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Hello, welcome to my talk page brothers and sisters, please comment below if you want to discuss anything.

A beer for you!

Thanks for helping tidy up the info box in the new Bumpers article. I have enjoyed all of our discussions. You have a lot of terrific ideas for articles. Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:40, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

A propos of nothing....

...I think your username is quite clever. BMK (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks BMK I thought it was a nice little tribute to Grace Slick. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2015

Yep, and I like the allusion to The Grateful Dead as well. (Jefferson Airplane/Starship was at one time my favorite band. Saw them once at Radio City Music Hall, but Slick wasn't in the band at that point.) BMK (talk) 23:25, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I had the opportunity to see Jefferson Starship two years ago. Only has Paul Kanter these days, but was still an excellent performance. It's a shame I couldn't see Jefferson Airplane/Starship at the pinnacle of their existence. It has been a dream of mine to see Slick live (though I know I probably never will), she and Janis Joplin, in my opinion, are the best female vocalists I ever had the privilege to listen to. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2015

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Here is a Barnstar for your tireless work creating new articles, improving old ones and for persevering at all odds. Keep it up. This is a psychedelic spinning star! Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Ultimate Spinach

Since I visited the article nearly 2 years ago I do not remember it's state at that time. You did a good job fleshing things out. I feel like I have a better idea of what the group was about and their impact on the music of the day. I have not checked the plagiarism that seemed to exist when I last visited. There were a few instances of grammatical clumsiness which I tweaked. Again, thanks for your effort. From my standpoint, you improved the article.THX1136 (talk) 16:32, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

rude people

Misplaced Pages full of rude people that it is nice when you leave a message that is not rude. You are clearly getting the point across in a reasonable way without being a bully. Dharahara (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Freddie Gray

Hello... I'm having trouble understanding your deletion of the Alan Dershowitz quote from the Freddie Gray article. In your edit comment, you wrote, "Not even seen in the reference." But I quoted directly from the video clip at the referenced URL. (Actually, I inadvertently omitted a word without showing the omission with ellipses. Was that why you deleted the paragraph?) I have restored the deleted material, with the omitted word restored. If you think the paragraph doesn't belong, let's discuss it on the talk page. Thanks. Peter Chastain 03:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

User:Peter Chastain We generally don't use clips, but no I have no issues with it. Except does the lawyer have any connection to the case or is he just voicing an opinion?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

User:TheGracefulSlick Thanks for responding. Dershowitz has no connection with the case, but his comments, which have been widely quoted in the past 24 hours, seemed relevant in a "Public response" section. I wasn't aware that WP didn't generally use video clips. Aren't they kind of equivalent to quotes in a newspaper? Peter Chastain 03:55, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

here come the liberal thought police telling me that it is a crime to quote text from an article to try and bully me into being silent

WP:GA

The way to handle a GA nomination (GAN) is outlined at WP:GA and the assorted subpages (best to at least skim them all to get a feel for the process. If you want to see what a review might look like, I just did one for Sybil Plumlee - see Talk:Sybil Plumlee/GA1 for my review and the other editor's replies. One done by a different reviewer recently was Highland cattle, see Talk:Highland cattle/GA1 (Frankly, I'd have been a little pickier on that, but I also respect the reviewer who did the work). For a GA-class album, note Abbey Road (see Talk:Abbey Road/GA1 ) The biggest things that trip up new people are 1) Not enough material cited, or cited improperly, 2) Inconsistent formatting, 3) Problems with copyright on images, and 4) A need for copyediting. Hope this helps. (BTW, I noticed that you have a lot of uploaded images with incorrect rationales you may want to fix so they don't get deleted; album covers are copyrighted even if they are albums you own... you don't own the images ... To do an album cover, it has to be a "fair use" rationale, as was done for File:Beatles - Abbey Road.jpg). Montanabw 22:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

For your comments on my talk page. Not necessary, but certainly appreciated. It's obviously a topic that both inspires and divides people, depending on how they see it. My temperature got up extremely briefly, but I realized that you were acting in good faith based on how you saw it. I respect that you stepped back and were able to see it another way. Not easy to do. I edit on a lot of controversial sites (my blood pressure would be lower if I abstained). My goal is always to see that both sides of the story are fairly presented and let the reader draw his own conclusions. Thanks again. John2510 (talk) 02:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Interesting trivia

