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Area rankings in cities
While some of the changes you made may be true with respect to administrative area, they are NOT w.r.t. population. The latter is generally more important. Therefore, I am wholesale reverting your edits in this regard. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 00:09, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- w.r.t = with respect to. Very easy to look up. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 06:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is no reason for you to respond by e-mail, and I don't want my inbox littered with Misplaced Pages messages. Keep the conversation in one place.
- I can choose any country's system of English spelling as I see fit. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 06:36, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- I am beginning to think you are searching literally. Rankings w.r.t. population clearly indicate ranking by number of persons residing in city limits.
- Knowledge of what constitutes proper Misplaced Pages etiquette is a prerequisite to criticism of another's "skills in diplomacy and common courtesy". Hardly any other Wikipedian would resort to e-mail to discuss an issue as trivial as this. None of my posts here are rude in the slightest. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 06:48, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- Much better. But your comment about w.r.t. being "very easy to look up" was rude specifically because it was condescending. And hardly any other Wikipedian so flippantly undo another's edit with the comment "man you gotta realize ______". Frankly, I didn't take the latter as bothersome as your w.r.t. comment. It's a matter of professionalism. Furthermore, be real. Email is the more efficient way of communicating. Claiming it as a breach of etiquette is downright foolish and contrived.
- Rankings by population are listed in the "list of U.S. cities by population" vs. "list of U.S. cities by area". The problem is the inaccurate (or misleading) use of the word "large". The reader will better comprehend the difference when "large" refers to area as opposed to population - alternatively, "most populous" when referring to population. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
And hardly any other Wikipedian so flippantly undo another's edit with the comment "man you gotta "...
—your words. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 07:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC)- ... um ... yes they were my words ... your point? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- I almost never begin a sentence with "man", unless referring to humanity, as I consider it crass and low-class. It should have been clear I was imitating you with humorous intent. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 07:18, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- The responsibility of communication lies more with the giver of the communication than the receiver. That fact that it wasn't clear ... whether you think it should have been clear is irrelevant. The "you" in your post was terse - the fact that you cannot see that shows you are oblivious, but it unfortunately also appears to be typical of your comments on this thread. The irony lies in your comment that beginning a sentence with "man" is crass and low-class yet you are clueless as to your own lack of tact, something "very easy to look up". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- I almost never begin a sentence with "man", unless referring to humanity, as I consider it crass and low-class. It should have been clear I was imitating you with humorous intent. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 07:18, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- ... um ... yes they were my words ... your point? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
What I lack in tact I make up for by self-awareness, self-perception, and several orders of magnitude in finesse and taste, the latter two infinitely superior to most people I know (why else would they be constantly listening to music that almost certainly will not last a few decades, then?. And, 1) stop responding by e-mail, especially if you're going to post here anyway (what a waste of time) 2) sign your posts with ~~~~ 3) get a life and some sense of humour (I know mine is low enough), too. I've even outright attacked others (I don't any more) in edit summaries only to be awarded with a Humour Barnstar. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 07:46, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- first, you criticize my emails as a waste of time, and then tell me to sign my posts ... ON MY OWN TALK PAGE? See I do have a sense of humor because to me THAT'S FUNNY! That along with the finesse and taste. Second, HELLOOOOO KETTLE! I do have a life; I don't spend my time trolling Misplaced Pages posts
