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List of England Test cricketers who have taken five wickets on debut

Nice work on starting this list - it's been on my to-do pile for some time! Lugnuts 15:05, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem, I have a lot of spare time at the minute, and it seemed like a good thing to do. Also, thanks for making some changes to it, and especially for reviewing it. I didn't like having the "unreviewed article" thing at the top. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:39, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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That page has a lot of unsorced content, but to remove it all would be blanking pretty much the entire page, can you help me with finding sources for the content? Weegeerunner (talk) 22:01, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll try and help, although I have absolutely no knowledge on the subject (I only found the page through looking through recent changes for possible vandalisms). Hopefully Google has some sources on the matter. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:05, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Discussion on this has moved to Talk:West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette.

Regarding attendance figures in 2015 Cricket World Cup

Do make your vote count in favour of attendance figures in the discussion. Its all here: Attendances

Some baklava for you!

Some baklava for you, for the hardworking -- Susith Chandira (talk) 15:04, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:NOTSTATS

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I recognise that you've only been on Misplaced Pages for a couple of months, but that really doesn't excuse you from reading WP:NOTSTATS. To save you the effort, the relevant passage reads: "Long and sprawling lists of statistics may be confusing to readers and reduce the readability and neatness of our articles." That is why I have reduced the stats tables to just the top 10 points/try scorers. This is something that people at WP:FOOTY and WP:CRIC have no problem with, so why is it a problem for rugby? You said the 2015 article should include all the scorers because that's what previous season articles did, but now they don't. What's your rationale now? You just want all the scorers listed? Well, policy doesn't support that. – PeeJay 11:49, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

This isn't a matter that only concerns rugby articles. Rugby articles are not a law unto themselves, they still have to abide by Misplaced Pages's overall policies, and that includes WP:NOTSTATS (which I have explained above). As for missed conversions/penalties, they don't contribute positively to the score, so they're not worth mentioning. If a missed kick affects the game so much, we need to start writing prose accounts of matches rather than just expecting readers to subsist entirely on stats tables. – PeeJay 11:54, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Don't assume I haven't read WP:NOTSTATS, that it insulting to think I'm stupid enough to have not read and understood . Having a list of 20 points scorers is not a violation of WP:NOTSTATS, as it's no harder to understand than a list of 10. Missed conversions/penalties are important, and I believe these are far more important and notable to the game than say who the TV referee is. Why should you decide what content there is, without a consensus? Joseph2302 (talk) 12:11, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Interesting point about the TV ref, but ultimately a straw man argument. Anyway, it's not me deciding not to include missed kicks, it's the BBC, ESPN and various other websites. If anything, we already provide far more stats than we should. After all, this is an encyclopaedia that is meant to be built on prose, not facts and figures. – PeeJay 12:16, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Because writing in prose is so much better for the reader. Clear statistical tables are much clearer for the reader. However, if you want I can convert the rest of the points list into prose, since according to you that would make it acceptable. Simple statistics are an easy way for readers to find information, surely an encyclopedia should be encouraging ease of access. In fact, WP:STATS clearly says that "In cases where this may be necessary, (e.g. Nationwide opinion polling for the United States presidential election, 2012), consider using tables to enhance the readability of lengthy data lists." I believe these statistics necessary, so they should be in a table. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:29, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I believe you've intentionally misunderstood the point of WP:NOTSTATS here. Also, you say I'm editing without a consensus, but when WP:NOTSTATS backs me up, I don't need a consensus as I'm following policy. What policy are you following? – PeeJay 12:36, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't believe WP:NOTSTATS says this at all, and I also believe accusing me of intentionally misunderstanding is harassment, as it's questioning my judgement and abilities. I think that you're just a manipulative person, who wants everything done their own way. WP:NOTSTATS says that statistics may be necessary, and if shows they should be in a concise table-this is exactly what has been done. Instead, you're arguing that statistics should be replaced by prose. If you wanted prose so much, why haven't you bothered to edit the offending statistics into prose? Joseph2302 (talk) 12:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm not arguing anything of the sort. For the overall points scorers and try scorers, I'm saying a table that almost covers the full screen is excessive and probably a violation of WP:SUMMARY. I'm sure there are people in the world who are interested in who scored the 13th-most tries at the Six Nations (heck, I'm probably one of them), but I'm able to see objectively that most people probably don't want to have to wade through a large stats table and are only going to be interested in the top scorers. Obviously a prose account of every single point scorer would be fucking stupid. Where prose would be useful, however, is in giving our readers an account of each match, the story of which may not be immediately apparent from raw stats; missed kicks do not add to the score, therefore they shouldn't be added to the {{rugbybox}} template – I'm not even convinced we should be saying "(2/3)" but that's a minor inconvenience in my book. Reliable sources don't note the missed kicks in the match summary, only in prose match reports. Do you understand now? – PeeJay 12:54, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikibreak

No one's saying you're stupid, but I don't think it's unfair to say you are inexperienced on Misplaced Pages and therefore don't know all the rules. That's not stupidity, it's just a fact of inexperience. If someone tells you there's a rule against something you're proposing, you can't take that personally. Learn from the experience, learn a new rule and work to make yourself a better editor. None of us are perfect, after all; I know I'm still learning a few rules (and I still don't abide by some of them either). – PeeJay 16:56, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, it's honestly not really you, I've had frustrations on other pages. Like yesterday, I was on Benedict Cumberbatch, added details (with citations) of his marriage, and got reverted saying it's too premature. Meanwhile, users on talkpage were complaining it hadn't been added, citing the same sources I used (both newspapers and his own Twitter account) And again on Ukraine Special Forces, it's clearly POV and I wrote about it on the talk, but got complained at for adding a POV tag. And no-one has responded on Talkpage, except to tell me I'm wrong for adding the POV tag. And lots of other similar experiences. And I'm fed up of having to constantly revert 1999/2003 World Cup hosts that people keep vandalising (by saying it's only England & South Africa). Also, the Cricket World Cup/Attendances thing is annoying me, since people won't stick to the rules of not putting attendances in yet. I want a consensus, but everytime I look at the page, someone has added in the attendances without consensus. Basically, I hate being reverted for no reason, and I hate the fact people don't listen to consensuses.

I definitely think you actually have a point about 2015 Six Nations Championship, even if I don't agree. The main reason I'm fed up is coz of the pointless reverts/arguments with no justification. I came on here to help, not to have arguments where people think they must be correct, even when they're not. To sum up, I accept criticism (like with you), but not in the form some other people (not you) have been doing it. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Okay, no worries. By all means take all the time you need. Sometimes I feel like I should take a break from editing, but the articles on my watchlist go to pot if I'm not around. Or maybe that's part of the problem. On a sidenote, you've raised an interesting point about the 1999 and 2003 Cricket World Cups: they were promoted as "England 99" and "South Africa 2003", so although a few matches took place in other countries, surely England and South Africa are the countries that should be considered the primary hosts. My point is, the ICC awarded those World Cups to those countries, and then it was their choice to award a few matches to Wales/Scotland/Ireland/Netherlands/Zimbabwe/Kenya. Those others weren't actually the host nation, they just happened to host a few games. See where I'm coming from? – PeeJay 20:30, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Rather than bite me on the Ukraine Special Forces talk page and assuming bad faith on my behalf, I think you misread my comment as patronage rather than that which it was intended to be: a helping hand being offered. Yes, it's a new article and is a huge mess of contradicting POV's, puffery, and suffers from the full spectrum of WP:WORDS problems. It's also not been treated as a coherent split from the Spetsnaz article. Enough of that for your talk page: I'll leave a more constructive response on the relevant talk page as soon as I get out from under about 100+ other problems with articles higher on my priority list at the moment.

I did leave a comment on the talk page, so it's a bit of a fib to say that no one responded on the talk page... In fact, I responded and explained why you shouldn't just tag an entire page leaving a comment by a once-only IP contributor who is treating the talk page as a forum simply agreeing that it's POV with absolutely no specifics.

Please remember that it isn't considered good protocol to complain about other editors (per WP:NPA) on any talk pages, including your own. Also, bear in mind that every editor is 'someone', not just a generic "someone", so being WP:CIVIL from the outset goes a long way. If you want to know something about me and my experience, take a look at my user page. You are still a novice, and the article you've become interested in falls under the hairy WP:ARBEE sanctions umbrella, so you need to know what you're doing if you have any intentions of working on it. Cheers for now! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:50, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Just to be clear, when I tagged it as POV, it was because I'd read the section in question and agreed with it. There wasn't any evidence on the talkpage that people were intending to edit it, so my adding a POV tag, I was hoping to alert people to the issue. I'm sorry if this was the incorrect thing to do, I wasn't aware that other people knew of the problems, and I was genuinely trying to help. I don't just do what IPs say, I did look at it myself.