Did you know that Rick James and Neil Young were in the same band in the mid 60s? Yep. The band was called the Mynah Birds. Bruce Palmer (also later in Buffalo Springfield along with Neil) was in the group too. Cool huh? Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:29, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 that is interesting, I didn't know about this band surprisingly, something I should read more about. I was reading about the Music Machine (one of my favorites) and their later career as the Bonniwell Music Machine. Apparently, Bonniwell wrote over 300 compositions in the year 1967, alone, many of which were never released, but were recorded. Your fact was a lot more cooler, did the band release any singles or albums?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Interesting.Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I'm not sure if this interests you, but The Chocolate Watchband (still need to finish that article!) are releasing an album sometime this month called I'm Not Like Everybody Else. It includes the first versions of their songs with their actual lead singer, David Aguilar, instead of Don Bennett, and re-recorded versions with most of the original members. I definitely will try and buy it when it is released!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm very excited. But, I hope that they come up with some new material, too (you can't beat the original records). Hopefully, they could find a studio with all vacuum tubes and vintage recording gear (if Alec Paulo is on board, I'm sure he'll do it that way--I believe he has a studio--he is also such a great writer). They could make a masterpiece, particularly with Aguilar back in tow. Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I know what you mean, it is a shame they never had a whole LP with the actual Chocolate Watchband. I don't know how successful they would have become, but it would have made their music even more of a classic. It seems a lot of garage rock bands (The Music Machine, The Electric Prunes, Count Five, etc.) had so much potential, but something out of their control limited them to only brief success. It is encouraging though to see some of those groups reforming and still making an impact in the music world.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

It is such a glory (but at the same time a tragedy), that there were so many incredible groups in the 60s, that there was just not enough room for all of them to become successful. However, I am thankful for having each and every one of them, and I'm sure you'd agree. Amen. Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:28, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

And I also love the big acts: the Beatles, the Stones, Dylan, the Who...the list goes on and on. Imagine what it must have been like back then to go to the record store after a day of school and see the latest albums by all of these people positioned right there on the front rack. Then, after that, go home to listen to them with your friends, gathered around the record player for hours in awe. And then, the next day be rehearsing with those same friends as a band in the garage. Imagine having an band on every other block in your neighborhood keeping the whole Pleasant Oak subdivision awake! Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 Of course, don't get me wrong I love the big guys, especially the Doors, the Stones, and the Animals. I am actually lucky enough to have record stores nearby, but the same experience from the 60s cannot be replicated. It is truly inspirational to read about all the group's that went out and performed, even if they aren't quite as respected as the chart listers.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I have always thought that garage rock, though part of the whole tumultuous change in the 60s, retained an element of what Lester Bangs referred to as "Old America." If Beaver, from the 50s sitcom, Leave it to Beaver, could have been around in the 60s he would have had a garage band. Well, guess what...he did!!! Jerry Mathers, who had earlier played Beaver, had a 60s garage rock band called Beaver and the Trappers. They recorded a song called "Happiness is Havin'" and I think few others. Check it out on Youtube!!!Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I just posted a (way too short) new article on The Bruthers. If you buy the Rolling Stones Ed Sullivan DVD, you will notice something interesting. The Bruthers recorded the background track used by The Muppets on the Sep. 18, 1966 Ed Sullivan Show. Go to Youtube and check it out (prompt "Muppets Rock Ed Sullivan 1966"). On the original performance, Ed Sullivan accidently refers to the Jim Hanson as "Jim Newsome." I think the guy on Youtube auto-correted it, but on the DVD you hear Sullivan's original introduction. As I was telling a friend, "even the Muppets did punk way before the Sex Pistols!" Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:21, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the tidy-up on the Missing Links' article... As you were scrolling down the comments next to my edits and reading my citations and added text, you must have been having a good laugh. You probably enjoyed reading the loads of trivia associated with what is arguably the most "bad-ass," crazy, and (in the words on Marks & McIntyre) "dysfunctional" band in in history of rock (sorry, The Saints and AC/DC ain't got nuthin' on the Missing Links). I was seriously thinking about naming the Origins section "Origins of the species" or "Missing cro-magnon link" and the "Lineup changes" section "Dysfunction" (sourced, of course), and then the "Legacy" section "Notoriety." But, I did't want the Wiki police to take me away and lock me up in the edit-block cell. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:51, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I actually have a story of a psychedelic rock group called The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band (awesome name, right?), by the way their song "Eighteen Is Over the Hill" has some of the best vocal harmonies I've experienced. Anyways, my father, who was a sound engineer before joining the Army, actually met Bob Markley in the eighties. Apparently they worked on demos together, and my father has some of the tapes, but, as Markley is trademarked for, it was kinda rambling and paranoid. Those tapes must be priceless, but I would never sell them anyways. Interesting enough, they remained friends and there is actually a picture of Markley holding me as a child in 1997. Around that time, Markley disappeared and never spoke to anyone from our family again. He was a mysterious man, he is gone now, but his death is also a mystery. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 14:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

