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Post requires more notable sources

Hi there! I'm writing a page about Cooper's Hawk Winery and Restaurants, a restaurant chain in the Midwest. Before writing, I followed formats that other restaurant chains used for their Misplaced Pages pages. While I referenced Cooper's Hawk's website a few times, I also included more outside sources from reputable websites and newspapers. In fact, the number of third-party sources I used was more than what I found for other restaurant chains.

In the end, the page was rejected, and the reasoning was because I did not include enough third party sources, and it sounded like an advertisement. I've since revised the content and taken out phrases that may seem bias, but I'm not sure what to do about the number of sources. If I add more third party sources (I have six right now), it will make the page longer, and increase the risk of it sounding like an advertisement.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! CoopersHawk (talk) 13:42, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Account Verificaction

Hello, I created my Misplaced Pages page about a month ago and I was told by someone that I have to edit random pages for a week in order to get verified by Misplaced Pages. I've been editing pages for three weeks now and yet nothing has happened. I think I was told the wrong thing to do. so how do I get my page to be verified by Misplaced Pages?Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli (talk) 13:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. When you say verified, do you mean the autoconfirmed status that allows you to edit semi protected pages? --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 13:12, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you,

By verified, I mean that when people try to search for me, lets say Google, my Misplaced Pages information/page should pop up as a search result.Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli (talk) 13:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

I found you quite easily. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 13:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
If you would like to submit User:Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli for review as an article in the encyclopedia then place {{subst:submit}} at the bottom of the page. New users can do that right away. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
thank you so much. Although, Someone just put up my page for speedy deletion. Who and Why?!Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli (talk) 13:45, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli. It's good that you're interested in Misplaced Pages and want to contribute; however, it does seem like you might be misunderstanding what Misplaced Pages is all about. It also looks like you're not quite getting what a user page is for and what kind of information is permitted to be posted on it. So, I suggest you take a look at the following articles: "What Misplaced Pages is not", "Misplaced Pages is not the place to post your résumé", "What may I not have in my user pages?" and "What may I have in my user pages?". All of these should help you better understand what you can and cannot do on Misplaced Pages. - Marchjuly (talk) 14:15, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Requesting a re-write of a section

To whom this might concern,

There is a page I've been consulting on Yugoslavian history "namely "The Balkans") which is poorly written in parts (the English used simply does not make sense in places and the sentences themselves - where they do make sense - are overly long and somewhat confusing). For example:

"Bulgaria insisted on its status quo territorial integrity, divided and shared by the Great Powers next to the Russo-Turkish War (1877–78) in other boundaries and on the pre-war Bulgarian-Serbian agreement. Provoked by the backstage deals between its former allies Serbia and Greece on allocation the spoils at the end of the First Balkan War, while it fights at the main Thracian Front, Bulgaria marks the beginning of Second Balkan War when attacked them. The Serbs and the Greeks repulse single attacks, but when the Greek army invaded Bulgaria together with an unprovoked Romanian intervention in the back, regardless of the single won battles, Bulgaria collapsed."

here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/Balkans#20th_century

How does one request a language 'tidy up' from a knowledgeable subject matter expert (SME)? I have a good command of the English language but, given I am not an SME, I feel it would be unwise for me to embark upon such an edit in case I inadvertently change the author's intended meaning.

Thank you for your time...

SteveECrane (talk) 09:54, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest?

Greetings, Teahousers. I have another basic question that I hope you can help with. I have been a member of a local astronomy club (the Astronomical Society of New South Wales) for some years. I notice that it does not have a WikiPedia page, and I would like to create one.

