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The articles in this category place information from existing articles on Olympic Games into chronological order by day. Some of these were named as "YYYY Summer/Winter Olympics Highlights". Previous Articles for Deletion discussions (1, 2) raised issues multiple issues. The information in the "highlights" already exists in articles for their respective Olympic Games and/or in sport specific pages (ex. 2008_Summer_Olympics, Athletics at the 2008 Summer Olympics). The highlights articles may represent Redundant Forks. They may also represent a problem with Neutral Point of View as they inherently select a limited number of events or pieces of information and present them as more notable/important than others. Along these lines, the articles may also be original research. Some of these articles were updated during their respective Olympic Games, and were said to violate policy on What Misplaced Pages is not. The articles were also said to be contrary to the WP:MOS. They were also criticized as there was no long-term historical perspective to be gained from a per-day organization.
Users in favor of keeping these articles argued that they were "useful", but required cleanup rather than deletion. The move from "Highlights" to "Chronological Summary" may have addressed the NPOV issue. Becky Sayles (talk) 22:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I propose that the Village Pump proposal be extended to apply to all articles, not just those on geographic places. As a recommendation, only certain specific information should be included in parentheses, such as:

• a person's date of birth & death, if known, not their age
• one English translation, if the article title is in a foreign language and there is a notable English name (e.g. Las Meninas), or include an English translations section if there are more than one notable translations
• an organism's scientific name, or its common name if the article title is the scientific name and there is only one, otherwise include a common names section

Otherwise, in the interest of readability, other relevant information is better off included elsewhere. In particular, pronunciations should not be included in prose at all - they would be better off in an infobox where readers could access them without breaking up the readability of the lead. I like the idea of foreign language names being listed in the main infobox, but they could be moved to an alternative names or foreign language names section just as easily, improving the lead.

Here are some examples in my userspace (I will G7 them when this closes): User:Ivanvector/Hebron (compare), User:Ivanvector/Chernivtsi Oblast (compare), User:Ivanvector/Inuit (compare), User:Ivanvector/Coup d'état (compare)

I am aware that the choice of place names and article titles can be controversial, and I expect that disputes regarding naming will be settled by local consensus or our other processes. I also expect that the choice between infobox or separate section will be on a case-by-case basis, and there may be other appropriate solutions in some cases. With this proposal I am interested only in decluttering the lead, not in taking sides in any active disputes. I look forward to your comments. Ivanvector (talk) 19:39, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Necessary clarification: RfC participants should narrowly interpret "nationality" to mean "sporting nationality" - not citizenship, not dual citizenship/nationality, not current place of residence, not place of birth. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 10:35, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

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