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New editor Wikicology
Hi Demiurge1000. Did you have a look at the latest article he had written? It seems fairly reliable on first glance but not when you actually start to research it. I normally don't "mentor" editors here and to be honest, I really have no wish to do so either. I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. Is this more your thing perhaps or should someone else take over the situation? I feel very sorry for Wikicology because, as was mentioned by Stalwart, Wikicology is an enthusiastic believer in this whole Misplaced Pages project and it would be a pity to not find a place for this editor to exhibit whatever talents they have. Unfortunately, writing articles seems more "miss" than "hit". - Takeaway (talk) 23:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Takeaway: I haven't had time to look at the article, but I am willing to trust your summary of the situation. This kind of thing is very difficult. As you point out, enthusiasm at this level is important and not something to be thrown away, but there are major difficulties. A very heavy mentoring scheme would work (I have made it work before), but I don't have time to take that on, and there is a serious shortage of people who could or would.
- Incidentally, technically speaking you may be half right; there are non-English languages used within Nigeria, and different parts of the population are likely to be more fluent in those than in English. This doesn't really help much, though; it may be that Wikicology is fluent in the "broken English" that our article on the subject rather insultingly suggests is widespread, but there is no Broken English Misplaced Pages either. We could perhaps encourage him to concentrate on translating English Misplaced Pages articles to different Nigerian local languages? But perhaps not for us to say.
- You have been very generous and diligent in helping the situation, but you should probably disengage on Wikicology's talk page because (I haven't looked recently but) there is probably nothing good to come out of that conversation now. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- After today's interaction, I wasn't planning on commenting on his talk page any longer. I don't think that there is much more that I can say to him than what has been said already there and on the ANI page. I thank you for expressing your trust in my summary of the whole issue. I wish it were different but unfortunately, things are as they are. Regards, Takeaway (talk) 22:49, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Misinterpreting each other at the Teahouse
I apologize for my words. I chose them poorly. My only meaning was that we should treat people with dignity and courtesy at Misplaced Pages. I did not make that clear, and it is no one's fault but my own that my comments were not chosen correctly. I didn't mean to imply that YOU were doing anything wrong, or that YOU were boorish or anything like that. Far from it, you're consistently one of the most respectful people here. My only point was that too many people at Misplaced Pages believe that they can act unprofessionally (and by that I mean boorish rude; and again, not YOU. Just people who are boorish and rude) and treat it like other people's problem. My only meaning of acting professionally is to accord others dignity and courtesy and to treat them in a way that is inviting rather than hostile. I hope that my words this time make my meaning clearer. And again, that we're having this conversation together doesn't mean that I think you are guilty of any of those things. My intent here is to talk with you about the topic, not at you as though you did anything wrong. You didn't. I certainly did, and I am entirely sorry for that. --Jayron32 21:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Jayron, thank you for this, it makes me feel a lot better. (I am well aware of how much you help others not just at the Teahouse but also at the Reference Desks.) I have been rather insistent on this topic because I have a problem with the word and how it is (sometimes) used on Misplaced Pages, and I think my somewhat strident (and in any case tangential) remarks have clashed with your rightly strong feelings about how it is important to act responsibly on Misplaced Pages. Despite your kind words, I am probably not the very most respectful or polite of people at the Teahouse (maybe I come in the top 20?), and I can certainly be abrasive outside the Teahouse. However, over time I have realised the value the Teahouse has, and I have adapted my earlier reluctant following of the "Teahouse rules", to a rather more willing promotion of its values.
