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List

I'm thinking of putting a list of users who I trust on Misplaced Pages, I'd like to add your name to the list, but I'll need your personal permission first. Thanks TeaLover1996 (talk) 12:35, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Sure, thank you for trusting me. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:45, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

AsOne Creation Page

Hello,

I'm writing regarding the denial of gospel music duo AsOne as listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:AsOne#AsOne .

According to your note, they were declined because their debut album has not been released yet. However, I do feel they're notable enough to have a wikipedia page. Maybe you can provide suggestions on ways I can update their Wiki page to ensure it is published.

They've written songs for singers Usher, Fantasia, Jennifer Hudson and more. Also, they're on a major label (Capitol Records). Also, they have a song "Hero," that is being played in syndication on national radio stations. They've also performed at Disney functions.

Any help is greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.69.116 (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

DRN Notice about Pearl S. Buck

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! Robert McClenon (talk) 17:30, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Thank you for notifying me, I'll look and write a message there when I have time. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Admin?

Are you an admin TeaLover1996 (talk) 18:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@TeaLover1996: He is not. Winner 42 Talk to me! 18:56, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Brian Lisus is at AFD

A page you accepted at Articles for Creation, Brian Lisus, has been nominated for deletion by DGG. The discussion is at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Brian Lisus. --Mr. Guye (talk) 23:08, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me, I've given my input there. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Feathers

I see what you did there! :) Crow 23:38, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Completely unintentional, but amusing with hindsight. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:47, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Hi! do you know how to make all tabels beside eachother at this not the new one under them ? the same as this ? thank you :) . Adnan (talk) 03:41, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

 Fixed @Adnan n2: I think I've fixed it. The correct way to end one table and start another seems to be to add the code:

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|valign="top" width=0%|
{| class="wikitable" ,
but this had the code;
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Thank you mate ! Adnan (talk) 16:27, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Communist Party of Britain

Hello Joseph

Thank you for deleting the Communist Party (UK) redirect so that I can move Communist Party of Britain to Communist Party (UK)

However when I now try to move Communist Party of Britain to Communist Party (UK) I get a message saying

"You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason: The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid."

Please can you advise, so that I can move this page to the correct page name.

Thank you

MartinGarageland66 (talk) 12:19, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Garageland66:/Martin,

I can't delete the redirect Communist Party (UK), it needs an admin to do it, and I'm not an admin. I've put it up for speedy deletion, which notifies admins that I want it deleted. Once an admin has deleted the redirect, then anyone can move the page to Communist Party (UK). Joseph2302 (talk) 12:43, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

@Garageland66: Admin has fixed it, the page is now at Communist Party (UK). Joseph2302 (talk) 16:35, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Susan Cameron

You reverted to a revision earlier than mine, which was, according to you, the "unspammed version." Isn't that implying that I spammed the page? I clearly did not. I apologize for the confusion if there is any. --WikiWinters (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

@WikiWinters: My apologies, it wasn't your edits I was removing, it was most User:ADDgrammar's edits that I was trying to get rid of- my edit summary should have been clearer. Seems ADDgrammar was part of a sockpuppet farm of PR people, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Factsonlyplease39, and I was trying to clear up some of their mess. Your edits and were both helpful, and definitely not spam. Apologies for the confusion. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	thank you thank you thank you ... Bichetteln (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem, congratulations on creating an article that was good enough for Misplaced Pages. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Yann Benoist

i really enjoy that you accept my work foe wikipedia

Thank you thank you thank you

Best regards

Bichetteln (talk) 15:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	I'm offline in a few minutes, but before I go I just wanted to thank you for the sterling work you're doing checking the Factsonlyplease39 article creations. Such tasks are generally pretty thankless, so I thought you deserved a bit of recognition for it! Yunshui 水 15:49, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem, I hope there's actually some half-decent articles left at the end of it. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:56, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!!!