Provided I can support notability, etc, is there any conflict of interest being a club member? I have never been a club official, never been paid - just a regular member. Reading the guideline at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest it does not seem to fall within the strict definition, but I want to make sure I get it right. If not a direct COI, should I declare my membership somewhere for transparency? Gronk Oz (talk) 05:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome, Gronk Oz, and thanks for the question. Quoting a section of the COI policy, Any external relationship – personal, religious, political, academic, financial, and legal – can trigger a conflict of interest. How close the relationship needs to be before it becomes a concern on Misplaced Pages is governed by common sense. An article about a band should not be written by the band's manager, and a biography should not be written by the subject's spouse. But subject-matter experts are welcome to contribute to articles in their areas of expertise, while being careful to make sure that their external relationships in that field do not interfere with their primary role on Misplaced Pages. I think this addresses two parts of your question. First, yes you technically do have a mild COI as there is a relationship there outside of Misplaced Pages. Since you obviously are not here for the sole purpose of promoting the club, it comes down to the second part of the quote - does common sense tell you that you will be able to neutrally write about the topic? One challenge can be making sure that everything you write about the subject is verifiable - it can be difficult to "forget what you know" and rely on reliable sources.
If you do choose to write the article, you could consider adding Template:Connected contributor to the talk page to encourage a little extra scrutiny. If you wanted to write a draft, feel free to ping me and I can review it for you before it is moved to mainspace. VQuakr (talk) 07:48, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Great, thanks! I will do that; it will take a while to get the draft ready for review, but then I will take you up on your kind offer to review it. --Gronk Oz (talk) 08:20, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

DC Talk Album Chart

I was trying to do an album chart on the DC Talk page, but it didn't work. Can you help me? Wikiedsir (talk) 21:23, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Wikiedsir, and welcome to the Teahouse. The first big issue is that the <timeline> tag was misspelled as <timelime>. Once that is fixed, the timeline returns a couple syntax errors that need to be fixed. I'm not familiar with using the timeline tool, so I can't really help you beyond that, but hopefully someone else can help you out if you can't get it. Good luck! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 21:35, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Why was my draft declined?

I made my draft of South East Asian International Airlines (Seair-i) but it was declined. It is a new airline separate from Tigerair Philippines. Why was it declined. Maybe you could perfect it because it doesn't look right and I couldn't fix it.

From ggghhj123 Ggghhj123 (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ggghhj123. The reviewer explained that the main problem with your draft is a lack of references to independent sources required to show notability. The airline's own website is not independent. Find independent coverage and add that to the draft. Cullen Let's discuss it 19:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
But if it is a new airline, it is possible that it has not yet been written about in enough places to meet Misplaced Pages's criteria for notability; if that is the case, Ggghhj123, then Misplaced Pages cannot have an article about it yet. --ColinFine (talk) 20:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

First article - how do improve it? how do I know if it will be accepted?

I've edited a few things on Misplaced Pages before, but never drafted an article from scratch for inclusion like I have done for "Edward M Fram" - how do I know if it is "good enough" and how can I improve it? I'm trying to upload a picture for it but am unsure how to do this. Any other suggestions to make it better would be warmly received! -Ed. Edfram (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello again EdFram. Please read Referencing for beginners for instructions on proper formatting of references. Your user name indicates a possible Conflict of interest. If so, please declare it. Cullen Let's discuss it 19:08, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

uploading photos

Hello, really silly question I'm sure ... but how do I go about uploading an image (in simplest way possible please as I'm a newbie!) Thanks in advance, Ed. Edfram (talk) 18:52, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Edfram. There are some things that can't really be simplified, but I will do my best. If you took the photo yourself, and the photo is of something not subject to copyright, and you are willing to release the photo under an acceptable Creative Commons license, then it is pretty simple. Go to our sister project Wikimedia Commons, and follow the simple instructions there to upload the photo. After you upload, you will be provided with the proper wikicode that you can copy and paste into a Misplaced Pages article, to display the photo there.
However, if someone else took the photo, things get much more complicated. We need to know the subject, the date, who took it and where you found it. It is likely you can't use a copyrighted photo. Limited exceptions are described at WP:NFCI. I tried to keep it as simple as possible. Cullen Let's discuss it 19:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply - most helpful :)

I wanted to include a photo for my first article "Edward M Fram" ... the picture dates from c.1952 and it is of the person who the article is written about. It is from my family's old photo collection - can I use the "simple" upload for this in your view? Thanks Edfram (talk) 19:06, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

If you are an heir or executor authorized to freely license the photo, then proceed. Cullen Let's discuss it 19:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

guidance for academic researchers

Is it acceptable to create articles about your own research to help communicate its findings to the public (otherwise it remains locked behind paywalls?). (Ii) What makes research notable? (iii) what are the criteria that make an academic notable? Publication? A national Award? Is there any guidance?