- I'm a little too mechanistic in my approach to such things, but one of the ways I try to keep Misplaced Pages a little more professional (however one defines the term) is that help desk and Teahouse enquiries and the like should not be lingering two or three days without an answer. This sort of thing makes a big difference to how outsiders perceive how much we care about them - and therefore the likelihood of their involvement or support of Misplaced Pages. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Sitush block
I'm curious - did you actually feel threatened? I'm sure you know about the ANI discussion. Dougweller (talk) 19:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- In reviewing the comment made to Sitush , I can't see how was inflaming or baiting in any way. I don't understand the angry response to it. Perhaps there's some baggage between Demiurge and Sitush of which I am not aware. JoeSperrazza (talk) 13:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- @JoeSperrazza:Possibly, but I don't believe that Demiurge took it seriously and Sitush has assured me that he never meant it as anything more than figurative - he wasn't threateneing violence.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs)
- It's a little more complicated than that, and it would not be accurate to say I did not take it seriously. The threat did have a significant chilling effect (in more ways than one), but it didn't have me phoning up the police - which is what one should do if one is in real fear of immediate physical danger.
- I will perhaps have time to expand on that properly at some point, but I ought to say here that, following information relayed to me within the last hour, from my perspective a re-instatement of the block now would no longer serve a preventative purpose. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:50, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
About a username
I believe it's "Lithistman" (as in "literature" and "history"—see his talkpage), not "Listhitman." Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 03:50, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- Egads, I of all people should have spotted that. The tone and volume of his comments eclipsed any thought of a diligent scholar poring over well-worn texts of Cicero, and instead had me assuming some impetuous individual with a witty transposition in the style of User:Ragesoss (not that Sage is impetuous, though). Having "DIE" in big letters as part of a major feature of the user page is an unfortunate coincidence too.
- Thanks, I will go and find out if my comment is still somewhere it can be struck. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Startup
Hi Demiurge1000. You were kind enough to help me with the article that had been written about my company youngStartup Ventures.
I've since put up a lot of information about the company from third party sources on the talk page, but I see that there hasn't been much movement in the content. What can be done about that now? Thank you, Joe Joe Benjamin (talk) 20:09, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Neutrality Flag on page
Hi Demiurge1000, you kindly added a flag on the wikipedia page on myself I just updated, the flag signalling issues with neutrality. If you kindly look at the talk page you will see that the original page had many inaccuracies and I cut it down considerably. I merely edited it to comply with standards. Can we remove this flag? The latest edit that triggered the flag is due to the inline citations I added to comply with the previous flag. It does sound bad to have a flag on neutrality on top of the page, it looks like I created the page for my own benefit and this is not the case really. Let me know if you have any objection on the removal of the flag. Thanks. Damiano (talk) 18:29, 23 September 2014 (GMT) PS Thank you for your quick response, much appreciated. Damiano — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damianobrigo (talk • contribs) 17:21, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
WikiProject Military history coordinator election
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Islamic Human Rights Commision
Dear Demiurge1000, I have undid your deletion on the above titled page as it was neutral and had a greater level of neutrality than the previous pages. If you disagree with this please create a new section under the talk section of that page to bring it open to wider debate. 188.220.118.149 (talk) 21:17, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Dear Demiurge1000, THIS IS A NOTICE TO CEASE AND DESIST YOUR EDIT WARRING
Please refer to the three-revert rule states: An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert. Violations of the rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as an edit-warring violation. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Edit_warring
The edit that was made is not personal commentary from myself but information given under oath to the home office select committee. It is and will be placed within the UK's national archives and is public record.
20:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)188.220.118.149 (talk)
Thank you
Thank you so much Demiurge1000. I really appreciate your effort in making me a better wikipedian. I also thank you for discussing my issue with Jamie Tubers. To be sincere with you, am not really fluent in Nigerian languages, and am just learning to speak it. I understand that there are lots for me to learn here on English wikipedia, I think I have enough time to do so and am ready to learn . Please be my mentor and I won't disappoint you but if you are too busy for that, I will appreciate any experienced editor you can recommend. I know someday, you will be proud of me. Thanks. Wikicology (talk) 20:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello and thanks
I wonder when and where I find the approval ("course right") for my course that I attempted to register? Leeirish (talk) 21:33, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your persistence! It seems likely the response would be at Misplaced Pages:Education noticeboard within a few days. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:55, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks!