Can you stop helping me? Only kidding, thanks for all your help, it means a lot TeaLover1996 (talk) 22:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

My Misplaced Pages Input

While I understand some of your points on the input I've entered into wikipedia I'm appalled at the implication that I'm a vandal. That is far from the case. On the issue of a football "honour", it is merely a prize of winning a competition and/or receiving a medal for one and also individual prizes like "player of the year". Football league play-offs in Scotland and England and even if the winners are only surviving relegation, they are still a competition. I'm not going to re-enter the information you have deleted but I would appreciate a little respect.— Preceding unsigned comment added by JOESPICE (talk • contribs)

Really, because you've been warned 7 times in the last year, including 4 times in the last 2 months, not to add unsourced content, yet you did it at Graham Dorrans. And as recently as 2.5 days ago, you were told by @GiantSnowman: that playoffs weren't an honour, yet you continued to add them. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:15, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Started a discussion at WT:FOOTY about this, and added your comment above about it. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:05, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

03:16:08, 4 June 2015 review of submission by Mokawn

• Mokawn (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mokawn (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have written an article that I think it could be noticed by Misplaced Pages page because it is one of the success issues in Asia on the issues of construction. I would like to develop on the article that I summit. However I do not know how to develop and what to develop. Please help me and I would like to request to review the article again. Moreover please help me to develop on the referenceItalic text. I find the information on the website because when I review other article they also put a source from website. But when I summit on the article it suggest to find source on newspaper and others. Could you please highlight and help me more on reference? Thank you so much for your help and consider. momo 03:16, 4 June 2015 (UTC) momo 03:16, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I added some references to the bottom of the draft. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome, and I need your guidance on handling a direct copyright violation

Hi Joseph2302-

Thanks for the welcome. Still learning, and made my first mistake. So I'd appreciate your help in resolving an issue I found. Recently, a new user (GPMIP) made a large contribution to the Merger integration article. It appeared suspect, and really didn't relate to merger integrations, and was more appropriate for Mergers & acquisitions. When I viewed some of my M&A materials, I noticed it's a direct copyright violation, word for word, from pages 7&8 of Mergers & Acquisitions Integration Handbook (ISBN 978-1-118-00437-1). There are no publically available sources to prove this.

How should I handle this? Do I just undo the changes and include the "db-copyvio" language, or is there another way to take down the copy written materials. I can send you a PDF to prove the violation, but I don't feel comfortable posting the pages, in case I am then in violation of the copyright.

I've appreciate your help & guidance.

Jperks7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jperks7 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jperks7: If it's a copyright violation, then it should definitely be removed. I assume you mean this addition? Joseph2302 (talk) 13:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I've removed it, and warned the user about copyrighted materials. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:30, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi- You just left me a note I am actual the author of the referenced book but could not figure out how to footnote myself and ran out of time yesterday. My name is scott c. whitaker and I am the author of the Mergers & Acquisitions Handbook, John Wiley & Sons, July 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GPMIP (talk • contribs) 13:42, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Even if you're the owner of the text, the text doesn't have a suitable copyright license to be used on Misplaced Pages. To release text for Misplaced Pages, you have to donate it to Misplaced Pages, see Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials, however this would also place the text into public domain, so anyone would be allowed to copy and use it- I would advise against this. Instead, writing it in your own words (by which I mean words different from the handbook) is easier and better.

Although a second issue is whether that text would be better at Merger integration or Mergers & acquisitions, which you would need to discuss at the article talkpages. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:10, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

the conflict of interest with my posts

Hi !!! i wasn't sure of how to reply on the previous thread. i'm writing primarily to apologize to the 70 odd posts to the cricketers pages. i am trying to post the company who manage cricketers across India and was advised that since Wiki is the place people search for info, it would be best if i sign up and start there! i now know how wrong it was of me to do this. i have read the COI now and have realized that i shouldn't have done the same. i am still learning the ropes when it comes to what to do on digital/social media platforms and what not. i realize this incident was one of the don'ts. I thank you for sending me the warning this early, else i would never have known why the posts were getting deleted and the count would have surely gone from 70 to 90 or 100. Also, is there a way i can reach out to you via mail so that i can get to know the do's and don'ts of going digital and getting my stuff right? it would surely help a great deal. looking forward to hearing from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tejasraomys (talk • contribs) 14:08, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