I can see that Misplaced Pages wants more academic editors, but as yet I cannot identify specific guidance on academic editing issues. Are there any? Open Research (talk) 17:43, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

If your research has not only been officially published, but has also been the subject of substantial coverage in independent, reliable, sources, it may be suitable for an article. However, you would have a conflict of interest in presenting this - for example, you would find it difficult to present a neutral point of view if some of that coverage was critical of your research, or presented alternative scenarios. We would not, therefore, recommend that you wrote about your own research.
With regard to the notability of academics, please see Misplaced Pages:Notability (academics) - Arjayay (talk) 18:00, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Bearing in mind the conflict of interest issues raised above, it would be acceptable if you went to an article's talk page and mentioned that a new piece of academic research on the topic is available, providing relevant information. This would allow interested editors to read your work and, if warranted, integrate it into existing pages. Additionally, if you're an academic with expertise in a field, I would strongly encourage you to work on improving articles relevant to your area of interest (steering clear of citing yourself). Keihatsu

19:40, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much both. I have found this policy note about citing your own work:

'Using material you have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, includingWP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive. Citations should be in the third person and should not place undue emphasison your work. When in doubt, defer to the community's opinion'

which is helpful. Open Research (talk) 03:08, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Are decisions on changes made to articles decided by majority or seniority of editors?

Could someone please explain how the process is supposed to work?

(Article in question - https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Gun_shows_in_the_United_States#Controversies_section_heading) Thank you. Darknipples (talk) 17:18, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

@Darknipples: In a way, neither, actually! Consensus is the primary way of making decisions on Misplaced Pages. Essentially, all decisions should be made based on the input of all participating editors, with an effort to meet all legitimate concerns and make compromises if need be. In cases where things get tough, there are other venues to get third-party opinions from other experienced editors (such as third opinions, dispute resolution, and requests for comment). Essentially this means that while the majority usually matches up the consensus, it is not just a majority vote that determines decisions, nor are minority viewpoints necessarily left out. See Misplaced Pages:Consensus for details. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:35, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the input User talk:SuperHamster. Should I reach out and talk to each editor/watcher listed for this page, or just wait for a certain period of time for all of them to comment? If a compromise cannot be reached, we will use one of the options you mentioned to resolve the issue. Thank you! Darknipples (talk) 17:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
No problem! Eh, I haven't read the discussion, but it seems to be rolling along and getting more than sufficient input. There doesn't look like a need to call for input from other editors at the moment. It's been less than a day, after all.
As a side note, as far as I'm aware, you can't tell what users have a page watchlisted. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 18:10, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I have written my first article, but am unsure if I've done it correctly.

Could someone please take a look at the article I've written about the painter "Richard Earl Thompson". It's my first article and I'm not sure if I'm missing anything I need to include or if I'm formatting correctly. I would like to have an info box in top right, but I'm not sure how to do it.

Thank You, Jet 16:26, 23 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jet1950 (talk • contribs)

From a quick look, it seems to be like quite a promising draft. One suggestion relates to the tone of the article. It's very nicely written, but on Misplaced Pages we aim for very factual, dispassionate language. So in the introductory paragraph, for instance, you might want to trim down the more visual or emotive language, or details that are not immediately relevant. I would eliminate the interjection about World War I, the stock market collapse, shifts in general attitudes in society, etc. Also, things like "his works are meditations on nature's harmonious perfection, which he visualized in his mind's eye and refined on canvas" is not really appropriate to put in Misplaced Pages's voice. If a reviewer has said these things, you could quote the reviewer, but the encyclopedic voice must be more detached.
I also noticed that you have many references that repeat. You can solve this problem by naming a reference, rather than spelling the whole thing out each time. See citation guidelines for details. Good luck! Keihatsu 17:03, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your help Keihatsu. I will try to change the tone as you suggest. Much of the language was from the articles written about him that I have referenced. I referenced his biography many times because I thought it was necessary when using information from the book. How often do I need to reference the book?