And yes, you did respond to me adding a POV tag, my complaint was that when I expanded on the POV issues, no-one replied to that comment. I've basically decided I'm fed up with the politics on some controversial pages, so I'm just going to stick to non-controversial, non-political pages when I return.

As for mentioning it on my talk page, I'm sorry that you feel it was Uncivil, but I was trying to vent frustration caused by a number of users. I feel I did misunderstand you, as I assumed your revert was based on "You're new, so you know nothing", which is a feeling I've been getting from quite a few pages. I wish you all the best. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:47, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

QED237 (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Jayantilal Gada

You left a note over at talk page for Jayantilal Gada about two weeks ago, I spotted it doing a pass through my logs and deleted the talk page (its dependent on a deleted article, so I was following G8 protocol). I wanted to follow up though in case there was something I didn't know about the article just to make sure that I didn't inadvertently mess up some course of action you and/or Postcard Cathy were taking. TomStar81 (Talk) 12:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't remember what I wrote on there, so I have no problems with it being deleted, especially if it was a G8. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:25, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Just for the record, you wrote "I tried to move it back, but it seems not to have worked. The correct spelling Gada just redirects to the incorrect spelling page Gads." Not sure what it meant, but like I said I wanted to follow up just to be safe. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:05, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh I remember now. Postcard Cathy accidentally moved the page, and I tried to move it back, but it wouldn't let me. I have no problems with deleting it. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:13, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Emily Kwok

Hello Joseph2302. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Emily Kwok, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: There is an obvious claim to importance there, although the subject might not meet WP:BIO in general. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrog 22:47, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

That's fine with me. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, this was intended for the original tagger but the script gets confused when another editor restores the speedy tag like you (appropriately) did. §FreeRangeFrog 23:12, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

2015 Cricket World Cup Scores in Group Games

Hi Joseph2302. Just wondering why you would remove all the top scores and most wickets from all group games at the World Cup. Some people spent a lot of time putting them on there but then you remove it all? Thank you. Could you please put it all back on for us. Shagadelicbasil23

There was a debate about it here ( Talk:2015 Cricket World Cup#Merger proposal). It was agreed to move the top scorers and most wickets to these pages: 2015 Cricket World Cup Pool A and 2015 Cricket World Cup Pool B.

Nothing from the World Cup page was deleted, it was just moved, because people thought it was making the World Cup article too long. It's the same thing people did on 2011 Cricket World Cup. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I just thought it was all removed. Good to know it is on another page. Still think we should keep those details on the main page for the knockout stage? Thanks Shagadelicbasil23

I'm not sure, looking at 2011 Cricket World Cup, they had a separate article for the knockout stages. I'll open a debate at Talk:2015 Cricket World Cup to see what people want to do. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:59, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

User talk pages

Hi. I've declined your speedy at User talk:Buraas because we don't usually delete user talk pages. Especially when they have warnings on them... We do delete them if created by mistake and deletion is requested by the creator, or if the user is the only poster to the page, but those are rare (see the History to check). They can be deleted when the user is banned from Misplaced Pages (see User contributions to check the block log), but they are often replaced with a banning notice then. Talk pages starting User talk: can be deleted if they are not the talk page of a registered user - look at the left side of the page for 'User contributions'. If it's there, they are registered. If it's not, it's not a page that needs to be kept as it's a mistake, or an attempt by someone to change his/her username (which does happen sometimes). Peridon (talk) 16:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that was a mistake by me, I thought it was a regular talk page when I marked it for deletion. Obviously user talkpages shouldn't be deleted, unless they're clearly malicious/advertising, which this one wasn't. Thank you for clearing up my mistake. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:02, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

No problems. BTW, wiggly writing like Arabic and others can often be identified by dropping them into Google Translate and selecting Detect language. There's two main ones that look like Arabic - Persian and Urdu - so if none of them come up, it'll be one of the others like Pashto, Luri or South Azeri, etc that Google can't translate. If this doesn't work, drop some of it into Google Search without quotes which gives you a chance to look at domain codes and Facebook etc codes too. (If the whole bit comes up, check for a copyright violation...) (South Azeri is the same as North Azeri - but North is written in their version of the Turkish alphabet with a characteristic upside down e (also used in the IPA to represent 'schwa' or 'uh' in American phonetics)). Pages for Translation can be a source of detective work if you enjoy that sort of thing. I do. Peridon (talk) 17:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Yh, I usually check the language in Google Translate, but I forgot on one of them. Thanks for the advice though, I'm sure it'll be useful next time. Joseph2302 (talk)