But most Wikipedians don't care who a cricketer's manager is- unless it's covered in reliable sources (e.g. newspaper articles), then it's not notable enough for Misplaced Pages. Most of the Misplaced Pages comes from content on ESPN Cricinfo, Cricket World, and newspapers (for Indian cricketers, a lot comes from Times of India and Hindu Times)- content from primary sources about companies isn't encyclopedic material. With respect, if you want people to know which players you manage, then you should use your website and their personal websites, not Misplaced Pages, which is an encyclopedia, not a vehicle for advertising, see WP:NOTADVERTISING. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:35, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

GreenEarth Cleaning

I received your message. I have made the changes with descriptions in the edit summary. Also, please remove ref 3 &5; Cite error: The named reference sfenvironment was invoked but never defined (see the help page) and Riesenman, Stephanie. “Alternative Dry Cleaning Method May Be Unsafe.” February 17, 2005. Accessed 2007-08-01. they are not accurate, and are outdated. We have multiple studies much more recent proving otherwise. As they are listed in our references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreenEarth Cleaning (talk • contribs) 17:30, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

No, stop deleting all the content. As I already said, rather than reverting continuously, discuss it at Talk:GreenEarth Cleaning instead. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I was told me username did not comply, so I changed it. You told me I needed to leave a valid reason in the edit summary page, so I did that. Yet you continue to revert my edits. What is the issue? Someone has posted fale information, outdated studies that have since been proven wrong by the EPA, SEHSC, and Environment Canada. All I am trying to do is remove that information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajnewport (talk • contribs) 17:59, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

No, I told you to go to the talkpage to discuss it. I also told you about WP:3RR which between the 2 accounts you have violated. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:06, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

COI/SPA articles

Graceful withdrawal on Hanlon, given that it read like self-promotion and was started by a sockpuppet, I understood the AFD. Writing to ask if you would revisit your early !Vote on Jean Griswold, another-COI created piece of self-promotion that I took a fancy to and sourced.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:45, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Paul Radley CSD

Please be more careful with applying CSDs. Paul Radley clearly claims notability and is not spam. Thank you --CutOffTies (talk) 18:22, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

It was created as a PR sockpuppet, and claims some notability amongst a ton of spammy puffery. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Can you take a look at this ? I am not sure if there is any kind of protocol of lay out people here agreed about before ...thats why i am asking :) and the editor who ignored my invite to discuss , adding runners up for Spanish super cups as an honor?? it is seriously stupid , worse than adding palyoff winning as an honor..two clubs are playing one of them should be a loser lol! thank you :) Adnan (talk) 20:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Samala Venu

Hello Joseph2302. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Samala Venu, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. GedUK  11:51, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I disagree but whatever. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:53, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

your note at AN

Hey joseph maybe you want to reconsider this. we have a lot of work and just rollbacking all those edits would be amazing. i think your !vote there stopped the conversation and in my view it would have been great (and a huge burden off us) to get rid of them at a high level. i thought i left you a note like this before but i can't find it, if i did... Jytdog (talk) 12:36, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jytdog: With respect, I've noticed that quite a lot of the articles are about notable things, that just need a bit of tidying up. Almost all the CEOs are notable enough, and a lot of them had been cleaned up previously anyway, the baseball players are all notable, and some of the other ones are too. Whilst the quickest way would be to delete everything, I believe that they have created at least 20-30 (probably more) articles that are definitely good enough for Misplaced Pages, and lots of the rest are just about good enough. Therefore, I think we should only be deleting the rubbish ones. I've put 15ish up for AfD, and a few others have PRODs, but although I disagree with how these articles were created, the end product of them is actually beneficial and encyclopedic IMO. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:27, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Do you have a sense of how many they created that need going through? Jytdog (talk) 15:28, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

yes, it's around 150- some of them created 25-30 articles, but quite a few only created 2 or 3. If a decent number of them can be kept, then I'd consider it worth checking them all- and I'm pretty sure there's over 50 that will be kept, probably nearer 75. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:32, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

