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Life outside Misplaced Pages (apparently there is such a thing) is taking more of my time than usual, so apologies for any delays in replying to any messages left for me here. Unless it's something that only I can answer, which I doubt, then you're probably best finding someone/somewhere else. I am also unlikely to join in any discussions elsewhere because I am not regularly checking my watchlist. Bencherlite 21:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Maindate note

I've been looking at the discussions on the FAC talkpage concerning main page date notification on the chosen article's talkpage. I'm not quite clear whether the system has changed in this respect from the instructions you provided at the start of the year, and I'd like to know, if possible, before I resume scheduling in a week or so's time. Brianboulton (talk) 09:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Brianboulton – apologies for the delay, see the above note. Until 31st March, the bot was adding "maindate=" completely unnecessarily on TFA day, when (a) it should be added when the TFA is selected, not as late as TFA day, and (b) because there has been no bot doing this (as there used to be) you/others have been adding "maindate=" on selection, so that the bot has been creating template errors by adding it again (needing another bot to fix it). I raised this once again at WT:FAC (here) and now the bot is no longer creating work for other bots, I'm pleased to say. The TFA coordinators will have to liaise with Hawkeye7 about the issue of the bot adding "maindate=" on the day that the TFA is selected - whether you want this to happen, whether this is possible, and if the answer to both is yes, agreeing when this will start. A bot always used to do it, so it is technically possible and it is certainly less work for a bot to check for new TFA selections and add "maindate=" to the talk page than it is for the TFA coordinators to do it. Bencherlite 21:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. The work involved in adding "maindate=" manually is pretty minimal, and not I think worth negotiating a bot for. I happy to carry on without it. Brianboulton (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

The Bot adds the "maindate=" to Today's Featured Article at the same time that it updates the FA and FANMP pages (at around 0105Z), but only if it is not already there. It is technically possible for it to add it when the article is added to the upcoming TFA queue. The messiness occurs if the TFA coordinators subsequently remove it from the queue for some reason. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Old FAs that haven't been on MP - by date

How did you do this? I'm trying to get the current 2008 list to add to my page. Thanks. --Dweller (talk) 13:47, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Dweller – sorry for the delay, see the above note. I used a combination of AutoWikiBrowser and Excel, if memory serves me right.

1. Perform "links on page" for Misplaced Pages:Featured articles promoted in 2008
2. Right click and remove non-mainspace links (that gets rid of the project links, the user names etc). You're left with 719 articles.
3. Click on Tools > List comparer and answer "yes" to the question about using your list in the comparison.
4. In List 2, make a list of pages in the category Featured articles that have not appeared on the main page.
5. Right click list 2, select "convert from talk pages"
6. Go compare
7. That gives you 148 articles (at the time of writing). You can now save the file in the format of your choice, open it e.g. in a wordprocessor and add * ] around every entry (or whatever you want).

HTH. Bencherlite 21:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll have a stab at that. Or ask someone more technical than me to do it. --Dweller (talk) 08:35, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

"HTH"? --Dweller (talk) 08:35, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Hope That Helps. But YMMV ..... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:45, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Stop it, you're teasing me! --Dweller (talk) 09:15, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Or as Tommy Handley used to advise, NWAWWASBE. Tim riley talk 13:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

May be a silly question, but...

Why don't more editors strive for FA? I may be reaching, but I also strongly believe at least 2 accredited FA collaborations should be among the standard criteria for RfA. Thank you for all you do!! Atsme☯ 00:11, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) A lot of times people edit in other, equally important areas. Although content is the main public part of the encyclopedia, there are numerous administrative tasks that need to be done (AFD logging, template coding, etc.) and other content areas (writing lists, creating images, etc.). By instating such a requirement, we'd essentially be saying to all of these people "You're not good enough, so why bother?" Furthermore, FA can be downright terrifying if you're not used to it. Once you understand the system, it's more or less fine and dandy... but when you're first starting out, it can be a nightmare. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
• Another (talk page stalker). 1FA used to be a standard for RFA. But that was before we tightened up on our criteria for a Featured Article. I think it's not just the FA process that has matured, but Misplaced Pages. We much better value our Misplaced Pages:Wikignomes and other contributors who would struggle to do much in the way of content contribution, but help the place work much better. --Dweller (talk) 11:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @Atsme, Crisco 1492, and Dweller: Apologies for the delay, see the above note. RFA standards are not really something I want to join a discussion about, nor is FAC a place I'm rushing back to, as having been through it a few times I know what is required and I simply have no time at present for that. Bencherlite 21:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
    • No worries and understood respectively! --Dweller (talk) 08:34, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
• Another (talk page stalker). The Misplaced Pages:Wikignomes represent an untapped reservoir of talent. They already know how to edit articles, but do not. We need to find ways to get them working on content. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I think we need to appreciate them more for what they already do. --Dweller (talk) 08:34, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Tagers