I really appreciate your help. Jet 18:02, 23 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jet1950 (talk • contribs)

Hello, Jet. Ideally, every piece of information about the topic should be referenced to a source; so any paragraph without a reference is suspect (except in the lede to the article, which usually summarises material from elsewhere in the article); and in some passages every sentence should have a reference. As Keihatsu said, you can use named references to do this (and I've replaced Keihatsu's URL above by a wikilink to the section). You probably want to reference different pages within the same source, and you can use the template {{rp}} to do this. --ColinFine (talk) 19:37, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

VxWorks editing question

I have been updating VxWorks and now I get a message that the article has many disambiguous links but when I check it says there are none??Robpater (talk) 13:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Robpater. That link is added with the {{dablinks|date=June 2014}} text at the top of the article. If it no longer applies, you can remove it :) Sam Walton (talk) 13:36, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robpater (talk • contribs) 13:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

How do I delete an upload in progress?

The page appears but I have not saved it. I accidentally selected a version of my article without a photo. Can I add the photo later, or can I delete the current unsaved version and upload a pdf with the photo? Kmillett (talk) 12:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kmillett, and welcome to the tea house. I'm afraid I'm not quite catching the meaning of your question. Did you try to create a new page, but forgot to upload a photo? If so, don't worry—everything here can be done iteratively. You can save the page, then click edit again to add a photo or any other additional information you'd like. If ever you create a file or a page but then change your mind and want it to be deleted, just add {{db-g7}} to the top and an administrator will delete it for you.Keihatsu 14:04, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Help with Jesse Rose page

Hi,

I am writing on behalf of the management of Jesse Rose and the article that was written for Jesse Rose was declined. Can somebody please help me and give me some feedback why this was declined? We want to get the page up as soon as possible. Jesse Rose is a DJ/producer and he has been around for a while so there are enough sources and references. https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Jesse_Rose

Sean.holbrook (talk) 09:20, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sean.holbrook and welcome (back?) to the Teahouse. Your article was declined because it does not reach the required threshold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages. To establish that the topic is notable, you need to show significant coverage in reliable independent sources. At the moment you have two references, one of which is a blog post and doesn't count towards notability. You need to find more people who have written that Jesse Rose deserves attention. You also appear to have a conflict of interest if you are representing Jesse Rose's management - please also read this guideline. Good luck! Philg88  09:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi [[User:Philg88| Thank you for the reply. I am not actually working for the management. It is more like a learning project. I tried to write it as neutral as possible. The two sources I used, I took it from another wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/Electro_house#cite_note-guardian-29 So you recommend to add more sources?

Sean.holbrook (talk) 09:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

@Sean.holbrook:. Yes, you need to find more sources according to the criteria I described above.  Philg88  12:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Sean. I'm afraid it does not make any difference whether you are working for them at present or not: you have told us enough to show that you have a conflict of interest. That doesn't meant that you may not work on the article, but you need to be very very cautious, and make sure you follow the suggested practice for editors with a conflict of interest. One more point: you may want to get the article up as soon as possible: Misplaced Pages does not. Misplaced Pages wants to get as good an article as possible (which includes the possibility of no article at all, if sufficient independent sources do not exist) and doesn't care how long that takes: see there is no deadline. To me (and I suspect many other editors) when I see somebody saying they want to get an article up as soon as possible, especially if they are connected with the subject, I immediately suspect that they are here for the purpose of promotion, which is explicitly forbidden on Misplaced Pages. My suggestion would be that you collect independent reliable sources for Jesse Rose, and if you think there are enough to ground an article, submit a request via requested articles, and leave it for somebody else to write when they choose. Then if you would like to help us improve Misplaced Pages, there are many other articles you can work on where you haven't got a conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 15:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of article