In my view, us taking up our volunteer time to go through that much socked and paid editing is ... abusive. I really think they should just be rolled back. I appreciate your energy though. Jytdog (talk) 13:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Relativistic Global Non-Inertial Reference Frames

Our submission was rejected because of copyright concerns with the article http://archive.org/stream/arxiv-0912.2935/0912.2935_djvu.txt .. Lusanna (the author of the cited article) and I wrote the Misplaced Pages submission. We wish to rewrite those portions of that submission which have significant overlap with the cited article. We wish therefore that our article be retained in my sandbox for the editing that I wish to do. Thank you Horace Crater Hcrater (talk) 18:45, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

@Hcrater: That's fine, the article is still at Draft:Relativistic Global Non-Inertial Reference Frames. Also, when you say "Lusanna and I wrote the article", are you both using the same account? Because Misplaced Pages doesn't allow multiple users to share the same account- each individual must have their own account. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I am the one who prepared the article . It is based in part on material on published papers we have either coauthored or just one of us authored. Of course we give appropriate references to our papers and the many others Hcrater (talk) 16:46, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Software-Defined Enterprise: more appropriate for Wiktionary?

Hi Joseph,

My apologies for the delay, I believe that rather than preparing this entry for Misplaced Pages Encyclopedia, would the right place be as an idiom in Wiktionary? The following references illustrate the notability of “Software-Defined Enterprises” by providing the first use of the term (#1) , exemplary definitions (#2,#3, #4 AND #5), evidence of the establishment of the S-DE profession (#6,#7, #8) and the confusion associated with the term (#9).

References spanning more than one year (per requirement to be included in Wiktionary): 1) VMWare: February 2014 VMware Partner Exchange “VMwarePEX Day 1 Keynote Wrap Up of Software Defined Enterprise”, from this Day 1 Wrap Up “This year VMware introduced a new term to the partner community, the Software-Defined Enterprise”. 2) VMWare: 2014 VMware Forum Keynote Presentation :“ Realizing the Software-Defined Enterprise”, at this conference. From the keynote presentation, S-DE is defined as “A self-service infrastructure that conforms to Enterprise IT requirements”. In this article, VM describes the software-defined enterprise as consisting of three major parts: network, storage and data center. 3) Dell: ITWORLD CANADA 2014 event Dell Keynote Presentation: “Dell Software Defined Enterprise: A practical vision of future ready IT”. From the keynote presentation, S-DE is defined as “An agile efficient foundation for growth everywhere” 4) CIO Insight 2014: “The Race for the Software-Defined Enterprise”, in this article the S-DE definition is referred to by “What initially started out as an effort to create the software-defined data center is now a race to define the software-defined enterprise in a way that brings server, network and storage management under one common framework.” 5) Wired: Article “Software-Defined Enterprises Are the Future”, defines S-DE as “organizations to revolutionize their business model by establishing software as a core strategy, enabled by private or hybrid cloud solutions”. 6) Indeed.com: Salary analysis for “Software-Defined Enterprise Specialist” 7) LinkedIn: Professional category on linked in for S-DE Specialist – members are from VMware and Dell so far. 8) Software-Defined Enterprise World Forum 2015: http://softwaredefined-enterprise.com/ 9) Computer Weekly: Article illustrating confusion around Software-Defined Enterprise/Everything states : “And although "software-defined everything" (SDE) heralds a return to the tried-and-tested three-letter acronym (TLA) formula, its precise meaning to many CIOs is as nebulous as its more descriptive predecessor used to be.”

In light of your comments and above, should I propose the definition to Wiktionary, modify my previous submission, or do both?

This is proposed entry for Wiktionary that I would submit via its portal if you agree:

Noun Software-Defined Enterprise (Software-Defined Enterprises) 1. (management) An enterprise is deemed software-defined when it’s business model, governance and management system, policies, programs and services are defined using software by those responsible for collaboratively discharging the enterprise’s mandate in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles and Practices. 2. (Information and Communications Technology) A Software-Defined Enterprise that is represented such that it may be automatically deployed to enterprise information systems and equipment. 3. (computer science) The software-generated data in open standard format that represents an enterprise and that may be deployed using open standard network protocols to the enterprise’s devices, application software, network infrastructure and storage equipment. 4. (change management) a Software-Defined Enterprise that represents the results of a business transformation exercise; also referred to as a Software-Redefined Enterprise.