Civility

No comment Cheatspace (talk) 18:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

ANI reports

Don't forget that when you report a user to WP:ANI, you should notify the user, such as with template {{ANI-notice}}. You and I both reported the same individual, and I've already notified them, so you don't need to report separately. I also took the liberty of combining our reports. —C.Fred (talk) 01:13, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I was going to, but then I noticed that you had also posted a report, and notified the user. Also, thank you for combining reports. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:14, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Its no problem I don't really mind Saturn star (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

March 2015

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Marcus Mariota, you may be blocked from editing. NeilN 00:10, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I think this is a case of you reverting multiple times without checking what you're reverting? --NeilN 00:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes it is, I assumed that User:BrendanE99 blanking sections was vandalism, when in fact it was removing false information. I'll be more careful in future. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:17, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Tip: If you see a bunch of redlinked users making dubious changes do a diff with a bluelinked editor version to help you figure out what's going on. --NeilN 00:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely do that in future. It's the first second mistake of this kind that I've made, so it'll teach me to be more careful in future. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:24, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: World of Color—Celebrate! The Wonderful World of Walt Disney

Hello Joseph2302. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of World of Color—Celebrate! The Wonderful World of Walt Disney, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It's not WP:MADEUP, but is just a proposal. To WP:AFD? Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 09:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh okay, this is real? The user had made other hoax pages. My mistake. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:29, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

It's OK, we all make mistakes. I have no problem at all with adding the speedy tags. The editor has a small history of creating fake articles. But this wasn't one of 'em. Google first, then add the speedy tags. As for mistakes, I've been an editor since 2006 and an admin since 2013, and still make a lot of mistakes. I self-banned myself from Speedy Deletion for a month when I made massive mistakes - oops, can't find it right now. List of Australia women Test cricketers needs update. Get back to you soon. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 12:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Appreciation from Christopher2625649908

	Appreciation from Christopher2625649908
	Thank you for telling the readers that the page "Orchestral Suite in G minor, BWV 1070" has some issues! Glad to see you Joseph! I'm just a student in China but I am a fan of classical music. Could you help me improve this page even further if you can? Thanx! Christopher Christopher2625649908 (talk) 13:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Christopher2625649908, I don't know much about classical music, but I can try and help. I'm looking for sources at the moment. Also, I've added a note on Talk:Orchestral Suite in G minor, BWV 1070- I added it to classical music portal, so people on there can come help/style it like they do for other similar articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

EvergreenFir impersonators

Thanks for your message: I've added an entry to Mediawiki:Titleblacklist to stop any more "User:EvergreenFir X" accounts from being created, and semi-protected the real EvergreenFir's user page. -- The Anome (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you. Hopefully we can end this ridiculous series of attacks on a perfectly reasonable user. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:52, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Padgett's Creek Baptist Church

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This discussion was moved to Talk:Padgett's Creek Baptist Church

Thanks for your message: Per Wiki docs, we are allowed to add a home website to a page represents our business (church) that we did not create if it helps to clarify and better represent the information. Our website happens to be a facebook site so i know that means we have conflicting doctrines within the same discussion. This is important to the church, not because of the Wiki Article but because it has also been sucked into facebook and created a page there related to the national historic places. that in itself is great but it is confusing people who are trying to find us on facebook because it ends up being first in the list. Adding this link will get the people to visit the true website and proved more clear information for them. Since i cannot get the wiki created page out of facebook or claim ownership to it this is the last resort to providing accurate information to the people who will review this. (user talk:pagcrkbapchurch) — Preceding undated comment added 20:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

The problem is, if I add it back, then someone is just going to remove it again. I'm going to move this talk to Talk:Padgett's Creek Baptist Church, so other users can comment. Personally, I'm in favour of using Facebook in this case, but if I add it back, someone will revert it. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:01, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Appreciation from Christopher2625649908 (2)

Appreciation from Christopher2625649908 (2)

Thank you for trying your best to gain related external links (including where to buy the related CDs) for the "Orchestral Suite in G minor, BWV 1070"! But you know, this work is not famous at all! Therefore recordings are hard to find. For years I have been trying to find a fine recording but I haven't been able to! Furthermore, many related webpages are censorship in China (where I live). Even if not, it takes too long to open the pages and it automatically stops! Thank you anyway! ^_^ Christopher2625649908 (talk) 23:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Joseph - Editing Wesley Taylor's page

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Hi Joseph2302,

I am a new user and have been trying to edit the content of Wesley Taylor's page. He is a client at Anonymous Content, where I intern, and he emailed us a specific bio he would like reflected on his page. He asked that any other information beyond the new updates be removed.

My initial edits were rejected as they lacked citations. I carefully cited the new changes, but received the message below from you: "Joseph2302 left a message on your talk page in "March 2015". Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did at Wesley Taylor, you may be blocked from editing."

As a new user, how can I make the changes reflect his updated biography? I apologize for any confusion or disruption, and appreciate your help!

Best, Talent Intern Talentintern (talk) 00:28, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Talentintern:,

I shouldn't have used the word vandalism, as it was probably a harsh way of describing your edits, which clearly had good intentions.

However, it is considered bad practice to remove source content without a consensus to do so (WP:REMOVAL). You changed his birth town to Elizabeth, New Jersey without a source mentioning it (source used doesn't mention Elizabeth anywhere), and have decided to completely omit his entire personal life (family and relationships), removing properly-soured content, which is common among biographies (BLPs). Your edit is mainly a list of achievements, which only mentions Taylor, whereas the other edit listed his collaborators too, and used more of a prose style.

The problem is that whilst your edits may be the article that Taylor wants written, this is an encyclopaedia, and as such any relevant reliably sourced information should be added, not just the cherry-picked information that your client wants.

I think that as this is an issue about the article itself, it should be discussed on the talkpage, so all users can contribute. If you don't have an objection, I can copy this discussion onto the talkpage?

On a different note, as you appear working on behalf of Wesley Taylor, you should familiarise yourself with Misplaced Pages's conflict of interest policy, if you haven't already done so. If additionally you are being paid by Wesley Taylor to edit, then you need to particularly read the paid editors section.

Hope this helps. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:04, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Joseph2302,

Thank you for your informative reply. I am okay with moving this to Wesley's page, and will post a longer response there.

Thanks again, Talent Intern Talentintern (talk) 01:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talentintern (talk • contribs) 01:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Pata R Marudyan

Saw you reviewed it-the article is also one that has been deleted TONS of times under different names and was a afd also. (Seems like some sockpuppetry also) Wgolf (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

That's fine, I wasn't sure it was notable enough (but wasn't 100% sure it wasn't). Feel free to delete. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Afmarcom

Hi! I hope I am doing this right. I received a message from you about an inappropriate entry. I actually never intended to create a Misplaced Pages page at all, but when I created an account in order to edit an entry, I was given the option of creating my own page, so I did. (It currently has one sentence.) I don't mind if you remove the page, but I never intended the entry as an advertisement. (And I don't sell anything, anyway.)

Afmarcom (talk) 16:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Speedy tag on Shi Lan Qin's Moon

FYI, Shi Lan Qin's Moon is broken out from Qin's Moon. She is a fictional character, not a real person. As it stands now, this article could possibly be speedied under A10 - recently created articles that duplicate an existing topic. (I am not going to do so at the moment, nor will I attempt to stop you from requesting that someone else do so, should you desire to.) Whether a good idea, bad idea, or indifferent idea, the original author wanted to make an article for this particular fictional character, and hopefully intends (or intended) to come back and expand it. --B (talk) 19:53, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

My mistake, sorry. As it's not a BLP, I'll assume good faith for now, and assume they're going to make the article longer/better. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Outstanding Conduct

I just wanted to thank you personally for being "non-bitey", and very helpful to 117.192.182.9. Keep up the great work with welcoming the newbies. We need more editors like yourself around here. :) — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 17:58, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words. I knew what they was adding was good for the article, but that it just needed sourcing. So it was better for the article to just ask for sources than remove it and possibly start an argument. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:35, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

"at the Cricket World Cup" Series

I just want to give a big, bold Thank You for helping me out with the Cricket World Cup series. I'll try to integrate these pages like the "at the FIFA World Cup" series. Just keep on doing what you're doing and thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hindian1947 (talk • contribs) 06:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

No problem, for most of them I've just been copying (and slightly editing) the teams' own Wiki page, and then adding the scorecards from the relevant World Cup articles. With a bit of extra work on some of the years that don't have good scorecards. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi

No problem, if you could suggest me more tips on editing wikipedia as I'm a new user, please don't hesitate to contact me at The Awesome 10. Also, sorry for editing too much and not letting you know about it earlier. 135.23.61.70 (talk) 03:44, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

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I already contested

Stop adding deletion thing I already contested it so stop addingCloaked in Daggers (talk) 01:24, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

