is disruptive, other editors will point it out for you (as Guy Macon did here). What the interaction ban means is simply that you need to step back and let others handle it. As far as the refdesk goes, to be honest, it's just not something I really care about; I'm kinda more of the opinion that we should shut them down entirely; I don't really see what they have to do with Misplaced Pages (though I've posted on them a few times, so I guess I'm no more consistent than any other mortal). So, that's more why I don't know of and haven't pursued any disruption by Medeis, rather than an active defense. I'll try to look into it. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 21:15, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, the sooner the better, I have records of many dozens of edits that demonstrate a history of disruption and ownership at RD should they be required. Will be on/off wiki for a bit this week, but would appreciate your updates. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:20, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I will most likely not be giving updates, or asking for your records; such would be essentially asking you to violate your interaction ban, and apart from that, I'd rather form my own opinions based on my own observations. Accepting your help would make it appear that you have "recruited" me (even though you haven't), and give people cause to think that any final conclusions I might come to will have been biased by your influence (whether they actually have or not), which would make this a waste of time. I will simply look into it, that's all. Thanks, though. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 21:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I see you've been "got at", recruitment etc. You could have, at least, tried to obfuscate the text, to use it verbatim is telling. Thanks for nothing, and for allowing the disruption to continue unabated. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)