Immeasurable thanks, Daood 134.117.249.65 (talk) 18:49, 5 June 2015 (UTC) 134.117.249.65 (talk) 18:49, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

@134.117.249.65:/Daood, I don't know about Wikitionary, sorry- from what you've said, it sounds like that would be an acceptable entry for Wikitionary.

Those sources would also be good for the Misplaced Pages draft- if you add those sources to Draft:Software-Defined Enterprise, I think it's got a decent chance of being accepted, as I think 8 of those sources look to be reliable sources (Misplaced Pages doesn't accept LinkedIn as a reliable source)- if you could find a few more similar sources about the topic, that would increase the chances of it being accepted on Misplaced Pages.

Personally, it seems like doing both is a viable option to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:18, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Email

Have you been watching my talk page? TeaLover1996 (talk) 00:19, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, your page is on my watchlist for some reason. They've tried to start a discussion at Talk:OWSLA about it now, like I suggested. I've explained a few times to them that "Email me" isn't a reliable source. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm not annoyed buddy, just that you mentioned on the talk page of the user that And telling people to email you isn't the correct way either and I wondered how you knew that, but don't worry, I was just wondering thats all.Thank You! TeaLover1996 (talk) 00:30, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

They used "I work for the company, email me about it" as an edit summary as well, which was how I originally found it. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:35, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Online petition edits.

I don't quite understand the need for a citation on common knowledge. I can show actual examples of this happening; libel, uninformed masses being encouraged to sign under deception, multiple signatures from the same household, activists with hacked email accounts of anti supporters bragging about using them to add signatures out of malice..... I can also show actual examples of where I've signed petitions as "Bill gates" and "Victoria Stilwell". What exactly do you need as a citation, this is no secret, these sites are corrupt as hell, I've been the target of harassment, had libelous petitions removed after having to involve the EU commission because the sites didn't want to know, had my inbox more or less blocked with spam emails telling me some moron has started a petition and every time there's 10 new signatures I get an email in an attempt to bully me into changing a course of action..... all of this is personal experience, and not just based on a sample of 1 instance. I'm well versed in the negative aspects of online petitions and am speaking as an authority from the shitty end of the stick these sites create. What do you need as evidence or proof? Buckmysalls (talk) 01:11, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I assume you're the same person as the IP who asked exactly the same question at User talk:Winner 42 after making exactly the same edits. The answer is that everything added to Misplaced Pages needs to be properly verifiable- saying "I know it's true" isn't good enough, as anyone could say that, and there's no verifiable record of it actually being true. Therefore, everything added needs to be supported by reliable sources, to maintain the verifiable credability of the encyclopedia. Also, read WP:NPOV, the tone of this is not neutral, it's arguing a point that online petitions harass. If this is true, find some sources supporting it, and add it in an unbiased way. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:16, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

It is unbiased, I'm simply stating a fact that can be shown times over. Unless someone states this to begin with there won't ever be a source. Well, here it is, here's the source, it's on Misplaced Pages. An online petition with zero substance, flawed argument, based on incorrect or false information, then targeted at an individual or organization and encouraged to be spread on social media is harassment. It's not difficult to prove, these sites are packed with examples. It's not just a case of "I know it's true", it's undeniable, the evidence is as plain as the nose on your face, 5 minutes spent on these sites and even the most critical could be convinced. Are you implying it's not true unless I can copy and paste a link from another site stating exactly the same? What makes a source credible? Thing is, it's common knowledge amongst activists, that's why they use these sites, that's why they use this technique, the sites themselves exist to rake in dorrah so they're not likely to own up to being conduits for harassment, but the very nature of the sites and the more malicious users do exactly that. I can link to an example of exactly that if it helps and explain exactly why it's flawed, give evidence of malicious intent, examples of an individual using multiple emails and accounts to sign several times, all on one petition. Would that do as a credible citation? Buckmysalls (talk) 01:36, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

05:54:30, 7 June 2015 review of submission by Amarecanbhai

• Amarecanbhai (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:HeroTalkies (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Just need some help on knowing how many reference citations do I need to add to the article for it to be approved, and also a little help with images. Thanks.

