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Balšić noble family

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Please ensure you are familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive, until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively could result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you.--Zoupan 20:02, 21 June 2015 (UTC) Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at Souliotes. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted or removed.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive, until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively could result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you.Alexikoua (talk) 20:04, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid you need to convince the entire academic community for this. For example G. Kretsi (also a famous Albannologists) states that: The Albanian-speaking Christian population in Thesprotia are known as "Arbanits" and are very rarely characterized as "Christian Chams". ], a fact you are eager to add on the first line in Souliotes. Misplaced Pages isn't the place to declare war against a well established bibliography.Alexikoua (talk) 11:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

The name Cham, together with that of the region, Chameria, is from an extinct local Slavic *čamŭ, itself from the local Greek hydronym Thyamis (Θύαμις in Greek, Kalamas in Albanian). A folk etymology attributes the name to Turkish cami (Greek tzami), literally, 'mosque-goer, mosque attendee' which presumably was used by Orthodox Christians for the descendents of Muslim converts. However, this is unlikely since the word's broader ethnographic and dialectal sense encompasses the entire Albanian-speaking population of the Thesprotia and Preveza regional units of Greek Epirus, both the Muslim and Christian populations. -----Source en.Misplaced Pages.org

My second reference : <ref name = ethnologist>Laurie Kain Hart. Culture, Civilization, and Demarcation at the Northwest Borders of Greece. American Ethnologist, Vol. 26, No. 1 (Feb., 1999), pp. 196-220. Published by: Blackwell Publishing on behalf of the American Anthropological Association "Finlay's late 19th century impression gives some impressions of the social complexity of social categories in this area. To begin with, the Souliotes (celebrated by Byron and in Greek national history for their role in the liberation of Greece) were a "branch of the Tchamides, one of the three great divisions of the Tosks" (Finlay 1939:42)-in other words they initially spoke Albanian... the question of a national identity can hardly be applied here"</ref

I have more references than your and I have Finley's reference who wasn't greek or albanian.~~~~

Disruptive editing

Your edits are disruptive. I am the one who added the theories in the first place. You are POV-pushing. Refrain from editing without concensus. It is not disputed that the family was Serb (part of the Serbian state, legacy, etc, identified as Serb), but there are theories that they had non-Slavic origin.--Zoupan 07:17, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

It is clear that you have no intent to contribute to Misplaced Pages. "I don't care about your stupid boycott ,I just see the sources", "It not for sure that Balsic family is serb, so stop your foolish editings ..as for my editing they aren't disruptive as they are based on references".--Zoupan 10:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert about the Balkans

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The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding the Balkans, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Template:Z33--Δρ.Κ.  07:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

1. Vladimir Orel, Albanian Etymological Dictionary, s.v. "çam" (Leiden: Brill, 1998), 49-50.
2. Cite error: The named reference Xhufi was invoked but never defined (see the help page).