That is really cool. I'll have to check out The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band--I've heard their name before, but I've never gotten a chance to hear them--they must be incredible. As you can tell, from some of my long-winded citations in the Missing Links' article, that I am fascinated with sound recording/production/engineering, though I have never gotten a chance to actually work in a studio (and I'm not so sure I'd want to today, in this digital, 125-track era). I have poured over the pages (a million times) in Lewinson's book and learned so much about how recording was done then. As you can guess, I am particularly interested in vintage recording techniques and equipment: vacuum tubes, live echo chambers, Fairchild compressors, classic mikes, etc. There was a naturalness, a life, a trueness--an incandescent magic to be found in the sound of so many of those old recordings from the 60s--I guess that it started with the musicians themselves, but then was captured in the right kind of way by the producers and engineers. I would guess that your father probably started working in studios a bit later (let me guess, the 80s?), but I'm sure that he would appreciate the recording techniques of the 60s, and knows a good bit about the vintage stuff. Garagepunk66 (talk) 03:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 yeah he worked in the mid-eighties, mostly on rereleases of sixties groups actually, so I think he has a great respect for the era. As for the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band (WCPAEB to shorten things) they have an unusual history, which is reflected by their music. I can't really explain, it is something you need to experience. I'm guessing you love The Electric Prunes then for what they accomplished on four-track, or some of those other groups like Fifty Foot Hose or United States of America, both of whom were innovative in a league of their own.

Well, of course, I mainly love them for their wonderful music which would have been great one way or another. But, I love the way back then, the studio didn't get in the way of the music, as has been so often done for the last 30-40 years. They just gave the musicians a chance to just do their thing. With a four track, there is less tendency to over-mike everything, because you don't want to waste tracks. For instance then they were not going to put twenty microphones on one drum set back then. They would usually put one mike overhead, then maybe one or two others here and there. And in the mixing, they did not have the kind of digital sound "enhancements" that are used today, although there were certain kinds of analogue effects in the 60s.Garagepunk66 (talk) 05:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Some trivia: You would be really surprised to know that in the last few years, I have become good friends with someone who was a member of a sixties garage band--he owns a local guitar shop and that is how I met him. He was a member of the Gaunga Dyns, who recorded several songs, amongst them "Rebecca Rodifier," (which he co-wrote), which has become their most celebrated song, although it was not their best-selling at the time. Play it and some of their other great songs on Youtube. The song is a saga of a girl, who dies from having an abortion (back then it was illegal, so many women had to have it done in "back room," which was highly dangerous). It was probably the first (and in my mind best) rock song about that sensitive topic, long before "Bodies," by the Sex Pistols, and in my mind it is much more reasonable and subtle in its handling of the topic. The Gauna Dyns' best-selling record at the time was "Stick with Her," which had originally been recorded by the Glass Cans, from Houston. I would love to do an article on them, but I will have to limit myself only to external sources. There is a lot I know about them, that I will have to leave out, because I cant't put in anything based on first-hand information. But man are there some stories! Hey by the way, It appears that the problems with my talk page are fixed and that it is running properly again, so you are welcome to post and comment there, as before. Garagepunk66 (talk) 04:10, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

L.A. Woman

I made a couple of touch-ups and slight corrections on the L.A. Woman article. I'm sure that you will like them. I will look at some of the other articles when I get a chance. Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:23, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I hope you like most of my touch-ups. It might be best to say that it is the first album to "picture" Jim Morrison bearded--to just say he is bearded may confuse the reader. So, we need to point out that little detail. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I wrote it that way because it is a quote, but I think the reader can get the idea by reading the whole quote.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:22, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