Would like the know the procedure for requesting deletion of Indore - Chandigarh Express as the article has been written about a train that had not been introduced when the article was written and has significant shortcomings. Superfast1111 (talk) 05:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Superfast1111. You say that the train "had not been introduced when the article was written", which implies that the train is running now. Do you know? The first solution to an article with outdated information is to improve and update the article. If you have the knowledge and the interest, I encourage you to do so. If you are convinced that the topic is not notable, then please follow the instructions at Articles for deletion. Cullen Let's discuss it 05:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
This announcement from the railway company said that service was to begin in early April, 2014. Cullen Let's discuss it 05:59, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

True but was it fair to create an article in February 2013 for a service that is introduced in April 2014 & expecting some other editor to clean up / suitably edit the article to a decent standard. Why should credit of an article creation go to a fake article? Superfast1111 (talk) 07:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

@Superfast1111: WP:FUTURE outlines our policy on articles about things that have yet to come. Essentially, articles on future things are acceptable as long as they are notable and are almost certain to take place. Just because something hasn't taken place yet doesn't necessarily mean it's not worthy of an article, nor does it make it "fake" or anything of that sort. The way I like to look at it is if the future event were to be cancelled, it would still have received enough coverage to be notable enough for Misplaced Pages.
As for the "credit of an article creation", I'm not sure what the issue is there. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative encyclopedia, and nothing is stopping anyone from improving the article now that it needs updating. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 07:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
@Superfast1111: I've added two references to the article. Whereever possible, it's always best to try to find references rather than consider deletion an option.  Philg88  07:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

want to add two header rows to a two-column format

Hi,

I'm trying to set up a double column to show the name of an office-holder in one column, and the years of service in the second column. I've found out how to do that.

However, I would also like to have two header rows that span both columns, to have the name of the office in the top row, and some detail about the office in the second row.

Is this possible to do (without much knowledge of formatting)?

Here's what I would like it to look like: List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States by seat. I looked at the code for those columns, though, and there seems to be a lot of data built into them, so I can't just use them as a template.

Thanks!

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:10, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mr Serjeant Buzfuz. It sounds like you want the below which uses colspan="2". See more at Help:Table. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
A
B
C1 C2
D1 D2
E1 E2
HI, PrimeHunter. Thanks for the response. However, I'm not sure a table will work, because I want to list several officer-holders, like the example of the US Supreme Court justices. That article displays 3 or 4 columns side-by-side. Is it possible to have 3 or 4 tables side-by-side? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:35, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz:You can put tables side by side by essentially putting those tables within another table. A simpler way to do this, though, is to use the col-templates, as the Supreme Court Justices example does. See the example usage for an idea of how it works. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 08:20, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that's why I initially asked about using columns. But, I still don't know how to have a single cell at the top of a two-column display, the same as the Supreme Court justices example does. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 20:28, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Look at the code I used above. If this is not the table layout you want then please explain the difference. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

How do I site a source?

I'm having a lot of trouble siting my sources. I have still done the ref thing. Can someone help me?

Spacedude3000 (talk) 18:34, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Spacedude3000, and welcome to the Teahouse! To cite a source, just add this next to the passage you're citing:
<ref>Your citation here</ref>
Next, go to the bottom of the page, add a section called "References", and then add {{Reflist}} there. Very simple!
If you have any further questions, you can check out the page about citations, or just ask again here. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 18:41, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Another useful resource, Spacedude3000, is Referencing for beginners. Cullen Let's discuss it 23:37, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Creating my first page on Misplaced Pages

Hi, I work in the tourism business in Ireland. I see several instances where I could add pages to Misplaced Pages. I tried to create my first page some time back to learn the process. I found the experience frustrating. I will have another go and see how it goes. I felt there should be a simple template for novices to add basic pages. Possible more experienced editors could then add to the pages..... just my experience. Poshpaddy (talk) 18:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Poshpaddy! Welcome to the teahouse. Thank you for letting us know about your experience. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:11, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello Poshpaddy. I think the page Your First Article might help you in creating new pages. Of course, wiki-markup scares a lot of newcomers, so that's what the Teahouse is here for! And you're more than welcome to fool around with the code at the sandbox. Once you get used to the markup language, you'd be amazed at how much we can do with it. Happy editing! --k6ka (talk | contribs) 18:34, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Welcome to the Teahouse, Poshpaddy. Another good resource for people learning how to write articles here is A Primer for beginners. Cullen Let's discuss it 20:14, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Requesting assessment

Is there any place where you can request quality assessments for particular articles? Obviously, GA and FA articles have specific reviews but I'd like to know whether articles - particularly articles I've created - are Start-class or C-class or B-class etc.

