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October 26

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 26, 2014.

Caitlin snow

• Caitlin snow → Killer Frost (links to redirect • history • stats)     
• Caitlin Snow → Killer Frost  (links · history · stats)      

Both are redirects to a specific version of a comic book character. The first is essentially redundant as typing in the name using any capitalization version yields the same result. It also does not currently point directly from use in an article, only from and ANI thread and copy of that thread. This redirect is unneeded and should be deleted. The second is only linked to various Ironman competition articles which list "Caitlin Snow" as a competitor. The redirect as it currently stands results in an incorrect linkage of subjects. Given the ambiguity over which Caitlin Snow a reader could be looking for, this redirect should be moved to either Caitlin Snow (comics) (preferred dabbing based on the Comics WikiProject) or Caitlin Snow (character) (the comic book character has been adapted for use in a television series) and Caitlin Snow reserved for a possible dab page. This would also imply that the links in the 2009-2014 Ironman World Championship and 2010-2014 Ironman 70.3 World Championship pages (11 in total) be changed to pont to Caitlin Snow (athlete). - J Greb (talk) 14:01, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• Obvious keep and disambiguate if necessary. This is what redirects are for. --NE2 14:20, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
  • For clarity: I am suggesting Caitlin Snow as it currently is get moved. Caitlin snow is redundant even if moved and should be deleted. Frankly, since the search algorithm here and through places like Google are case insensitive, two essentially identical redirects should never have been created at the same time. - J Greb (talk) 15:19, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
    • I agree that Caitlin snow is redundant. I don't think there's any need for Caitlin Snow (character), at least not until The Flash tv show runs on longer (as was the case with characters from Smallville). I don't know if every athlete is deserving of recognition per WP:BIO, but I won't argue if the majority want Caitlin Snow to be a disambiguation page that includes a mentioning of the Ironman competitor Caitlin Snow.--Valkyrie Red (talk) 16:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
      • To be honest I'm looking at (character) based on 1) the situation with Wolverine (character) and 2) at this pint "Caitlin Snow" as far as DC Comics related material covers the comic book character, with 12 appearances which include uses as a background character, and the TV character, with 4 appearances to date most of which are as a core character. (character) is looking down the road.
        As for the athlete it's more a case of something that was in place prior to the redirects. At this point a non-dabbed redirect creates confusion at a minimum. The editors that created the Ironman Championship pages operated on good faith that the competitors could/should justify pages at a later date. I don't see anything here, or inherent in the fictional character at this point, that would point to removing the links and just serving the character. - J Greb (talk) 17:33, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Strange Tales (pulp magazines)

• Strange Tales (pulp magazines) → Strange Tales (pulp magazine) (links to redirect • history • stats)      

This redirect results from a good faith move which has now been reversed. There are not two pulp magazines with this title; there's a pulp and a digest, and they now each have their own article. This is not something that could be plausibly entered as a search. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:06, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• keep or disambiguate. That there was a good faith move to this title indicates that this is something that could be plausibly entered as a search. I am unfamiliar with the subject area and wouldn't know the difference between a pulp magazine and a digest. I wouldn't know whether they were covered in one article or two. The only question is whether someone searching this title will be better served by a dab page or by being taken to the article about the singular magazine and following a hatnote or link in the lead to the other if that is what they are wanting. I'm leaning towards the latter, but I'm open to arguments to the contrary. Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

  I don't really have a strong opinion on this; my main concern was to separate the pulp magazine from the digest. For what it's worth, here are my thoughts. I don't think the move indicates that someone could plausibly search using this string; aside from the fact that the parenthesized disambiguation strings are rarely used in searches, to enter that string you'd have to know that at least one of the magazines was a pulp magazine, and to enter the full string including the "s" on the end you'd have to believe there are more than one. Anyone actually entering "Strange Tales (pulp magazine)" to search would surely search for that, and not add the "s". Per WP:2DABS I don't think a dab page is necessary. I think the current hatnotes are good enough; they're short, concise, and accurate. But I'm willing to defer to others who spend more time reviewing redirects than I do. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:23, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

H de Kantzow

• H de Kantzow → Cathay Pacific (links to redirect • history • stats)      

No idea what this is supposed to mean, certainly not related to the target - TheChampionMan1234 08:59, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• If you had taken 1 minute WP:BEFORE nominating you would understand exactly what this is about and how it is related to the target. "Sydney H. de Kantzow", AKA Sydney de Kantzow was the founder of Cathay Pacific. This is a surprisingly well used redirect so retarget to the biography. Thryduulf (talk) 10:55, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

United States of Venezuela

• United States of Venezuela → Venezuela (links to redirect • history • stats)      

Implausibe search term, there are also many such redirects here - TheChampionMan1234 08:53, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• retarget. According to our articles, the term was used (interchangeably with others) for both the First Republic of Venezuela and the Second Republic of Venezuela. It gets only a passing mention in the article about the First Republic, with which it is perhaps more associated, and a slightly more prominent mention in the article about the second republic. It is not mentioned in the broader History of Venezuela article, which deals with both of these republics, so I'm not sure what the best target is. I'll ping the WikiProject to get their thoughts. Thryduulf (talk) 10:43, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Some indian facts

• Some indian facts → India (links to redirect • history • stats)      

Implausible search term and misleading taregt. - TheChampionMan1234 08:52, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• Retarget to Outline of India which contains facts about India. I wouldn't have thought that this was a useful search term, but the stats show that that it is actually used by around 15 people a month. Thryduulf (talk) 10:35, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Fact sheet on India

• Fact sheet on India → India (links to redirect • history • stats)      

Implausible search term and misleading target - TheChampionMan1234 08:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• Retarget to Outline of India which is a page of facts about India. Thryduulf (talk) 10:33, 26 October 2014 (UTC)