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I would like to add relevant, well-sourced material from Bakunin and Thomas Pickety. Any objections?
Anarchist critique section:
In 1872 Marx's rival Mikhail Bakunin wrote that Marxism: "can excite the imagination of the workers, who are as eager for justice as they are for freedom; and who foolishly imagine that the one can exist without the other; as if, in order to conquer and consolidate justice and equality, one could depend on the efforts of others, particularly on governments, regardless of how they may be elected or controlled, to speak and act for the people!" Bakunin went on to predict:
For the proletariat this will, in reality, be nothing but a barracks: a regime, where regimented workingmen and women will sleep, wake, work, and live to the beat of a drum; where the shrewd and educated will be granted government privileges; and where the mercenary-minded, attracted by the immensity of the international speculations of the state bank, will find a vast field for lucrative, underhanded dealings.
Economic critique section:
Thomas Piketty wrote: "Marx totally neglected the possibility of durable technological progress and steadily increasing productivity, which is a force that can to some extent serve as a counterweight to the process of accumulation and concentration of private capital. He no doubt lacked the statistical data needed to refine his predictions. He probably suffered as well from having decided on his conclusions in 1848, before embarking on the research needed to justify them." Pickety added that Marx "devoted little thought to the question of how a society in which private capital had been totally abolished would be organized politically and economically - a complex issue if there ever was one, as shown by the tragic totalitarian experiments undertaken in states where private capital was abolished."
Please be specific if you have objections. Thanks!Jimjilin (talk) 21:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
If no objections I'll just add this material.Jimjilin (talk) 20:46, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
- What do you mean, "If no objections"? You know full well that elsewhere at least nine editors have already objected to this out-of-context cherry-picking, while not one has supported you. Attempting to shoehorn this content into multiple articles, and to force the same discussion on multiple talk pages, is classic uncooperative editing, and is not acceptable. Please accept that your proposed edits are not accepted, and cease this disruptive behaviour. RolandR (talk) 21:15, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Some objections were made in another article, but this article represents a different topic! Why do you say my additions are cherry picked? The article already contains examples of cherry picking: the views of Zimbabwean Trotskyist Alex Callinicos, Ernest Mandel, and V. Gordon Childe among many others are discussed. Why do you feel my additions are out of context? Piketty is an economist and Bakunin an anarchist.Jimjilin (talk) 19:17, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
If no other objections I'll just add the above mentioned material.Jimjilin (talk) 14:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- The addition of this material has been opposed by many editors, in several articles. You have received countless warnings about your disruptive editing and your refusal to accept consensus, and if you persist in this uncollaborative behaviour I will report you to the administrators' noticeboard for appropriate action to be taken. RolandR (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
In this article only you are objecting. Some editors felt the additions were inappropriate for another article. You are deleting additions for no reason. Please stop violating Misplaced Pages policy and work for consensus. If you have specific concerns I'd be happy to listen to them.Jimjilin (talk) 14:53, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
You are in error when you say I added the Bakunin and Thomas Pickety material in several articles. I only added the material in one other article. Please don't make false accusations against other editors. Again you are in violation of Misplaced Pages policy.Jimjilin (talk) 15:08, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- Your attitude and behaviour have become completely disruptive, and are by now a massive waste of time. As far as I can see, the addition of this, or very similar, material has been opposed or reverted, here or on other articles, by many editors other than myself, including AndyTheGrump, Xcuref1endx,TFD, Archivingcontext, Wikidgood, Uspzor, Dustin, YeOldeGentleman, and Neonorange. Your continued attempt to shoehorn this material into one or another article demonstrates determined refusal to listen to other editors, or to abide by consensus. Please establish a consensus before again attempting to add this material to any article; current consensus is clearly opposed. RolandR (talk) 15:47, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Marxism
Can Any one make me understand what is marxism — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.114.69.221 (talk) 20:36, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
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- The collapsed text is a request that would turn the talk section into a general forum. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 21:28, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Marxists websites section
I had removed this section. It was not useful and did not serve any benefit to the reader in learning anything about Marxism. It seemed to have existed as a spam section for certain political sects to advertise their organization. This is a violation of WP:EL. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 21:25, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/works/1872/la-liberte.htm
- Pickety, Thomas Capital in the Twenty-First Century (Cambridge, MA: Belknap Press, 2014) p.10
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