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Should there be a criterion for math?
I recently spotted a defect in an equation in an article on the front page, and I'm thinking the criteria ought to advise editors to look into math more closely. I'm thinking it is desirable for FA that:
- Equations should be sourced inline (to a proper derivation, if possible?)
- Equations are in the best available math format (I don't claim to know what that is)
- Every variable in an equation is clearly defined
- Specialized operators (at least anything from del on up) should be explained
There ought to be some math folks here who could suggest much more. But the gist is there ought to be a criterion for it so that it doesn't get missed. Wnt (talk) 16:33, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Alt-text
Is alt-text for images a must or a recommendation? -- NickGibson3900 08:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
- See Misplaced Pages talk:Featured article candidates/Alt text for a series of discussions. For FAC I don't think ALT text is a requirement according to the discussions there. - SchroCat (talk) 14:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
- Tks Schro, that's right. As an editor, I always use alt text, but it's not actually a requirement for FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:08, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Withdraw an article
How do you withdraw it before it either fails or pass. should i just delete the nomination from the top page? (Monkelese (talk) 13:21, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Monkelese, No, it should be one of the delegates that does it, as there are a few steps that need to be gone through. Best to drop a note on one of their talk pages to have it actioned. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 13:24, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Tks Schro for responding before I saw this. Monkelese, I assume this is re. Jefferson–Hemings controversy -- as one of the FAC delegates I can take care of that. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thank You (Monkelese (talk) 14:56, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Tks Schro for responding before I saw this. Monkelese, I assume this is re. Jefferson–Hemings controversy -- as one of the FAC delegates I can take care of that. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Featured Article promoted in 2013, nominated for deletion
2012 tour of She Has a Name, Featured Article promoted in 2013, has been nominated for deletion.
Please see discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/2012 tour of She Has a Name.
Thank you,
— Cirt (talk) 23:23, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Suggested step in review process
I suggested some talk page review as part of the GA review, but because there is currently no talk page criteria for Featured Articles, it seems we couldn't currently change anything. As such, I'm now suggesting some sort of minimal review of the talk page as part of the FA review. Mark Hurd (talk) 04:17, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- Mark Hurd, updating class entries is done if the article passes, but if the article doesn't pass we don't necessarily know what its class should be - we have had start-class articles nominated, for example, and some projects have B-class or A-class criteria or reviews that others don't. As to topics having priority levels set: as editors commented at the GA discussion, this is not feasible for all topics, and as some said there I don't really see a need for this. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:27, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Where appropriate
"where appropriate" links to an essay "Misplaced Pages:When to cite". I think this is a mistake it should like to policy (WP:UNSOURCED) Misplaced Pages:Verifiability#Responsibility for providing citations. The links in the criteria ought to link to policy not to how to pages and essays. -- PBS (talk) 09:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
high-quality is undefined and non-consensual
Too paraphrase Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass
"I don't know what you mean by 'high-quality' " Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' "
"But 'high-quality' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
Unlike the "Reliable sources" the phrase "high-quality" does not appear in Verifiability policy and (as far as I am aware) it not defined in the guideline Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources. Leaving it in this project page, allows it to be used as a bludgeon without needing to define what it means, because after all "Aunty knows best" and "it means just what Aunty choose it to mean—neither more nor less". If there is a disagreement over the suitability of the inclusion of a source and "high-quality" is invoked then its evocation tends to be non-consensual.
So I have been bold and removed the phrase. -- PBS (talk) 09:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- If you can provide an example of a FAC where it has been misunderstood, mis-applied, or "used as a bludgeon" at FAC, we could have a discussion about whether to delete the long-standing, well-applied phrase. I've restored it. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 09:27, 27 February 2015 (UTC)