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Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Tirgil34

Vanjagenije, I didn't follow my own instructions. After I blocked the puppet, I just figured I'd go ahead and create the SPI in the other case. Sorry about that.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:40, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

@Bbb23: You're talking about Uniquark9 / BillKillB? It's OK, no problem. Vanjagenije (talk) 00:42, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

		The Barnstar Barnstar Barnstar
		I hereby award this barnstar for all your work involving the SPI concerning Tirgil34, Uniquark9, Ancientsteppe... et.al. Kansas Bear (talk) 03:19, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: Thank you very much! Vanjagenije (talk) 09:40, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/DeFacto

It's been two weeks (pretty much) since you or any other CU/clerk has dealt with the case. Could you please do something with it, one way or another? Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

@Lukeno94: What do you expect me to do? Vanjagenije (talk) 16:11, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

• The phrase "whatever needs doing" is all I can come up with, I'm afraid. Passing judgement on whether the case does have merit or not, I guess. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 16:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

re: Anulmanul

My signautre changed when my request for changing username was accepted. Perhaps there are some old signatures with old username. --Yerevani Axjik (talk) 18:39, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

@Yerevani Axjik: In that case, sorry. It was my mistake. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Shiba Ali Khan

In your reasoning for closing you stated that "the edits of those two accounts do not overlap", but they do on Shiba Ali Khan, sock at 19:45, master at 19:57, and sock again at 20:03. Depending how much this point weighed in your decision it may need to be revisited. Thanks, Bazj (talk) 07:51, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

@Bazj: Yes, youa re right, there is a small overlap. But, anyway, Shiba Ali Khan stopped editing, the person abandoned that account and now uses Sak Kas15. I believe the case should be closed anyway. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:48, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppetry

No problem. I've had this problem before on Wikimedia Commons. ​— Zotteteen1​ (talk)​ 19:25, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

The user sadman

Okay a few days ago I put up a SPI and now I'm most certain this is him, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Shraddha_Arya Wgolf (talk) 19:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

Stickee (talk) 13:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Kokuchūkai

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Thank You

Thank You for your welcome and your cookies. I apologize for answering so late, but I haven't been familiar with wikipedia talk pages until lately. Best Regards.Alexsd27 (talk) 11:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

SPI question

There is a new sock of Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Nucleargeek/Archive and I am not sure how to bring that to SPI without making a mess. The new user is

JewishguyinUSA (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Same behavior as prior socks. Can you advise me? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 19:16, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jytdog: Just go to the Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations and open an investigation. To open an investigation, click "show" at the box titled How to open an investigation, and follow the instructions. If you follow the instructions, there will be no mess. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

do i open it under the new sock or the old sockmaster? the instructions are not clear on that. i just don't want to create a duplicate case unless that is what the normal process is) thanks again. Jytdog (talk) 19:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jytdog:The case should be opened under the name of the original (old) masetr. I see that somebody else opened the case. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

thansk i will check that out. i hate to do it wrong and make more work for you guys - thanks for all you do! Jytdog (talk) 22:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I totally get it now. you guys want it opened under the same name as older ones, and then it is archived with the others when it is done. i get it. thanks. Jytdog (talk) 22:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Just wanted to pop by to say thanks for your help with the SPI -it's very much appreciated. Keep up the great work! - Beer's on me :), –Davey2010 19:19, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Thank you very much. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome :) –Davey2010 21:46, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Quick Questions about SPI

Hi Vanjagenije, I have some quick questions about what I consider a frivolous SPI filed against me.

• 1) How long does the CheckUser process take, and is there any way to make a request to expedite it?
• 2) What remedies are available to the accused to wipe the slate clean after being found innocent? I.e. Renaming the case to any actual identified sock instead of the accused who has been found innocent?
• 3) And regardless of whether there are any such remedies, how can I prevent what I consider an editor who is just out to pin something/anything on me, from abusing SPI again against me ESPECIALLY if the answer to #2 is that every accusation remains permanent even after whoever's being picked on is found innocent?

Thanks in advance for your time and answer. Zhanzhao (talk) 23:54, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

@Zhanzhao: Sorry for not answering more quickly, I was away for three days. I believe your question No. 1 is obsolete now. Regarding your second question, I don't really understand your concern. Why would it bother you if the case in which you was fond innocent is kept? You now, courts keep records of all the cases; even if the accused is fond innocent, the documents are not destroyed, but kept. That is normal procedure, and I do not see any problem with it. Regarding your third question, you should not try to prevent other users to accuse you because "you consider" they have something against you. There are SPI clerks and administrators whose job is to protect SPI from abuse. IF someone makes several accusations against other editors without proper evidence, he may be forbidden by SPI clerks to fill cases, but your case is not of such nature. Vanjagenije (talk) 10:30, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, by wiping the slate clean, my question was not to delete the case, but more importantly to rename it to whoever was indeed found socking at the page. The outcome was of the CU was not known yet, but, apparently DoRB found something about the IP but he declined to explain. But I'll leave it at that. Unfortunately even after the 2nd SPI that found me innocent, OccultZone has now decided to move it to ANI. I'm just fed up, frankly. But I'm not gonna give in just cos I'm being bullied, as a matter of principle. Zhanzhao (talk) 10:45, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

