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it is political and wikipedia is encyclopedia. we do not comment prices and make such comparisons. the sources are written on a blog.

Anderswarr

I am changing brown bear to grizzly bear in coastal Alaska related articles because it is not correct, and this is a fact, to call any North American subspecies of Ursus arctos a "brown bear." Brown bears are also found in Asia and Europe, if you don't know. There it is correct to call any member of U. arctos a "brown bear." It is correct only to call them brown bears in Europe and Asia. Both coastal and non-coastal members are called brown bears. So in America, both coastal and non-coastal members are called grizzly bears. This is not only correct, but it reduces confusion. Calling both inland and coastal members in Eurasia and coastal members of America brown bears and calling inland North American ones grizzly bears is just plain confusing, stupid, and wrong.

For the very reason and to reduce confusion, we now call all North American subspecies grizzlies. The majority of sources still say coastal ones are brown bears, but don't listen to them - they're wrong. If you want to find out why it is correct to call North American ones grizzlies, check out Gary Brown's The Great Bear Almanac or Robert H. Busch's The Grizzly Almanac. The authors say it is correct to call all North American ones grizzlies.

Please stop changing any edits I make that change brown bear to grizzly in North American articles.

Thank you. From User:Anderswarr — Preceding undated comment added 00:43, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

The overwhelming common usage in Alaska is to describe the coastal bears as brown bears. This is adhered to by biologists and land managers across the state. You will never hear anyone talk of a "grizzly bear" on the Tongass National Forest, for example. If there is significant academic debate on this point, it should be cited and discussed - but the common name is "brown." For you to call it "stupid" is simply unhelpful. I gather that you have much to learn about the nuances of biological naming. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 02:07, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

-I apologize for calling "brown bear" stupid when I sent you the last message. I do NOT have much to learn about biological naming, since I am a bear enthusiast and have long learned much about bears. I do understand that the majority of local Alaskans call coastal ones "brown bears" and I respect anyone who calls them by this name. However, there are many people, including me, who still consider "grizzly" to be correct in all locations.

I have posted on the Katmai talkpage why I am changing brown bear to grizzly bear. Please visit the talk page to find out why I am doing so. Thank you.

From User:Anderswarr — Preceding undated comment added 03:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

NorthBySouthBaranof,

I am eager to know what "expanding a page by characters" means. On the Kukaklek Lake page, you said that if I expanded it by 1,500 characters you would help me get it nominated on Misplaced Pages's title page. I am sorry that I did not get around to expanding the page, but maybe you could help me with the newest page I have created, Peninsular brown bear. I would really like to have my contributions be shown on the front page of Misplaced Pages.

It would be very nice if you could help me get it nominated; I am also eager to know what "Characters" in this case means.

Thanks, NorthBySouthBaranof! From User:Anderswarr Posted on May 2, 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 23:31, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Hi, This is just to say thank you for the effort to make my article good for Jacob Barnett. Cheers! Ashish Lohorung (talk) 06:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Tax as theft

Please see Talk:Taxation in the United States#Tax as theft. You moved it from Income tax in the United States to Taxation in the United States, but it's not really specific to the US. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Please feel free to remove it from that article if you don't think it belongs there! NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 05:08, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your RfA support

Hi there, a bit of a form letter from me, Cyphoidbomb, but I wanted to drop you a line and thank you for your support at my recent RfA. Although I was not successful, I certainly learned quite a bit both about the RfA process and about how the community views my contributions. It was an eye-opener, to say the least. Thank you! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, it says a lot more about the state of the encyclopedia's consensus processes than it does your fitness for the mop and bucket. Keep doing good. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 01:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Jason Russell

I just want to apologize for any conflicting edits. And thanks for cleaning up the language on the RfC. 173.79.251.253 (talk) 03:16, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Removal of sourced material