I suppose if there's a particular article I have in mind, it would be Goodgame Studios (presumably start/stub) or The Mother (How I Met Your Mother character). But very few of articles created by me have been rated, and I'd imagine there's some rule against rating articles you've created or worked substantially on. Bilorv (Contribs) 17:23, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I normally rate an article I've worked on as C-class if I think it's appropriate. I wouldn't rate an article I've worked on as B-class or higher; it wouldn't really be appropriate (though I don't think there are specific rules about it).
The best way, perhaps, is to add the article to appropriate WikiProjects, and if it hasn't been rated there yet, it will be eventually, by the members of that WikiProject. If it already has a rating at that WikiProject, you could ask at the WikiProject for it to be re-rated? Some have particular processes for this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:14, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

What to do with an IP's userpage

I noticed a completely non-notable article being created on an IP's userpage - User:86.40.242.105. The page was created by Dncollins17 and not the IP.

If this article was located in the main namespace, I'd know what to do - tag with {{db-a7}}. But the template only applies for articles in the main namespace, and Twinkle reminded me by not showing me the option to tag the page as such.

What would I do in this situation? The article wasn't even made by the IP - what deletion template should I use?

Thanks in advance. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 16:22, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I just tagged it csd U5...not a webhost violation. That should do it, but an admin might have a different idea. John from Idegon (talk) 16:33, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Just curious.

Sometimes when I just roam the Misplaced Pages on a Sunday morning walk I come across a small text on some pages saying "Mark this page as patrolled". What is that? Is it an indication that I should do something. - W.carter (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:New pages patrol/patrolled pages - you don't have to do anything, in which case the same box will appear to the next patrolling editor who views the page.
However, if the page looks "appropriate for Misplaced Pages, even if it requires significant work" you can mark it as patrolled, or you can propose it for deletion, or, if it needs certain work, you can tag it with the appropriate tag(s). - Arjayay (talk) 16:22, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Changing user name' capitalization

How do I change the capitalization of my user name? When I originally signed up as a member, I did not capitalize my user name. Misplaced Pages automatically capitalized it. How do I un-capitalize it?

data (talk) 21:31, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi data, welcome to the Teahouse. The first character of user names is automatically capitalized. I see you have found how to customize your signature. You can place {{lowercase title}} on User:Ltcomdata and User talk:Ltcomdata to display the page heading in lower case, but that is all you can do. Logs like user contributions and page histories will always show it in upper case. You can type the name in lower case when you log in but others will not see what you typed. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:27, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you user:PrimeHunter. I suppose I cannot change the capitalization of any non-initial characters either? data (talk) 23:05, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Only the first character is automatically capitalized. The others are as they were entered at account creation. Changes can be requested at Misplaced Pages:Changing username. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! data (talk) 23:49, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

create new article

How to create an article including a 13-page booklet? Thx Stuart roche44 (talk) 18:10, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Stuart. I'm afraid you'll have to be more explicit. What 13-page booklet, and why? I confess I can't think of any circumstances in which this would be appropriate to a Misplaced Pages article, but if you clarify what you are trying to do, somebody can advise you here. --ColinFine (talk) 21:29, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Soundtrack deleted on Commons.

