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Asking for your help/senior editor eyes

Hello. I'm currently engaged in several back-and-forth edits with a few users on a page that you have reviewed, when it was nominated for AFD. The page in question is Sageworks. My view is that these editors have a clear WP:COI and grudge against this company, and are making uncited, unsubstantiated claims, in violation of several Wiki policies (ED, WORDS, NPOV, etc). I can make a case for why I think I'm right, but I'm also a new editor, and I could be totally off. I was hoping you might be open to taking a few minutes to review the page to ensure that these editors are not in violation, or if I'm doing something incorrectly (I'm certainly open to that possibility as well). Either way I think a senior editor would be beneficial to all involved. Are you willing to take a look? 77 woodmont (talk) 21:20, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint you, but this topic simply does not interest me as an editor. I recommend looking at WP:DR for more advice on how to get other people, who may be more interested, involved to help you resolve this disagreement. To start with, you and the other editor should begin a dialogue on the article talk page, which you have so far both not done.  Sandstein  21:47, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thank you for the reply. --77 woodmont (talk) 21:54, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, i came here to share that, :FYI, I've posted the following to any participants in the AFD who weren't already invited by 77 woodmont:

"Hi, there's some active editing and discussion going on about the Sageworks article at Talk:Sageworks, and you're invited to participate. Some editors commenting in the recent AFD have already been invited by another editor, and i am just making a point to contact the others, including you, to avoid any appearance of selectivity."

You already answered clearly to 77 woodmont, but I want to be able to say I informed everyone. Thanks. --doncram 23:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

FYI, User:Roamingeditor222226 who contacted you in "Sageworks Deletion" section above, and User:77 woodmont here, appear to be 2 sockpuppets of many. I was partly duped to "help" some. Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Sageworksinc opened. --doncram 05:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar

Thank you for your contributions to the article Bechdel test. What a most fascinating topic and article. I hope you'll consider quality improvement further to perhaps WP:GA and beyond. Thanks for this contribution related to multiple important topics and intersecting with multiple WikiProjects on Misplaced Pages, including: WP:Feminism, WP:Gender studies, WP:LGBT, WP:Women's history, WP:Human rights, and WP:Film. The Misplaced Pages community appreciates your important efforts at quality improvement on this site related to these (often unfortunately under-covered) topics. Thank you. — Cirt (talk) 00:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!  Sandstein  08:38, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Logging a sanction

Hey Sandstein. There is now a WP:AE#Parishan complaint and I was searching the AA2 log for previous mentions of that editor. Please note you closed a previous AE complaint in 2009 with a 1RR per week restriction but your action does not seem to be in the log. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 21:25, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, maybe I forgot that then or it got lost somehow in the shuffling of logs. Oddly there was until now no section Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2#2009, and Misplaced Pages:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions/Log#2009 says it's courtesy-blanked but the history is empty. I've at any rate now logged it at the old location.  Sandstein  21:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Actually, you did log it back in 2009 but I didn't see it due to this courtesy-blanking business. I wonder if the blanking is such a good idea. We don't courtesy-blank the cases themselves. EdJohnston (talk) 22:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Korra - Germany/France broadcast info?

Howdy Sandstein, re: , I'm not sure the France and Germany additions are consistent with WP:TVINTL. I don't see anything glaringly noteworthy about the additions, and these aren't English-speaking nations. Respectfully, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:38, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, we should avoid mere lists of broadcasts, but on the other hand Misplaced Pages isn't a US-only project, and the way the series has been picked up in major markets strikes me as mildly interesting. I mainly wanted to mention the French fandub project, though; it may be just another Internet pipe dream, but at least it got some media coverage.  Sandstein  22:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

True that it's not a US-only project, but consensus at WikiProject Television has shifted away from perfunctory inclusion of starts/ends in English-speaking nations, unless there is a noteworthy reason to do so. If this were a German series, I would argue that US airdates aren't within the scope of our interest. Similarly I think the German info is not necessary. Yours is a reasonable argument for inclusion of the French dub, since it did make press. Anyhow, not worth a fight, but if it does get removed, the consensus is already there. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:23, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Game of Thrones deletion of Forte Video

How is this "Not a significant link?" The video is being aired worldwide and is licensed by Game of Thrones — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawillia (talk • contribs) 14:56, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, please address this on the article talk page after reviewing WP:EL. Thanks,  Sandstein  17:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

TBAN appeal

Hi Sandstein, I want to ask you to lift and cancel my TBAN. During this period of time I've contributed to some very good articles and created some quality ones. I can say I am really an experienced Wikipedian and I can assure you no past mistakes will take place anymore. My current TBAN though stops me to create many good Georgian articles because many of them have some kind of Armenian relations as well because of Georgian-Armenian relations are huge and deep and they count several millennias. I recognize my past mistakes of editwarring and being a bit non-cooperative with Armenian Wikipedians which I no more will be like if you give me a chance again by lifting my current TBAN. I will engage with Armenian users and will cooperate in a calm manner in the interests of English wikipedia. I believe having a Georgian wikipedian like me also would greatly contribute as well. I by all means learned on my mistakes and I am ready to get back. I recognize all my past mistakes and now I am more aware how interacting with everyone is important. I will be cooperative and open for the common good of this great encyclopedia which we all love and contribute. Thanks Sandstein and hope you'll give me another chance which I definitely won't screw it up again. Jaqeli 12:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, if the ban is lifted, which articles specifically do you intend to edit, and how? And can you explain this edit? It replaced an article with a bare list of links, which looks at best like very incompetent editing.  Sandstein  17:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I've much contributed to many Georgia-related articles, whether it's about history, historical personalities etc. basically everything Georgia-related. As for Georgian inscriptions, I'm going to work on them and I've listed some of them in order to create a new articles as it was messy before and was only about Abkhazia-located Georgian inscriptions and many more should be added to the list which abound. Jaqeli 17:46, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

It was messy before? Sorry, but the state it is in now after your edit is a mess, a bare list of things with no lead, no context, nothing. The previous version at least looked like an article, with a lead, an image and an external link. Based on this, I don't trust you to edit competently in a controversial topic area, and you haven't answered my question as to which specific article you would like to edit, and how. Your request to lift the topic ban is declined.  Sandstein  19:40, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Based on what? I've told you I am going to continue contribute and edit on Georgia-related articles. On Georgian inscriptions I've made a list to work on those red-lined articles as it is listed in Georgian Misplaced Pages version of this page. I have more than 20,000 edits, I am an experienced user registered back in 2011, I've made many contibutions to English Misplaced Pages, I've made Good Articles, written many articles, expanded many etc. I have years of experience on English Misplaced Pages and I deserve a second chance because many Georgian articles can have some marginal Armenian connections and I don't want that to stop me in my contribution. There can be new infos, pictures, charts, maps, etc. that can be added and because of my TBAN I cannot do so. I am asking you for a last chance and if I screw up again you can block me forever and I will quit Misplaced Pages forever. I promise I will work with Armenian users and will be cooperative in every way possible. Right now because of my TBAN I cannot work any Georgian article because many have Armenian connections for historical reasons as we are long-time neighbors. There's many I can do to contribute as I've done in the past. Please I am asking for a last chance Sandstein. Jaqeli 11:18, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

No, based on the reasons mentioned above. Also, you already had your last chance before I reinstated the ban.  Sandstein  17:59, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Please see this. Jaqeli 07:19, 7 March 2015 (UTC)