@Zhanzhao: Actually, no one was found guilty of sockpuppetry in that case. DoRB is prevented by Misplaced Pages policies to publicly comments connections between named accounts and IPs (for privacy reasons). Vanjagenije (talk) 10:48, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the clarification. And thanks for your reply. I'm having a tough time now from being harrassed, and your reply is one of the better things I've seen in a while here. Zhanzhao (talk) 10:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Bowei Huang 2

Regarding this, why didn't you give Elockid a good chance to reply to me on that? Flyer22 (talk) 23:00, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

@Flyer22: Sorry, I didn't think of that as a question. Anyway, I de-archived the case. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:05, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Devbulgames

After noticing a new sock, Zapadenpark, and looking at some deleted revisions of articles, I found out that this sockpuppeter has been going at it since 2012. The original account is Bulgames and there is an SPI for him at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Bulgames. Can you move the new case over to the old case? The last time I did some wannabe clerking, I kind of made a mess. Thanks! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:22, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

@Gogo Dodo: I'm not sure I follow you. What is the "old case", and what is the "new case"? Vanjagenije (talk) 22:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Devbulgames is the new case filed a few days ago. Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Bulgames is the old case from 2012. So the archive for Devbulgames should be moved to Bulgames. Sorry if I wasn't clear. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

@Gogo Dodo: You are the administrator, and I'm not. You can merge Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Devbulgames into Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Bulgames performing the history merge. I can help you to clean up the mess after you merge them. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:31, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Ah, histmerge... one of the few admin things I don't do... I copy/pasted the archive over. My apologies if I made a mess. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:59, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

@Gogo Dodo: Well, it's OK that way, I believe. The history is not so important anyway. Vanjagenije (talk) 00:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Histmerge gives me a headache every time I try to read the instructions. It just doesn't seem to make any sense to me and I worry that I'll make a mess of it. I make enough messes already. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:06, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Child sexual abuse

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Email

George Zabelka deletion page

Chidiumeano (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2015 (UTC)Dear Vanjagenije

Reference to this, the author wrote this, which was sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org on 17th January 2015 but no response yet:

In reference to: George Benedict Zabelka (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.donehealth.com/new-best-george-benedict-zabelka.html)

I hereby affirm that I, Emmanuel Charles McCarthy am the creator sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the attached text written about George Zabelka in the attached file (George Zabelka Bio for Wiki ). I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International.

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Misplaced Pages or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. Chidiumeano (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

@Chidiumeano: Ok, you don't have to post the permission on my talk page. I just informed you that your article was copyright infringement, otherwise I have nothing to do with it. If the permission is sent to the WP:OTRS team, it should be OK to use the material on Misplaced Pages. If you re-create the article, put this code: {{OTRS pending}} on the talk page of the article, so that everybody knows that the permission is sent. Vanjagenije (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

@Vanjagenije: Ok thanks.Chidiumeano (talk) 14:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, u pravu si, ne bih da se raspravljam na ovaj veliki praznik. Samo bih ti porucio ovo , a nek ti to bude neka vodilja. Pozdrav.--Soundwaweserb (talk) 16:46, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Kindredwiki

I disagree that the accounts were "spamming". Did you not read my comment? What evidence exists for it? I agree that their usernames were invalid. Stevie is the man! 19:38, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: What exactly do you expect me to do? Vanjagenije (talk) 20:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

You stated that the accounts were blocked partly for spamming. Therefore, you must have had reason to suspect that spamming was occurring. What indicates the spamming? What I saw was two company accounts who declared their COI and made generally reasonable edits. What did you see differently? Stevie is the man! 20:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: Ok, sorry, they were not spamming. Vanjagenije (talk) 20:20, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Temporarily indefinitely blocked

I blocked you indefinitely for your egregious behavior — and then I saw that I'd blocked the wrong person! I'm sorry! I've unblocked you, and aside from the block log (which nobody should hold against you, given my unblock timing and summary), there's no damage done. Nyttend (talk) 01:09, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nyttend: OK, I understand. :-) I've been a racist for a minute. Vanjagenije (talk) 01:14, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Welcome to the select club of mistakenly blocked editors! We have a support group that meets every Friday evening, kind of like a block party. Bring your own virtual food and drink.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

quick

Ok, but take a decision, I will be away from computer for few days. I've provide enough evidences. But you're not an admin as well, so why are you holding the investigation? Has an autopatroller the right to do so?--115ash 13:57, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

@115ash: I am a WP:SPI Clerk, so it is my job to work at the SPI. Anybody can comment at the SPI, but only clerks and checkusers may change the status of the case. You provided zero evidence of CosmicEmperor being involved in sockpuppetry. Vanjagenije (talk) 14:01, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Really? No evidence? Are you joking? How coul you be clerk? Could you show anything to demonstrate that you possess the right to change the case? Thanks --115ash 14:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)