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Part of the Syrian civil war
Should we include the U. S. intervention as part of the Syrian civil war? It sure will have an impact on the conduct of war. The ISIS will probably be weakened, which will affect the strength of both the Assad's government and the rebels. Although the USA isn't on any side, they are involved in the civil war. --Anulmanul (talk) 02:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- It seems to me we should keep it the same way that it is in the American intervention in Iraq page. That has worked out fine so far. SantiLak (talk) 02:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Merge or split?
This article is closely tied with the 2014 military intervention against ISIS which already has its own independent section on Iraq with information about it. I believe this article should be merged with the section on Syria. --Acetotyce (talk) 02:21, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I think that's a good idea but we should make clear which allies are involved in bombings in which countries because the arab countries are only involved in syria so far and France is only involved in Iraq. Let's see what a couple of others have to say as well before acting. A little extra input can't hurt. SantiLak (talk) 02:25, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I was going to create a new section in the talk page, then I saw your comment. I'm going to suggest keeping this article and letting the other article be focused on Iraq. David O. Johnson (talk) 02:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I completely understand. This is pretty recent, and only a few hours ago there was a debate as to what the name would be for the 2014 military intervention against ISIS article until the airstikes took place and then it was renamed. As more countries in the coalition start playing more of a significant role it will be evident whether this article stays separate or not. If most arab countries stay focused in Syria then this article should indeed stay. --Acetotyce (talk) 02:32, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, let's see how it play's out in the next day or so until we can get more information. SantiLak (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Should we just duplicate the same info across both articles for now? David O. Johnson (talk) 02:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- It is really already duplicated but I just had added little bits of other information on this one. There really is so little information so far that ya we should but I think we should still keep the article. SantiLak (talk) 03:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I feel somewhat comfortable leaving this article. Now that the 2014 military intervention against ISIS has a very broad scope, this article (and others) will need to be split off it as it grows. ~Technophant (talk) 03:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I fully support the merge now that the 2014 American intervention in Iraq has been freshly renamed . While there the Iraq conflict and Syria Civil War are part of the backdrop, this is all about fighting ISIL regardless of borders. Canada, France, Australia, and now Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan all directly involved, plus all the other countries shipping aid. We need to view this war as everyone vs ISIL not an American intervention in named countries.Legacypac (talk) 03:18, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I understand what you are saying but it seems to me that we should let the situation play out and see if the strikes on Syria become something larger because we don't know now whether they will turn out to be a far larger military campaign in Syria than there was in Iraq. I think we should hold off on deciding whether to merge until we see what happens. SantiLak (talk) 03:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Although I support the merge, but let's wait for few days. The intervention has just begun, and we do not know what will turn out in the end... --Anulmanul (talk) 03:28, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I understand what you are saying but it seems to me that we should let the situation play out and see if the strikes on Syria become something larger because we don't know now whether they will turn out to be a far larger military campaign in Syria than there was in Iraq. I think we should hold off on deciding whether to merge until we see what happens. SantiLak (talk) 03:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I fully support the merge now that the 2014 American intervention in Iraq has been freshly renamed . While there the Iraq conflict and Syria Civil War are part of the backdrop, this is all about fighting ISIL regardless of borders. Canada, France, Australia, and now Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan all directly involved, plus all the other countries shipping aid. We need to view this war as everyone vs ISIL not an American intervention in named countries.Legacypac (talk) 03:18, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I feel somewhat comfortable leaving this article. Now that the 2014 military intervention against ISIS has a very broad scope, this article (and others) will need to be split off it as it grows. ~Technophant (talk) 03:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- It is really already duplicated but I just had added little bits of other information on this one. There really is so little information so far that ya we should but I think we should still keep the article. SantiLak (talk) 03:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Should we just duplicate the same info across both articles for now? David O. Johnson (talk) 02:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, let's see how it play's out in the next day or so until we can get more information. SantiLak (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I completely understand. This is pretty recent, and only a few hours ago there was a debate as to what the name would be for the 2014 military intervention against ISIS article until the airstikes took place and then it was renamed. As more countries in the coalition start playing more of a significant role it will be evident whether this article stays separate or not. If most arab countries stay focused in Syria then this article should indeed stay. --Acetotyce (talk) 02:32, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I was going to create a new section in the talk page, then I saw your comment. I'm going to suggest keeping this article and letting the other article be focused on Iraq. David O. Johnson (talk) 02:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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