Is vandalism. Benkenobi18 (talk) 09:27, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

please engage in dialog before making substantial edits

Please choose to engage in the collaborative process of dialog on an article's talk page before substantially restructuring the article, as in the case of Vance McAllister. Thanks. BlueSalix (talk) 18:09, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the eyes on the article. It seems like there are some editors who have a significant lack of understanding about what BLP means. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:10, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again for your assistance and support. Hopefully they get the message and stick to the sources when they come back. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

It is amusing

but it's probably better to stay off the guy's talk page once he asks... sheesh, what is it about Sarkeesian that gets them so riled up? I just don't get it.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:49, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

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Bundy standoff

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Please ask for specific citations

Please ask for specific citations where you need citations on the bitcoin article. Please do not delete everything in my contribution - including many items that are just repetitions of statements already referenced in the bitcoin article. Please be Misplaced Pages cooperative and not disruptive. Please indicate spicifically what you need to be referenced. I do not know what you want referenced. Or do you want every word referenced? Please read the Talk page on bitcoin and you will see that I have been involved in long discussions on the talk page. I do not remember seeing your name taking part in the long discussions on the bitcoin talk page. My discussions are there including with regard to what you simply deleted because you know how to use WP tools.SpiltOctacle (talk) 08:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

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WP:AN3

Hi, NBSB. I understand why you nowiki'd the references in the quotes you provided at AN3, but in practice it made the text really hard to read, and as for trying to compare the two passages you offered… it was frustrating. An option in similar cases might be to leave the refs as they are and simply add the <references/> template below the post, making them show up as footnotes. Anyway. You do good work, happy editing! Bishonen | talk 11:51, 3 May 2014 (UTC).

Actually, I didn't nowiki them, lol... I think it was the person who made the report. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 15:47, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Ha. Well, moot now anyway. Bishonen | talk 15:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC).

Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership

Please engage in article Talk on specific issues for content that you restored. Thanks.CFredkin (talk) 23:15, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

No need edit explanation

NorthBySouthBaranof Why is there no need for this factual information?Patroit22 (talk) 01:30, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Alaskan Vandal/Government Employee

Hey there! There does not seem to be an abundance of Vandal Wikipedians, so I was pleased to see another active one. I was further surprised to see a fellow Alaskan! Then, I was further stunned to see that you are a government employee, which I have been in the past! So, there is a fellow Alaskan who is not only an Idaho Vandal, but also has government experience! What are the odds?! Glad to be your acquaintance! DARTHBOTTO _talk•cont 21:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

University of Idaho

Hello,

I took a look at your user page. My mother grew up in and around Moscow. My father, born in Detroit, went to college there, as did my mom. Their romance led to my birth and a 47 year marriage. Alas, neither graduated. Something about a baby. I still have cousins in Moscow and I have visited there many times over the years. It is a wonderful town, and my roots there go back to 1880. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Move review notification

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Progressive Taxes

Looks like you're on the receiving end of VictorD7's frustrations. This RFC stems from a couple of editors who have banded together to dismiss the findings of the OEDC (a non-partisan group) that had done a global analysis of how progressive taxes are by nation. The OECD has no dog in the US debates about how progressive the US is or not.

The report is behind a paywall, but it has been covered by these sources , , . This doesn't mean the US has the most progressive spending which is separate from tax policy. When compared to peer nations, the US lags in that regard but Lawrencehkoo and EllenCT conflate the two and have tried to expand the scope to a broader topic of income inequality (which has its own articles).

Instead of accepting a reliable source, a couple of editors started bringing in their opinions and citing a single source that takes an unusual approach to calculating total taxes including state and local. But even one of those editors has admitted that with current (as of 2013) tax law, taxes on even the 1% are progressive.