- This "it's my house so I can do whatever the hell I want" argument is nothing short of suicidal and childish. Irrespective of where you place your comments, you must sign your posts, for the bloody convenience of outsiders. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 08:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- you are not merely "missing the point"; you are ignoring it. So rather than state the obvious as to how you are ignoring the point, we'll approach it this way: when I am assured that you have re-read the guidelines especially taking note of the "courtesy and consideration" parts, then I'll take the time to consider your exclamation about signing my own posts. Or maybe I'll sidestep like you have done several times already to my points. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- Fine. I don't need to nag you about what other users here do without question. If you continue to edit here, at some point you will be reminded to follow suit with this convention. Save your inane defiance for another occasion. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 03:51, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- You are correct when you say you do not need to nag me. And you may remind to your heart's content. I say again, Kettle, 24 hours later, that your redundant rigamarole will not excuse you from your hypocrisy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- It's clear to me that WP:IDHT applies perfectly to you and that you lack all reasoning and logic; I had no involvement in writing or shaping WP:TPG, a directive from the community, and yet your refusal to sign your posts essentially boils down to "Because the first messenger told me so and I despise him". In the words of the character who spoke the line in my signature, I will no longer bandy with you, who are a colossal waste of my time, not to mention the planet's resources. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 07:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- The fact that you had to look that up is an indication of sincere psychopathic problem - where as before I may have lightheartedly attributed it to aspergers, now I see that you need help. You may sidestep the issues that I have called you out on; you may ignore all the ways that you have violated common courtesy and professionalism. And as long as you do, I'll remain here to hold up the mirror towards yourself. Courtesy and consideration. Very easy to look up. must sign your posts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- No it is a product of my excellent memory and familiarity with the lore of Tolkien, from one of the most memorable dialogues in his entire output. If you are referring to my knowledge of these Misplaced Pages tenets, that's a result of my eight years as a contributor here. I cannot stress this enough, but making judgments about someone else's character from a short, pathetic conversation such as this, OR a single edit summary intending to mock YOUR lack of professional tone (when I usually say nothing at all or give a concise, accurate summary of my edit), is more of an indication of the judge rather than the judged.
You may sidestep the issues
You have done exactly that, by continuing along the same WP:CONSENSUS-disregarding path which you trod before. The definition of insanity is using the same method ad infinitum and expecting different results. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 15:43, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- No it is a product of my excellent memory and familiarity with the lore of Tolkien, from one of the most memorable dialogues in his entire output. If you are referring to my knowledge of these Misplaced Pages tenets, that's a result of my eight years as a contributor here. I cannot stress this enough, but making judgments about someone else's character from a short, pathetic conversation such as this, OR a single edit summary intending to mock YOUR lack of professional tone (when I usually say nothing at all or give a concise, accurate summary of my edit), is more of an indication of the judge rather than the judged.
- The fact that you had to look that up is an indication of sincere psychopathic problem - where as before I may have lightheartedly attributed it to aspergers, now I see that you need help. You may sidestep the issues that I have called you out on; you may ignore all the ways that you have violated common courtesy and professionalism. And as long as you do, I'll remain here to hold up the mirror towards yourself. Courtesy and consideration. Very easy to look up. must sign your posts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- It's clear to me that WP:IDHT applies perfectly to you and that you lack all reasoning and logic; I had no involvement in writing or shaping WP:TPG, a directive from the community, and yet your refusal to sign your posts essentially boils down to "Because the first messenger told me so and I despise him". In the words of the character who spoke the line in my signature, I will no longer bandy with you, who are a colossal waste of my time, not to mention the planet's resources. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 07:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- You are correct when you say you do not need to nag me. And you may remind to your heart's content. I say again, Kettle, 24 hours later, that your redundant rigamarole will not excuse you from your hypocrisy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- Fine. I don't need to nag you about what other users here do without question. If you continue to edit here, at some point you will be reminded to follow suit with this convention. Save your inane defiance for another occasion. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 03:51, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- you are not merely "missing the point"; you are ignoring it. So rather than state the obvious as to how you are ignoring the point, we'll approach it this way: when I am assured that you have re-read the guidelines especially taking note of the "courtesy and consideration" parts, then I'll take the time to consider your exclamation about signing my own posts. Or maybe I'll sidestep like you have done several times already to my points. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisan1 (talk • contribs)
- This "it's my house so I can do whatever the hell I want" argument is nothing short of suicidal and childish. Irrespective of where you place your comments, you must sign your posts, for the bloody convenience of outsiders. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee " 08:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)