Amarecanbhai (talk) 05:54, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Hoy Kangaloid (talk) 06:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kangaloid: Thank you, but I'm not an admin. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:34, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 24, 2015)

An example of sport – a view of the 1906 unofficial Olympic Games Hello, Joseph2302. The following are WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selections: Sport Global cuisine Caramel Arctic Candy apple Previous selections: Buggy (automobile) • Types of chocolate • Deep frying Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: EuroCarGT (talk) 00:14, 8 June 2015 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

01:39:36, 8 June 2015 review of submission by SG Ultima

• SG Ultima (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Xtreme Chaotix (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Joseph, just saw your comments on the draft page for "Xtreme Chaotix," in particular regarding how "much of the information is unsourced, and so is original research, which is not permitted."

Appreciate if you can help identify which parts are you referring that are unsourced. Unfortunately, as the organisation was dissolved, the website with relevant information regarding its existence and history cannot be found today (other than through info provided by its founding members and remnant articles from forums or websites). I have loads of documents officially recognising sponsorship from international brands, and images of our organisation winning major gaming championships. Would those help?

Also appreciate if you can elaborate why this is not suitable for wikipedia, since the idea for generating this page was inspired from another local gaming team under the article "PMS Asterisk" - which seem to source most of the info from the creator's personal blog.

Thanks!

SG Ultima (talk) 01:39, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Just to clarify, the topic isn't unsuitable for Misplaced Pages, the amount of original research and unsourced content is unsuitable. There are about 6 whole paragraphs of text without any reliable sources to support them- unsourced sections count as original research. If the organisation is actually notable, per WP:GNG and WP:ORG, then sources other than their official, and apparently now defunct, website will support the claims you make in a draft- generally using primary sources for anything other than basic information is discouraged anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:56, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Jimi Hendrix and acid rock

Hi! Would you care to comment at this RfC? It is about the article Jimi Hendrix and whether "acid rock" warrants inclusion in the infobox. Dan56 (talk) 04:05, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

With respect, RfCs aren't really my thing, and I especially don't like getting involved in controversial topics where I have no subject knowledge. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Shagadelicbasil23 popping up

Hi, I've noticed that you have been involved in the blocking of User:Shagadelicbasil23 and finding the other accounts used by them. I think 101.160.12.43 is a sock puppet because of very similar edits, pages they edited, tags etc. I am unsure of the formal process and exactly what to do when reporting it to the sock puppet case page, and I know it is even harder when it is an IP address, so I thought it would be useful to make you aware of it, since you have had quite a bit of success so far. Thanks Flickerd (talk) 11:57, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

@Flickerd: Yes, looks like a duck to me- lots of small, consecutive edits, all on cricket/AFL pages (which were the only ones Shagadelicbasil23 edited), every edit tagged as a "Mobile edit, Mobile web edit". As it's an IP address, no-one will run a Checkuser on it (since the results would probably be considered as outing), but I'll file an SPI and see what happens. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:05, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Flickerd (talk) 12:09, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Time zones

Hello Joseph2302, Thank you for spotting that error for me, I am using a template and I must of forgot to change the time zones. Thanks once again. Skyblueshaun (talk) 16:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for adding the information. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:08, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Block Notice

I know its an admins job not mine to add block notices, I thought that I would save an admin time by doing it myself, thats all TeaLover1996 (talk) 16:36, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

But thanks for your message in this matter TeaLover1996 (talk) 17:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

00:56:50, 9 June 2015 review of submission by Harmonslide

• Harmonslide (talk · contribs)
  • User:Harmonslide/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'd like to contest the deletion of the submission page below (on ribosomal natural products) as I believe the "copyright infringement" judgment have been made in error. I've re-reviewed the material, which was written independently (not copied from other sources) and which has a unique organization and set of figures (none of which are copied). I believe the appearance of "close paraphrasing" is a misreading of the Duplicate Detector report, as detailed on my "Contested Deletion" help page. Thank you for your time--I'm hoping this can be cleared up! If I missed something huge, I'd like to know. Harmonslide (talk) 00:56, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Harmonslide/sandbox. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:05, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the Mary Ann Tighe page