I don't expect this to change your opinion on the matter, but I wanted provide some focus on where this comes from.Mattnad (talk) 11:37, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks National Monument

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I have offered some help Victuallers (talk) 21:14, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you a bunch! I am on a wildland fire assignment and will be offline from Misplaced Pages for a couple weeks. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 21:34, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

User:Useitorloseit

Whatever happened to your topic ban request? I can't find it in the ANI archives for some reason. Gamaliel (talk) 21:11, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

It just petered out without closure, I think - would be in an archive from May 9? NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 21:27, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I just found it searching manually in Archive 839. Odd that it didn't come up when I used the search box. Gamaliel (talk) 21:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

ANI

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medicine:Reviewing the reviews revert

Your comment: "This needs to be discussed - misrepresents what the study claims to have studied, also unclear whether this is a significant study or an outlier" Thanks for spelling out your concerns for me. Two objectives are both in the "methods" and "results" and are about two readers varied results, the other objective is "systematic reviews about the evidence base of medicine" and the conclusion has "no effect or insufficient evidence is surprisingly high" I was really surprised at their high result and think 160 Cochrane reviews is very significant study. full document here: http://www-personal.umd.umich.edu/~dmoerman/ReviewOfReviews.pdfDougmcdonell (talk) 06:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Bergdahl

These were good edits. Nice work. --John (talk) 22:37, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

IEX/Brad Katsuyama

Thanks for your contributions to both articles. I've reviewed the end result and they seem satisfactory. I'll improve on write-up on the other 2 criticisms as that seems to be the most controversial. 198.0.163.1 (talk) 14:33, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: Brad Katsuyama's Biographic Page - HFTs Criminal and Civil Investigations:

I am re-adding the references to the ongoing criminal and civil investigations of certain high frequency trading exchanges that were recently deleted as they were claimed to not be relevant. This is absolutely relevant information to this Brad Katsuyama's page as these investigations are the reason this person initiated IEX, which is definitely relevant to their biography, with one of the main reasons this person is known and has a Misplaced Pages page to begin with and therefore certainly relevant to be place on their biography here. Additionally, this information is completely objective and accurate with no bias whatsoever. These comments portray facts, totally objectively and relevant to the person's biographical work section. I must question the motivation to remove these comments due to the previously mentioned reasons as to why they are relevant and mundane to this person's Misplaced Pages page; the action of removing them is a clearly biased and transparent action to silence the real world events surrounding significant work of this person and are therefore completely justified to be on his Misplaced Pages page and are well within Misplaced Pages's guidelines and policies. Please do not remove these justified, objective and relevant comments again on the matter of criminal and civil investigations into high frequency trading exchanges brought on by this person's work, if you do so your agenda to silence legitimate, real world criticism of an outcome of this person's major work life will become even more transparent and known. For complete and full disclosure I have absolutely no connection or relationship with Brad Katsuyama, IEX, or any organization or person associated with the content of this post. I am simply trying to provide objective, relevant information that is uncensored and free from bias so Misplaced Pages users will get the best and most accurate experience with the site. Thank you. Calboarder24 (talk) 05:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

These comments will be re-added and will remain on this person's Misplaced Pages page as relevant, objective, free from bias and well within Misplaced Pages's guidelines and policies:

Since the publishing of Flash Boys and the opening of IEX, several U.S. authorities have confirmed they are looking into certain practices used by high-frequency traders (HFTs), whose strategies can involve executing thousands of trades in milliseconds using insider knowledge that is not publicly available, giving these HFTs an unfair market advantage. The FBI, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, the U.S. Justice Department and the attorney-general of New York State all have investigations underway.

The USA Today article nowhere mentions Katsuyama, Flash Boys or IEX. Therefore, the insertions are original research and synthesis, which are prohibited on Misplaced Pages. Please use the article talk page for further discussion of this matter. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 06:48, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

I've moved this discussion to the talk page of Brad Katsuyama's article. I agree with NorthBySouthBaranof's point of view; I do not think that Misplaced Pages should be used as a platform to forward, or market, any particular person's professional goals and work. Hence, I believe it is consistent with Misplaced Pages policies that content in Brad Katsuyama's article should remain strictly biographical. Sophie.grothendieck (talk) 08:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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