We can try it in different way, but having the word "pictured"--encyclopedic language has to be laser-precise. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:24, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I just tried a paraphrased version of the idea, that i think you will like. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:40, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

In the part we have been discussing, there is not a begin-quotation mark. We need to put one in so we can signify where the quote begins. I will insert a begin-quotation mark. If I do it wrong, you can correct me, because you know the quote. Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

There was a beginning quote. The quote begins "I wasn't .... . Other than that, I think the quote is good now.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:08, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

OK. I'm on a public pay-as-you-go computer (I'm running out of bills), so I will log off. Thanks for all of your great work. I wish you and your family a happy Memorial Day weekend! Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:12, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 you too, I appreciate a knowledgable person such as yourself helping me out.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:14, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I screwed up on the statement about Morrison's beard yesterday. I didn't realize that the quote had begun a few sentences previous--I was in a hurry on that god-awful pay computer (sometimes on the edit page, everything looks like a blob--Wiki ought to color-key the reference blocks, to make the text part easier to decipher). Also: I was thinking that, once I can get a reference and citation, we can re-instate the comment about Pamela Courson (as part of that multiple-meaning metaphor in the song, "L.A." Woman). It is mentioned in the DVD documentary on the making of the album, and if I remember, I read it in book awhile back, I believe Dany Sugarman's, but it may be a different book. When Morrison sings: "I see your a hair-burnin.' Hills are filled with fire. If they say I never loved you, you know they are a liar," he is making, not only a sunset metaphor about the city he loved, speaking of the city as if a lady (that he was about to leave to go to Paris), but also a literal reference to his companion, Pamela Courson, who had red hair. He can also be seen as connecting L.A. to Paris when he says "City of Light." Morrison was such a great lyricist in the may he expressed things that could be interpreted on so may levels, simultaneously. By the way, I think that the song, "L.A. Woman" is the Doors greatest moment (the album too, which I put right up there with their first). Garagepunk66 (talk) 21:18, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I was just glad that we could come to a mutual understanding. I don't like having to critique someone because I'm afraid I might hurt their feelings. I had no issue with the Courson reference (though maybe it could fit better in L.A. Woman (song)), I just prefer to wait for a source. I trust you were right, regardless. My favorite song from the album was "Riders on the Storm", and it's tied with "When the Music is Over" as my favorite overall.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:33, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Great songs!Garagepunk66 (talk) 18:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I made a couple of other minor touch-ups that I think you will like on the L.A. Woman article. Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:26, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I liked the touch ups, but I kinda liked how it described Morrison Hotel as a transitional album.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

It was indeed a transitional album, but the term "transitional" is not normally used as a descriptor of style, per se, but rather to describe something's place in a process. But, we could find a way to mention (somewhere else in the section) about Morrison Hotel being a transitional album (on the way to L.A. Woman). In the overall passage, we need to find a way to make it more clear to the reader that Morrison Hotel came in between Soft Parade and L.A. Woman. By the way, I like he phrase a lot that you put in: "simplified and straightforward" (describing the style of Morrison Hotel). That sounds really good. One little thing: we usually do not say that style "manifests" from something, but that it is the "style of...", so it would be better just to say: "style of Morrison Hotel..." But, don't worry. Editing isn't supposed to be easy. It involves writing and re-writing (gosh, I have to re-edit myself a lot). It takes time to arrive at the best possible way of saying things. With just a few more touch-ups, we can get the wording just right. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Re: vandalism threats

Let me know if you'd like your talk- and userpages semiprotected for a few days. Bishonen | talk 21:20, 26 May 2015 (UTC).

Done. Bishonen | talk 22:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC).

Thanks Bishonen, hopefully the IP won't bother anyone anymore.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

• Also semi-protected User:TheGracefulSlick/Sandbox for a month. If you want any other user pages protected (or, protections changed), just ask. Abecedare (talk) 00:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:ANI

IP address 82.132.225.224 has posted a message at WP:ANI#Message for TheGracefulSlick saying they want to talk to you but can't, and asking for you to reply to them there. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:04, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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The United States of America

I've just discovered an interview with Dorothy Moskowitz in Shindig! magazine, #42, with a lot of interesting detail - http://www.shindig-magazine.com/ Don't know if you've seen it? When I have time, I'll add details to the relevant articles. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:37, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Ghmyrtle thanks for showing me this, I was not aware of the interview (though I should have been!). I have been busy with some Rolling Stones songs, but I look forward to the interview's worthwhile information.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 13:52, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

My talk page

Don't worry about it. I really don't care what gets posted on my talk page. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 06:47, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

On my talk page...

