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More Infobox?

It'd be nice if the island's characteristics were included in the info box like larger pieces of geography. One question I don't have answered, is what's the tallest point/highest natural elevation on Manhattan Island? ie: is global warming going to take out the *whole* island, or just most of it?
~ender 2010-04-12 21:50:PM MST

What is the size of the whole island (and not just the borough)? The map of the whole island, etc. are also missing. 88.192.19.110 (talk) 10:38, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

How long will the nice new "fuller" shots of Manhattan stand?

This article, NYC, and all its borough articles have a long history of users scrubbing any images that seem to capture the fullness and denseness of NYC such as these:

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So enjoy them while you can.. because wikipedians are persistent about deleting larger fuller scope images of NYC and confining it only to smaller scope photos such as this:

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--108.50.170.32 (talk) 20:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Photo feedback requested withdrawn

please remove me from this conversation Beyond My Ken mekes me sick, and I have no desire to continue to be exposed to him in any way, please do not force me to interact with him this conversation is as far as I am concerned over, please disregard my comments concerns or my photo, I would rather it not be used, thank you!

Photo feedback requested

Not relevant to request for feedback

Looking for feedback regarding lead, BMK please refrain from tainting the request, we already know what your vote is. Thank you! talk→ WPPilot  07:36, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Actually, WPP, no, I will not refrain from participating in a discussion that any editor can take part in. Besides, if I didn;t comment, no one would know that photo #1 was the lede image until you replaced it with photo #2, which is your photograph. I reverted that, on the grounds that your photograph did not adequately represent Manhattan in a way that was appropriate for a lede image, and that, therefore, the original image was superior. BMK (talk) 07:44, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Ok then to the other editors, try to overlooks BMK's biases (tainting the request) and just pick one of the photos. I think the fist one is too low and does not get the entire scope of the place, BKM has a opinion about everything. I am looking for yours, as a UN BIASED editor on the site. Looking forward to hearing from you all. Thank you! talk→ WPPilot  07:52, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Right, I'm "biased", but one of the images is yours, and the other isn't mine. Hmmm... BMK (talk) 07:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes you have already made it clear that you do not like my photos by your actions as well as your words. Please let others chime in and try not to dominate everything. Thanks talk→ WPPilot  08:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't care, and I was trying to REMOVE bias from the equation. Notice that I did not put that anyone was the creator. Why do you feel editors need that info to make a choice on what is a better photo? talk→ WPPilot  08:07, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Editors here are perfectly capable of forming their own opinions, regardless of what has gone on previously in the discussion. BMK (talk) 08:09, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
You just have a inert need to tell them that I took one of the photos first, so that helps them make up there mind, is that correct?talk→ WPPilot  08:18, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
No, I think that you should have told people in order to be perfectly transparent about everything. You say something like:

"There's a dispute about which of these two images is best for the article. Editor X prefers photo 1, which was the lede image until I replaced it with photo 2, which happens to be one of my own. Regardless of that, I think photo 2 is superior for reason 1, reason 2 and reason 3, while photo 1 is not as good for reason 4, reason 5 and reason 6. Please comment on which image you think is better for the article."

That puts all the cards on the table and allows people to comment knowing precisely what the situation is, instead of denying them the fact that you have a conflict of interest in regard to one of the images. BMK (talk) 08:39, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Aerial photo #1Aerial photo #2Image from when article became GA

At the risk of getting a lecture, what's wrong with the picture used when the article attained GA status? --NeilN 08:17, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with that image at all. BMK (talk) 08:28, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Me neither. I !vote to restore that picture. @WPPilot:, please stop replacing the lead pictures in such highly viewed New York City articles, or as a matter of fact, any highly viewed articles, without discussion. Epicgenius (talk) 15:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Epicgenius you were the one that put it here, your comment is funny! Would you like me to remove my photos from all NY locations too? talk→ WPPilot  16:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I've put the GA image in the lineup to the right above, so a direct comparison can be made. I slightly prefer #1 because it gives more of a sense of the geography of lower Manhattan, but #3 (GA photo) shows more of the skyscraper ensemble, so either seems fine to me. BMK (talk) 19:34, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
@WPPilot: I'd looked these pictures over before putting it in the appropriate sections of the article. I did not remove them. Now, I am politely requesting not that you don't add photos, but just to not put them as the very first picture in the lead, as these pictures, honestly speaking, aren't exactly the best quality. (No offense.) Epicgenius (talk) 22:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Epic you were the one that placed MY aerial photo on the Manhattan page, please use it now to place where the sun does not shine and do not contact me in any way, again. Thank you. talk→ WPPilot  00:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
@WPPilot: please use it now to place where the sun does not shine and do not contact me in any way, again You can now withdraw your personal attacks, please. Thank you. Epicgenius (talk) 18:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Support keeping photograph 1. Op47 (talk) 16:42, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone tell if photo 1 was run through filters? I like the colors but my preference is always for a unfiltered (i.e., unInstagrammed) shot for Misplaced Pages articles. --NeilN 19:45, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Geez, I dunno. They're all perfectly acceptable choices, and it's difficult to choose between them. My preference would be #3, #1, and #2, in that order. But any one of them would be fine. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:33, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Personally, I think #1 is prettier, then #2 and #3. But utility-wise, #3 is the most useful. Epicgenius (talk) 18:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I want the lights in the windows from #3 but the wider perspective of #1 and since this is Manhattan I am also obligated by longstanding agreements made in my distant past to ask for a pony, which I suspect is about as likely. EllenCT (talk) 00:07, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Since Legobot summoned me here... Starting at the right (GA image) and working to the left. GA image is just okay, as I can make out one landmark building and that's about it. It's kind of foggy and not very crisp. Image #2 has too much water front and no obvious landmark buildings to me. Image #1 has a few building I can make out as landmark buildings and has the crispest wide view of the city/skyline from the three offered. My !vote is for image #1. — {{U|Technical 13}} 00:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
  • My Preferences, in descending order: #3, #1, and least of all #2. No one associates the image of Manhattan with docks and piers; they are particularly dreary and ugly. Please don't use that one. Best to restore the GA one, in my mind. Softlavender (talk) 10:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I personally like Image #1 best, mainly because it gives a wider picture of Manhattan Island. #3 is also good if you want the skyscrapers being the main focus, but I'm not too fond of #2 for some reason. Pyrotlethe "y" is silent, BTW. 00:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:George Schlegel - George Degen - New York 1873.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on December 15, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-12-15. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:31, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Picture of the day Manhattan An aerial view of Manhattan in 1873, with Battery Park in the foreground and the Brooklyn Bridge under construction at the right. After the American Civil War concluded in 1865, New York saw an influx in immigration from European countries looking for a new life in the United States. However, the squalid conditions and low wages allowed these immigrant communities to become hotbeds of revolutionary ideas.Engraving: George Schlegel; restoration: Adam Cuerden ArchiveMore featured pictures... Categories: