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January 2015

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Faisalabad

Hi Decentscholar, I noticed that you removed large chunks from Faisalabad. Yes, what you wrote was not bad, however you deleted nearly all information contributed by countless editors. FYI, there is an established structure of city-related articles, you can familiarise yourself with it at WP:CITSTRUCT. As you can see, all the info you removed has a valid place in a city-related article. For now, I restored the previous version, and I suggest any such large-scale changes should be submitted for discussion on the Talk page. Regards, kashmiri 10:17, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

January 2015

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Rajput

I have just reverted your most recent edit at Rajput. Using the format "Despite the fact ..." is point-y and should usually be avoided because it casts aspersions. - Sitush (talk) 07:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for making me aware of WP:Point, but Encyclopedia Britannica says so, its not my personal opinion. Decentscholar (talk) 07:35, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I didn't say that it was your opinion. There is simply no need for it - it lays an emphasis on something that then infers a different emphasis on other things. WP:NPOV kicks in as well, you see. I've no idea why EB do it as they do but that is their business and this is ours. - Sitush (talk) 07:53, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Alright, but actually the structure of origins section needs improvement, it seems confusing somehow, The paragraph should commence with exactly what the discussion is about. This would render it sensible. if you think my last edit was somehow a defamation, we may commence saying The Rajputs claim Kshatriya ancestry but this is also a subject of debate. I think it would be compatible with the source EB as well, and we'll also go compatible with wikipedia guidelines Decentscholar (talk) 08:03, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I think you would need to discuss that on the talk page. You are giving emphasis to the Rajput claim and that doesn't seem right to me. The existing opening sentence, on the other hand, exactly explains what the thing is about, ie: different opinions exist. - Sitush (talk) 08:32, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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March 2015

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March 2015

Information icon Hello, I'm Mahensingha. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Template:Rajput Groups because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Linked article do not give sufficient grounds to be added to the target template Mahensingha (Talk) "Thanx n Regards" 12:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Rajput. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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There has long been a trend on Misplaced Pages that, when it comes to editors working in the India sphere, those whose usernames include words such as "truth", "scholar" and "historian" are usually ignorant of our policies, unwilling to follow them and ultimately destructivetive disruptive. More often than not, they edit articles relating to Rajput and in my experience, they always end up getting blocked. You are following that trend, which is a shame.
You can either buck it by beginning to work collaboratively and within the scope of our policies etc or you can face the inevitable consequences of your actions. Since, thus far, you are just being a complete pain in the backside in your determination to have your own way, please take note of the information below. - Sitush (talk) 08:45, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Replaced "destructive" with "disruptive" - a Freudian slip, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 08:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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you're trying to impose your own way, I'm not. why do u teach others about consensus when you yourself don't do it! isn't this hypocrisy? in addition, the point I am editing now, oppose to the fact i wrote reason in edit summary you never provided any reason for that. tell me why are you putting wrong source for your stance! really when did britannica mention the 12th century? so i am telling you the real source and also providing you the statement in line with the source, not only you are using wrong source for this point but you're also being incompatible with the source! Decentscholar (talk) 09:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
You've done it again! James Tod is a featured article, I pretty much wrote the entire thing and the point of the quotation in Rajput was because too many Rajput contributors were trying to use Tod as a source. You, like them, seem to have a pretty substantial pro-Rajput bias. It needs to stop. Now. - Sitush (talk) 10:57, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Regarding your other point, it looks like Britannica has changed its article but I cannot see where you explained that the source had changed. This effectively fixes the issue and is in conformance with WP:LEAD, in particular the guidance that quotes and citations should be avoided in lead sections except where absolutely necessary.

I'd much rather have this conversation at Talk:Rajput than here - if you want to continue to discus the content issues, rather than behavioural, then please could you do so there. - Sitush (talk) 11:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not at all biased, your new edits are satisfactory. but I have issues with Jason freitag wording, which I am gonna discuss on Rajput talk page! Decentscholar (talk) 11:38, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

April 2015

Information icon Hello, I'm Mahensingha. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Template:Rajput Groups because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Mahensingha (Talk) "Thanx n Regards" 19:21, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Taoni

Please stop edit warring at Taoni. You are reinstating unsourced statements. Even the source that is there does not support the claim. The burden is on the person who adds info to ensure that it satisfies our verifiability policy and, given the amount of puffery that goes on at caste-related articles, we really must insist on it. - Sitush (talk) 09:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Edits at Rajput

Have you read the source? You are on very thin ice with your various changes, for which it is evident you do not have consensus on the article talk page. You have been made aware of the discretionary sanctions already. - Sitush (talk) 14:35, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes I've read the sources. The words 'many' and 'close relationship' are a POV. I've put in the precise words. Decentscholar (talk) 15:11, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Do you mean you have quoted the source? Or is it just your interpretation of precision? - Sitush (talk) 09:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)