My talk page is getting pretty full now, so I am going to put most of its threads into the archive. But, I always enjoy your thoughts and ideas. So, after I put everything in the archive, you can just start up a new thread on my talk page and go from there. Thanks, Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:13, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your feed back on Pitche Blende

Thanks for your comments and tweaks on Pitche Blende! I also started improving on the Venus and the Razorblades page as its in dire need of citations and references! I also started a Roni Lee page too! I'm very interested in these bands and the artists....many are still playing and trying to make their way. They are legacy artists who have been forgotten but deserve their place in the rock & roll hall of Misplaced Pages! Feel free to tweak all you want! I've been able to find most of the PB band members and Suzi Quatro, Slush members and some Saginaw people from that era. Thanks Bebfire (talk) 07:00, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Thanks for your contributions to the articles of Psychedelic music of the 60's & 70's! A big milkshake goes with that! Bebfire (talk) 14:37, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Did some touch-ups and added a few sources on The Barbarians article

I did a bunch of touch-ups and improvements and added a few new sources on the Barbarians' article. We're going to have to find some more sources there. That article is a work in progress. While I was at it (don't be mad), I went over to the "Moulty" (song) article and made a couple of minor tid-bits in what is otherwise a darn near perfect article. I hope you don't mind, but I think you will like those very minor changes. I like that article a lot. Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:08, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Having a technical problem on my personal talk page

You sent me a message, but something is wrong with my talk page, where I cannot see some of its contents--I have to got to History and look act "current"/"previous" to see what the message is. My new messages don't show, either, unless I go to the History tab to see them. So, for the next few days, we can confer on your talk page, until I get that situation fixed. As for the citaitons, I know what you are referring to, but I am so busy trying to get the article I'm working on re-written, that I don't have the time to worry about the citation format. But, I can go back later and tidy it up. Garagepunk66 (talk) 02:45, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 it is important to get in the habit of doing that from now on. I will be happy to fix the issue when I finish editing Syndicate of Sound sometime tomorrow.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:58, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, put the citation formula here (where I can see it clearly and be able to properly respond), but keep in mind I am really busy doing a thorough re-write of the Sons od Adam article, so technicalities are the last thing on my mind (until I finish this most difficult writing assignment). That formula seems a bet weird, and might get in the way of my writing. I like to move fast. I usually get Bonnie13J (talk) to re-do the citation format for me after I finish writing. It's not that I don't know about this, it's just that I have never taken the time to study it. I just write, write, write... Garagepunk66 (talk) 03:12, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 thhe format is like a usual ref, but for the initial ref include < ref name="name" > at the beginning before the citation and then just write < ref name="name"/ > for every time it is used again.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 03:33, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Man that is easy as pie. Thanks so much. I'll be sure to do that from now on. I've just always focused mainly on the writing part so much, that I cast a blind eye towards some of the nuts and bolts things. By the way, I hope that my talk page will be back to its normal functions soon. As for your talk page, be sure to read and respond on the Trivia section now and then--just for fun. Garagepunk66 (talk) 05:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I notice that you follow < ref name="name"/ > with

The Electric Prunes

Whoa!!! It may be an improvement overall, but I'm not at all sure about some details in your edits there. As a general point, in my view it's never a good idea to rewrite the intro section of an article before rewriting the rest of the article - the intro is supposed to summarise the article, not add new material. And, ideally you are not supposed to have citations in the lead. "Named, in part, as a reflection of the group's sound" - very dubious (I thought it was mainly a joke) - and in any case not important enough for the opening sentence. "An eerie and sometimes anguished ambience..." - again, not sure about that. "Material by songwriters Annette Tucker and Jill Jones, though the group also penned their own songs..." - a lot of their early material was self-penned, and Tucker wrote more with Nancie Mantz than with Jones. "Avant-garde rock" - not really, in comparison with (say) Red Krayola, The United States of America (expanded article being created), or Fifty Foot Hose. "Guitarist James Lowe" - the main guitarist, and source of the electronic effects, was Ken Williams, not Lowe. So... could you look again at what you've written, and make sure it's both accurate, and a good summary of the article? Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:11, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Ghmyrtle you made a point about the name and the songwriting thing was a dumb misreading of references. However, Richie Unterberger described their music as "avant-garde rock", which is why I described it that way. He also explains why, describing the electronics. Would it be best just to say electronic rock? Also, the first album only featured two Prunes originals, and the second didn't even feature half of their own writings, so how can it be said they wrote most of their early material? The "eerie and sometimes anguished" line was from the CD booklet (not copied though) so I was just reading what the reference said. Sorry, I didn't mean to cause trouble.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 17:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

