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I appreciate your writing to me. I am, in fact, myself one of the "long-time editors" you speak of, having been on Misplaced Pages for nine years, so I've been well aware of WP:BLP policy for a very long time. I'm also aware of WP:BRD, which stands for "bold, revert, discuss." Your interpretation of BLP is not universal, and to say, "This is the policy and I'm right and everyone else is wrong" really isn't the way Misplaced Pages prefers to handle differences of interpretation.

In this case, the information on the children is very reliably sourced, as the policy requires. I hope you're not suggesting that content sourced to Time Inc. publications like People and ], to networks like E!, to books, to newspapers and the Associated Press is not being reliably sourced.

Second, this information is not based on anonymous, unattributed "sources" but on official statements by the parents and their representatives themselves, who are proud and happy to introduce their children to the world — some of them even do so on the covers of magazines.

This goes to a third point: When this kind of pertinent biographical material appears widespread in reliable sources cited in the articles themselves, it's unencyclopedic to try to hide and censor information that is readily available everywhere except an encyclopedia. And that ties in to a fourth point: Any professional biographer knows that a person's family is a vital part of a subject's life and biography — and this holds true even in cases that don't involve Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin naming their child "Apple," which sheds light on those particular subjects' beliefs, preferences and personalities.

And most important: When your bold edit is reverted, you are not supposed to ] by re-reverting. You're supposed to discuss the issue on the talk page. If you disagree with the way a discussion is going, you can call for mediation or a Request for comment. But you do not edit-war to change stable articles and unilaterally declare that your way is the only way, end of discussion.

I'm going to start discussion on those three pages. I hope you will discuss. If not, we'll have to take this up with admins, I suppose. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I see you've removed talk-page comments by another editor who has an issue with your editing style. --Tenebrae (talk)

Response to edit summary here

One's children is a significant part of any person's biography; professional biographers do not leave out the names of children in books, articles, etc. And the parents themselves consider their children's names and births significant, since they themselves announce it in official statements and even on the covers of magazines, who pay the parents hundreds of thousands of dollars are more. No one would do that if the public and the parents did not consider these things significant. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

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