Hi, I uploaded the Main menu theme of the first person shooter computer game Unreal Tournament 2004 to Commons, if everyone can download it on Kevin Riepl's soundcloud profile, one of the UT2004 composers, why was it deleted?.Krokuss (talk) 15:19, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

@Krokuss: Welcome to the Teahouse. Simply put, uploading soundtracks to commons violates copyright. All commons media is under the CC-BY-SA (or an even freer license). This essentially means that anyone can take the said soundtrack and use it however they want, even to make money. They can even modify it as long as their new work is also under the CC-BY-SA. Such a license is also permanent and irrevocable. Soundtracks are almost never under this license, so the one that you uploaded is a copyright violation. Also, bear in mind that being free to access doesn't mean free to reuse. --Jakob (talk) 15:42, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Can I remove AfD template?

I want to convert an article that is currently under AfD to a redirect. Of course, that means I have to replace all the content with a redirect template. But then I would be removing the AfD template from the article, which is prohibited for a non-admin. How do I get out of this knot? Jayakumar RG (talk) 09:01, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Now that the discussion is underway, it would be best to propose the redirect in the AfD discussion rather than doing it immediately. --LukeSurl 10:52, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

I recieved an error while trying to replace a citation

I am having trouble understanding how to properly replace an old citation with a more relevant one. Specifically, "The named reference".

Link to the page with the error - https://en.wikipedia.org/Gun_shows_in_the_United_States#Notes_and_references

Darknipples (talk) 04:42, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Darknipples. We have a way of defining a reference once, and then using it multiple times in an article, by using "ref name=" in the wikicode. In this case, a master reference was defined as "Clinton pushes Congress to pass new gun control legislation". Probably what happened was that a reference was created with that name, and used several times in the article. During the course of editing over time, the master reference was deleted, but not the secondary use of the reference. So, there are two solutions: restore the master reference from the article history if it is a solid reference, or delete the secondary use of the reference. Because articles related in any way to gun control legislation are highly controversial and subject to ArbCom restrictions, I recommend caution, and that you raise the matter on the article's talk page first. Cullen Let's discuss it 05:07, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

"restore the master reference from the article history if it is a solid reference, or delete the secondary use of the reference."

I am unaware as to how to do either of these, as I am a novice. Any suggestions on where to obtain step by step instructions for accomplishing either of these two options?

"Because articles related in any way to gun control legislation are highly controversial and subject to ArbCom restrictions, I recommend caution, and that you raise the matter on the article's talk page first."

How do I access the article's talk page? Thank you for your help. Your advice is very appreciated. I love wikipedia and wish to learn how to contribute properly. Thank you! Darknipples (talk) 06:02, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, Darknipples. Please read Referencing for beginners for the basics of how references are formatted.
When you are reading any Misplaced Pages article, there will be a menu bar at the top of the page. One of the choices will be called "Talk". Clicking on "Talk" will take you to another, behind the scenes, page. That is where editors interested in that page discuss possible changes to improve the article. Because you are a novice, I am willing to make the correction for you. Or you can try it yourself. Just let us know. The main thing I want you to understand is that you are welcome to make positive changes to any article here. Your input is appreciated, and we want you to edit. But I also want you to know that editing in highly controversial areas can be tough at times. Kind of like stepping into a boxing ring for the first time, although the punches are verbal rather than physical. I want you to be prepared, and I hope that you will continue editing here. Please feel free to return to the Teahouse with questions at any time, or ask on my talk page. Five years ago, I was in your shoes as a complete beginner, and I was grateful to get a friendly welcome. I wish you well. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:36, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
To find the reference in the history, you click on "History" or "View history" at the top of the page and pick some arbitrary date and see if the reference had all the needed information on that date. If it doesn't, you would want to search earlier if the reference was already deleted or later if it hadn't been included at all yet.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions •
21:42, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Logo Images

I have updated a logo that represents VxWorks and completed the form but got a message that there was a problem. Mt attempts have been deleted. I am not sure how I am suppose to tag this image to make it acceptable.Robpater (talk) 18:16, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Robpater, it appears that it was deleted because it's the same as "File:VxWorks symbol by Wind River Systems.png". --AmaryllisGardener 18:21, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks AmaryllisGardener. How do I access it when I want to use it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robpater (talk • contribs) 21:35, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

@Robpater: Like this: ]. Just be careful, and follow the guidelines about fair use. --AmaryllisGardener 21:41, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

best way to find articles that need edits, that also match my interests

My interests are as follows: US politics, economics, fantasy and science fiction, sustainable development, social media, biology, and internet culture. What's the best way to quickly find articles in my interest area that need my help? I want to edit other people's articles for awhile before writing my own article.