You created the article, therefore you cannot remove speedy deletion tags from the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:25, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

But I contested it!Cloaked in Daggers (talk) 01:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

You aren't allowed to contest it, see WP:CSD. Any other user except for yourself can remove the speedy deletion tags, if they don't agree. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:28, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

You also

I don't have the "thank" button installed, but thanks to you too. That kind of situation can be a real headache sometimes. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:50, 9 March 2015 (UTC) No problem, thanks for semi-protecting it. The article was becoming a Man Utd/Arsenal argument page, the decision in argument there wasn't even really controversial. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:53, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

A recent csd tag you added

See this. —George8211 / T 20:36, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Graeham Goble

Joseph2302User:GAPeach0583 has editing rights and PERMISSION from subject Graeham Goble to edit and/or completely remove sections he no longer wants on his Misplaced Pages page. You may verify this with him direct at <removed>. I have full permission to remove the PERSONAL LIFE section. Please stop restoring the section. Thank you.

Misplaced Pages policy states that in order to make substantial changes, you must obtain a WP:CONSENSUS to do so. In order to do so, you need to interact with other users on the talkpage. No one person is allowed to claim exclusive ownership to an article.

Also, this discussion would be best on the article talkpage, since it affects the article, so I'm going to copy and paste it to Talk:Graeham Goble. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

All further discussion should take place at that talkpage. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:02, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Los Angeles County Assessor update

Joseph can you updated the information about the Los Angeles County Assessor you have the wrong information and please attach jeffrey prang photo to this page. Bing is using the wrong image about our department that you.

http://assessor.lacounty.gov/

http://www.bing.com/search?q=assessor.lacounty.gov&go=Submit&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=assessor.lacounty.gov&sc=8-21&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=07a788acb5b74135bf0b4891c191f19d

Thank you for your help with this mattter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbaker124 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Mbaker124,

I've changed all the information about the assessor to Jeremy Prang.

I cannot add a photo of Jeremy Prang to the article, because Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia does not currently own one, as far as I can see (I checked https://commons.wikimedia.org/Main_Page, which is where all the images Wikimedia own are listed). Until someone uploads a free/uncopyrighted image of him (which satisfies the usage conditions here WP:IUP), then I cannot add one.

I have no idea why Bing has the wrong photo, I guess if we could add a correct photo then Bing might update itself.

Also, do you mind if I copy this discussion to the article talkpage? Because then other people might also be able to help. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:58, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Good job for protecting World Cup Page, Most of people think Bangladesh V India is declared.(It will be declared by tomorrow :) ) It is not officially declared yet. Because, technically Australia's loss could slip them to 4th position. But, huge loss (by around 275 runs is not possible). Hc107 (talk) 16:30, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this, although it's not just me who helped with this problem. Cricinfo had mistakenly added India to their fixture list, so lots of people believed it true, although thankfully they've changed it now. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Economy of Sweden

You tagged Economy of Sweden with a "POV" tag that references a talk page discussion. I don't see the discussion there? Was it the last one on the page? I don't think that was a fair assessment but rather just one persons opinion (really, a rant) with no proof provided. Thanks for providing your thoughts. 166.137.12.47 (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't exactly remember why I added it, the article seems fine to me. I'm happy for it to be removed. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:48, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Civility

" You seem to be the stupidest human being ever"

How is that supposed to make anything work better? Andy Dingley (talk) 02:06, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

So it's perfectly fine for them to attack me and everyone else repeatedly for about an hour, but I'm not allowed to vent my frustrations at them? The comment was clearly stupid, but if admins had blocked this obvious abuser sooner, then this situation would not have got so super-nasty. I regret saying it, but I cannot see why they were allowed to prolong their abuse of multiple users for so long. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:24, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you're not allowed to vent your frustrations at them. Turn to gin instead, like the rest of us do.

The experience of the internet (a couple of decades pre-WP) is that "venting" doesn't work. It's not seen as venting by the other side, it's seen as escalation. So WP has tried something different, with an enforced civility, however false and shallow that seems. On the whole it does work better.

Admins aren't "on call" (we don't pay them enough), so the cost of that is a sometimes slow response. Patience is however cheap. What would it really have cost to leave the article with this disputed content for an hour or two? Andy Dingley (talk) 21:45, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

I know it was stupid but I was frustrated, I've not done it before, and I'll almost certainly not do it again. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm SPIKE SPIKE BAD. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Vanessa Shoshaj, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. SPIKE SPIKE BAD (talk) 13:26, 16 March 2015 (UTC)