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Both Osias Tager and Romie Tager (barrister) came to my attention when they were linked by their creator (Philafrenzy) to the bio I created for an autism researcher at Helen Tager-Flusberg. I was hoping you could glance at them to see if there is undue emphasis on the business of the father's will. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

The matter received wide coverage in the British press. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:04, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

But if that is all Romie is known for, it may be a WP:BLP1E issue. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:37, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

It's not. He is a well known Q.C. and his cases have been widely reported. I have added a few. He also appears in the independent Debrett's People of Today. There is more than enough to satisfy general notability I would think. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:57, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I see now that Bencherlite isn't actively editing, so I'm sorry for bringing this to his page. There are what looks like one-sided claims that require high quality sources in both articles, but they are sourced to tabloid style sources, not in accordance with WP:BLP. I've searched google news and find nothing of quality. Both articles read like political hit jobs; perhaps Eric Corbett is familiar with the case and can help me out, since I have no sense of the relevance of this in the UK. Otherwise, next stop is the BLP noticeboard for outside input (have you no better sources?), if not AFD on the son at least. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:38, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I've never heard of either, and I can't say I'm much interested in either. Eric Corbett 22:47, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Eric Corbett; that you have never heard of them confirms what I found on Google-- nothing. I removed the text as a BLP vio, sourced to generally primary sources and tabloids. Thx for looking, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:53, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

What? This article has fifteen sources. ALL from Google. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted your changes. You seem to think that the article is some sort of attack page. It isn't. You are also very wrong about the quality of the sources. They are neither tabloid nor low quality. I think you have got a bit carried away. Please start a discussion on the talk page. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:19, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

SandyGeorgia, the name Romie Tager rings a vague bell in my professional capacity, although we don't work in the same area of law. But I doubt that he passes WP:BIO on the current version of the article - the meat of the article is about the will, which is a bit too BLP1E / coatracky for my liking. The rest is trivial mention and fluff. Bencherlite 08:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Even if that were so, he would still pass WP:BASIC. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Well if that's what you think, we'll see what AFD decides. I know that SandyGeorgia may have held off from nominating it but I have no such restraint. Bencherlite 09:18, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I see that Bencherlite ... but since then i have discovered that Philafrenzy has written scores of similar, is active at DYK, and that this kind of work is promoted via the culture of DYK troubles me so much -- and there is so much of this Philafrenzy's work -- that I decided to ignore it in the interest of mental health. Every time I try to deal with something like this, all of DYK goes wild ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:10, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Like what Sandy? What exactly is it that you object to about my work? Most people seem to appreciate it. And what is wrong with DYK? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:18, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Bodleian Library Record

Hi, just to let you know that I am still following up your request about this source, amongst the many other things that I'm working on here, and I hope I can dig out the article next week. I doubt I can make the article public, but I can share it with you. Are you happy to share an email address with me, or a similar way to get a copy to you? My email is martin.poulterbodleian.ox.ac.uk . MartinPoulter (talk) 15:33, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@MartinPoulter: in fact someone else has already found it for me, but I may have other Oxford-related queries for you in due course as and when I return to more active editing. Many thanks for your offer. Bencherlite 12:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Boat Race review

		The Running Man Barnstar
		Hey old Dark Blue fiend, just a quick barnstar to say thanks for the review of one of Boat Race articles you conducted over the past year. As of this morning, I completed my (initial) goal of ensuing that every Boat Race had, not only its own article, but one that was either of GA or FA status: we now have 158 GAs and 3 FAs that we can all be proud of! It doesn't stop here, for me at least, I'm going to keep up with improving the quality of the GAs and look for more FA opportunities. Plus, there's the small matter of 70 Women's Boat Race articles to get up and running! But thanks again, I couldn't have done it without your help. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:50, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, you deserve the barnstar not me, mate. Congratulations on a towering body of work. Bencherlite 08:22, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Dr Lee's Professor of Experimental Philosophy

If you are around to answer this (it's not urgent), I have been putting together a list of the Professors of Experimental Philosophy at Oxford University (see draft here). There is the already existing Category:Dr Lee's Professors of Experimental Philosophy, and I noticed that John Alexander Smith had been placed in it by this edit you made. I just removed it, as I don't think he ever held that chair. Carcharoth (talk) 23:04, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Carcharoth, my apologies - obviously getting my experimental philosophy chairs muddled! Bencherlite 08:21, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

WP:TFAR page

Would you mind looking at the "currently accepting" dates on this page which appear to be a day out, as I have scheduled up to and including May 14. I must have made an error on one of the recent schedulings – can you put it right? Brianboulton (talk) 23:33, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Brianboulton, all looks fine to me, so if there was a glitch it has gone (perhaps purge your cache if you still get the wrong date). Cheers, Bencherlite 08:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)