Hi,
thank you very much for granting me access to my deleted page! It helped a lot! You can delete the page "vera dik" now.
Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veradik (talk • contribs) 14:33, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
GOCE September 2014 bling
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Books and Bytes - Issue 8
The Misplaced Pages Library
Books & Bytes
Issue 8, August-September2014
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)
- TWL now a Wikimedia Foundation program, moves on from grant status
- Four new donations, including large DeGruyter parntership, pilot with Elsevier
- New TWL coordinators, Wikimania news, new library platform discussions, Wiki Loves Libraries update, and more
- Spotlight: "Traveling Through History" - an editor talks about his experiences with a TWL newspaper archive, Newspapers.com
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:51, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Re: Your message
Hello,
You inserted to my talk page standard template of warning in case of removing content. You wrote a message, I should rather edit instead of reverting. I can't agree with You in 100 %. I use Huggle, which is a tool for dealing with vandalism or other unconstructive edits on Wikimedia projects. It is not created to edit pages (although it has got that kind of option), but to patrol recent changes. When I saw, the edit was not made properly (because of resources' syntax) I reverted it (basing on theAGF) and informed author in review summary what to change - that means to use Template:Cite web. That kind of reverts are, if I know the policies, ok. They blocks disabling poorly formated content and inform revison's author what to do (what to improve). So, thank You, for Your edits, but please also understand my opinion. Regards, Tymon.r Do you have any questions? 17:47, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
October 2014
Hello, I'm XXN. I noticed that you recently removed some content from TinKode without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! XXN (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- I've struck your templated warning as it's blatantly incorrect. Please read WP:BLP. Then, please act on it in the future. If you do not do so, you may be blocked from editing. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Monument to Misplaced Pages in Slubice
Demiurge1000, it's not too late. Słubice is only 1 hour drive from Berlin, one of the busiest air hubs of continental Europe, I'm sure you could catch a flight there. And there's plenty of cheap rail and bus connections between Berlin and Frankfurt (it's right across the river from Słubice, you can actually see Germany from where the monument will stand). Ryanair and Wizzair also fly to Poznań regularly (from Dublin, Bristol, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Liverpool and London, not to mention other places), Słubice is only 2 hours by train from there. You could contact User:Magalia who is going to the ceremony from Poznań. Unfortunately I won't make it there, but I really hope we'll have a chance to meet in person one day.
P.S. I'm trying to push two more articles on historical battles through the eye of a needle FA process: Battle of Warsaw (1831) and the Warsaw Uprising (1794). I'm pretty sure you're fed up with Polish history articles after editing the article on Radzymin 1920, but just in case I'm wrong I'll leave those two links here. :) //Halibutt 23:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- BTW, we're planning to give the guys who created the monument a small gift, a booklet with thank you letters from all around the world. Could you please drop a line or two here? //Halibutt 11:05, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, missed both deadlines now unfortunately. But many thanks for the detailed advice, and for your involvement in the whole project. As for Berlin, it's still fascinating that it's so far east (relatively speaking) these days. Wikimania has not been in Germany since 2005, so maybe if it ends up in Berlin sometime, there could be day trips to the monument.
- Regarding the eye of a needle, I recall someone once said that it is easier for a fat man to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a camel to enter the kingdom of heaven. Something like that anyway. I will take a look at the new Warsaw conflicts and see what I can do. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:08, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome
Thank for saying hello. If I have questions, I will be sure to ask for your help. :) --YeOldeGentleman (talk) 08:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
RFC/U
Serialjoepsycho is currently harvesting diffs with the help of Roscelese for an RFC/U he plans to initiate against me. They are openly discussing me at her Talk page which includes making false allegations. He publicly stated his intent and purpose for me back in July . I may have made a few newbie mistakes months ago, all minor and of no consequence, but I have always acted in good faith. The template on IPT was a violation of WP:BLPGROUPS because Emerson is inextricably connected to IPT. According to the current BLPN, I'm not alone in calling out the problems. BTW, the Islamophobia template was recently removed by an uninvolved editor who participated in the BLPN discussion Serialjoe initiated. The BLPN remains unresolved. Serialjoe also initiated an ARB request a few weeks ago hoping to get me topic banned, but the reviewers rejected it. Based on my understanding about RFC/U, at least two editors must have contacted the user on their talk page, or the talk pages involved in the dispute, and tried but failed to resolve the problem., I have no idea what "problem" they're trying to resolve (or create) because if anything, I've been the target not the shooter. His behavior has elevated to the point he made demands on my talk page - referred to them as suggestions, I believe. An uninvolved editor who happened to stop by commented on his behavior. Shouldn't I be the one initiating the RFC/U?