Joseph2302, I'm just thanking you for your help on the Mary Ann TIghe Misplaced Pages page; and I have what I hope is a brief question -- it's on my Talk page under your comment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Botteghe_Oscure#To_Joseph2302.2C_thank_you_so_much_for_your_help_on_the_Mary_Ann_TIghe_Wikipedia_page

Thanks again, Botteghe Oscure (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Replied at your talkpage. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:26, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Today's articles for improvement weekly vote

• Hello Joseph2302:

This week's voting for TAFI's upcoming weekly collaborations has begun at Week 27 of 2015. Thanks for participating!

Things to consider while creating brand page on wikipedia

Hello,

I am new to Misplaced Pages & I have seen that there are lots of company (brand) pages in wikipedia. I don't want to promote any business but would like to create a page for new brand in wikipedia & follow all the guidelines of wikipedia.

Can you give me information of how to create a brand page in wikipedia without violating its guidelines?

Shimpchimp (talk) 05:26, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Request on 13:47:22, 9 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by ForeitN

• ForeitN (talk · contribs)
  • User:ForeitN (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thanks for taking the time to help review my first Misplaced Pages entry for the Perry Center. I see that you declined the posting because I had copied some material over from our own annual report, which is public domain, as we are a part of the Department of Defense. I have no problems making changes to the text of my article entry, but I am unable to retrieve any of the content that I created. Is there a way I can get it back so I can make edits to comply with the proper rules?

Best regards,

-Nick

ForeitN (talk) 13:47, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

June 2015

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at User talk:Noyster, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Check for edit conflicts more carefully so you don't remove talkpage comments. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:52, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Joseph2302: Did you mean to warn yourself? I mean, I no it's been a slow day, but-! _Fortuna 18:02, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I do it from time to time. It's a legitimate complaint, it just happens I was the first to notice it. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:05, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

We need to have a chat

Joseph,

You continue to mark my article for deletion. The only reason why I can see you doing this is due to poor referencing, to which I am in the process of fixing. If you have a problem with the article subject itself, or do not have positive opinions on Mr. Toner, Misplaced Pages is not the place to express it.

Sasha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SashaRearick (talk • contribs) 18:39, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

I gave my advice as a full explanation yesterday at Draft talk:James V. Toner- without decent sources, there is no evidence that he's notable. But you decided to ignore advice and publish it anyway. Also, sign your posts with ~~~~ Joseph2302 (talk) 18:43, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Health Redemption challenge

Please have a little patience. The Health Redemption challenge is work in progress and could take a day or two for completion. There are considerable references and other notable materials. Healthredemption (talk) 19:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

@Healthredemption: It has already been deleted by @FreeRangeFrog:. The main problem wasn't that there were no references, it was the tone of the article, it contained lots of marketing speech, which isn't neutral tone or at all encyclopedic. If you want to recreate it, I recommend creating a draft article using Misplaced Pages:Article Wizard, noting that the tone must be neutral, per WP:NPOV and that you need to add reliable sources to show why it's notable, per WP:GNG and WP:ORG- Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources is good for this.

Also, do you work for the organisation, if so you have a conflict of interest, and WP:COI discourages you from creating the page. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:45, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Note their account has been soft blocked, per WP:ISU. §FreeRangeFrog 19:47, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Noted. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:51, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

My status on the Pleime campaign

Joseph, What is the status of my The Pleime campaign's submission. I can no more access the discussion of it.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 20:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

The submission is at Draft:The Pleime Campaign. As I've noted there, when I asked for advice at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Military history, they agreed that most of the content of this submission already exists at Battle of Ia Drang, because you added it to that page. There's no need for 2 articles about basically the same thing, which is why I declined it. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:09, 9 June 2015 (UTC)