NerdGirl1988 (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi NerdGirl1988 and welcome back to the Teahouse. I don't think that anyone could accuse you of having too narrow a set of interests! You might like to join some of the WP:Wikiprojects associated with these topics - a couple to start you off - Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Science Fiction, WP:Wikiproject Politics. There is a complete list here. You should find plenty of like-minded people at the projects you choose and plenty of scope for your talents. Good luck!  Philg88  19:18, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Welcome to the teahouse NerdGirl1988. Another tool you might want to check out is User:SuggestBot SuggestBot can look at your edit history and can give you suggestions for articles that need work and that match your interests based on your edit history. For example, I've edited a lot of articles on Information Technology, OOP, and AI so the last time I asked SuggestBot for suggestions it gave me those kinds of articles as you can see on my talk page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:MadScientistX11#Articles_you_might_like_to_edit.2C_from_SuggestBot The more you edit the more SuggestBot has to work with and gives you better suggestions. I think there is also a way to "seed" SuggestBot by asking it to give you ideas and giving it one or more categories to look at. The documentation explains all that, it's very easy to use. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 14:04, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Depends on how you want to drive it. Are you looking for articles you're interested in? Articles needing help the most? Or content that you have to offer?
The suggestions that you've been given so far are good. They're mostly about overlapping interest. If you look at things like "vital articles" lists (and asking on projects can be helpful) then you might also find great lists of articles that have been started but aren't at the quality that their significance really warrants.
Another approach, which is how I generally work, is to ignore WP and just read stuff elsewhere. Then when I discover the fascinating history of the left-handed monkey wrench, I check to see if monkey wrench is already covering this, and if not I add it. The advantages to this are primarily that it encourages me to carefully read cover-to-cover the vast number of interesting books I've bought over the years, but still haven't opened. Secondly, when I'm adding the content to WP, I already have good sources ready to hand. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:24, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Tool to order citations numerically

Hi! I was wondering if there was a tool to order the citations at the end of a sentence from: "I like pancakes." to "I like pancakes. Thanks! Bananasoldier (talk) 13:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse, Bananasoldier! I don't believe there is a tool for that, but we have some very talented coders around here on Misplaced Pages who I'm sure would be willing to make one and help improve the editing experience. Happy editing! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 19:37, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
@Bananasoldier: Hi. It seems that I'm a bit late, but there's a very simple way to do this. If we have <ref name = "ref32"/><ref name = "ref15"/><ref name = "ref9"/>, then we can change this to <ref name = "ref9"/><ref name = "ref15"/><ref name = "ref32"/> to produce your desired output. --Jakob (talk) 13:31, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

How do I find a volunteer to have a wiki page edited, updated, and written better? Thanks

How does one go about having a wiki page improved i.e. adding a photo, improve the writing and information as well as update? It's a bout a race car driver. Thanks!190.238.199.210 (talk) 21:49, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome (back?) to the Teahouse 190.238.199.210! You can't necessarily get someone to "volunteer" to have a wiki page edited, but you can get someone from the Guild of Copy Editors to improve your articles' writing, like you said. Maybe some more experienced Wikipedians know if there are "volunteers" on Misplaced Pages. Cheers! WooHoo! • Talk to BrandonWu! 00:13, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, you can do it yourself if you have the time, suitable reference material, and the inclination. One of the strengths of Misplaced Pages is that all sorts of people can contribute to it. Click the "Edit" tab at the top of the page you want to change, then "Show preview" once you're done to be sure it worked like you intended before Saving your changes. Registering as a user is optional, but recommended. Need help? Click on the "Help" link at left, or of course you can ask here... --Gronk Oz (talk) 07:05, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
@190.238.199.210: Post on the reward board. An experienced Wikipedian might offer to help you. Chris Troutman (talk) 10:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
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