- Update - the BLPN determined the template to be a BLP violation, therefore removal from the article was the correct action. Atsme☯ 11:44, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the update. What a mess. Seems to be proceeding very very slowly too. I've watchlisted it anyway. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:14, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
User:Zmflavius
Thank you for your kind welcome to WP. As my usage of certain WP terminology would indicate, I am a previous editor from the 2009-2011 time period during which time, the Golden age or the silver age or whatever WP community consisted of 30000 active editor/writers etc+ with a nice balance between wikignomes wikifairies wikijanitors and all the long-forgotten terms of a more open and optimistic time. From 2012-2014 (present), I've monitored or occasional IP-edited minor points of grammar or janitorial type tasks without being involved in the community, but the impression that I developed, and which was confirmed by several other old wikifriends and members of the wiki community is the existence now of the 300 core editors plus 2000 "article campers" who monomaniacally protect "their" articles to express their POV. With renewed access to the WP project, I'm concerned that in my first ten edits, I've already encountered another "article camper" User:Zmflavius whose edit history reveals nothing but a continual and relentless, possibly drug-addicted or teenage adderall-ADHD type personality monomaniacal stance of pushing a pro-KMT, pro Chinese-British or Chinese-American POV. His talk space is filled with numerous numerous numerous warnings and official WP advisements against his behaviour, yet before another edit war begins, I was wondering what mechanism there is in place to deal with this problem of the POV camper? This seems to be the general cancer infecting WP in our current late stage, and before all the fireworks all go off, I'd just like to know your general take. Thank you, -Augustabreeze (talk) 05:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Augustabreeze: Please don't make personal attacks on other editors. Misplaced Pages is not a place to grind axes and editing here is a privilege, not a right. Regardless of your history, your aim should be to improve the encyclopedia rather than criticise others. Thanks, Philg88
Sourced statement (Wales and Medvedev)
I ask you respect this: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Jimbo_Wales&action=history (Forbes - the source). 95.27.105.172 (talk) 08:50, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- The problem is that we aren't going to circle jerk over his one comment supporting Medvedev, it reeks of propaganda. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 08:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Jimbo knows better: http://meta.wikimedia.org/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Request_on_the_Fairness_at_English_Wikipedia (please wait his reaction). If he not will make rollback on Meta, I will make rollback of you. - 95.27.105.172 (talk) 09:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC).
WP:Co-op
Hey Demiurge. I'm building and piloting a new mentorship space on Misplaced Pages called the Co-op with a small team. I wanted to ask if you might be interested in mentoring 1 or 2 editors during our pilot in December. The idea is that mentors will be doing one-on-one teaching specific skills based on what an editor wants to do or accomplish, and it's not some huge commitment to teach comprehensively about Misplaced Pages. I saw a previous conversation here on your talk page about issues with being able to commit to mentorship, and we're really trying to ensure that mentorship is focused on a specific task with a definite end so that mentors don't get burnt out. If you're interested, please sign up here and we'll keep you posted when we have an actual interface to work with. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have, of course, so let me know if there's anything about the space you'd like to know more about. Much like the Teahouse, the only way we'll know if our project is useful is if we can get folks to help teach. I, JethroBT 23:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:YoungStartup_Ventures.
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