That's better! You're not causing trouble at all - you're doing really good work, but I thought I'd flag up a couple of points rather than either reverting you (which would have been too harsh) or taking the trouble to rewrite it myself (which I don't have time to do at the moment). When I get the USA article out of the way, I may have a look at the Prunes then. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Pitche Blende

Hi, Im still working on the Pitche Blende article and if you have any ideas of anything to contribute, I would be forever grateful as I am just getting the hang of wiki! I found Laurie Seaman. She has a website lauriesmusic.com and has given me alot of information. I guess someone will be writing an article in"ugly things" magazine about P.B. More to come! many thanks! Bebfire (talk) 18:20, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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The Electric Prunes

Hey TheGracefulSlick, this is Frankzappatwin. I see you did some re-editing on the Electric Prunes pages I added to last week. As a relatively new contributor to Misplaced Pages, I was not aware of the protocol that you cited. Thanks for making me aware of this. Frankzappatwin (talk) 21:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Frankzappatwin I was hoping you saw that since that is the norm for track lists and credits of sorts. It was an honest mistake so I wasn't going to confront you about it, but try to edit by that style from now on. Thanks for your interest in the music though!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Not a problem, like I said, thanks for making me aware of it. I will review some of my earlier contributions as well...I see that you fixed some Spencer Davis also.Frankzappatwin (talk) 22:52, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Electric Prunes

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Electric Prunes you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Garagepunk66 -- Garagepunk66 (talk) 02:40, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I've had a go at expanding the Dave Hassinger and Annette Tucker articles. There may be one or two nuggets (!) in there that you two could think about including in the Prunes article - I'll leave it up to you. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:43, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

PS: You may like this! Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I went in and did the addendum to the review. I placed the G.A. listing in a new template at the top of the article talk page. I'm guessing that the little bot (above) will electronically complete the classification process by removing the old junk in the templates right under the G.A. listing I put in. If the that doesn't happen, maybe I should go and do it myself (but would that get me in trouble?). As far as I am concerned the article is now G.A. and should be officially recognized as such. Garagepunk66 (talk) 18:53, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Electric Prunes

The article The Electric Prunes you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Electric Prunes for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Garagepunk66 -- Garagepunk66 (talk) 09:41, 3 July 2015 (UTC).

Congratulations on the G.A.! Garagepunk66 (talk) 00:14, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Handpolk

TGS, don't post on Handpolk's page again. There may I suppose come a situation when it's unavoidable, but that's absolutely not while the user is blocked. I'm serious. Bishonen | talk 11:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

Dr. Spec's Optical Illusion (singular--no "s" at end)

Hey, I see that you're beginning the article on Dr. Spec's. One little thing: they did not have an "s" on the end of their name, at least after they became known as Dr. Spec's Optical Illusion. I realize that they had previously been called the Illusions, but once the "Dr. Spec's" got added, the "s" got taken away.

You mention that they recorded for Flambeau records. I'll give you a little background: as you may know, in New Orleans a flambeau (or flambeaux) (note the French spelling, because in the 1800's much of the city still spoke French) is a flame-torch carrier in nighttime a Mardi Gras parade. In the old days, before the advent of electric lights, the flambeaus were necessary to make the floats and marching units visible at night, so a lot of flambeaus would crowd around the floats to illuminate them. However, today the older style night parades still use flambeaus. Needless to say the sight of the flame torches billowing with smoke and the orange glow of fire illuminating the highly-decorated papiér-maché floats, decorated with strips of gold leaf, as well as marchers, riders on horses, etc. is an awe-inspiring sight. I don't know if you visited at Mardi Gras, but if you did, you know what I'm talking about, particularly if you saw one of the older-style parades going St. Charles Avenue uptown under the oak trees with all of the beautiful od houses in the background. I particularly love the parades that have the esoteric or satirical themes--some even still use wagon wheel floats. It is a truly psychedelic experience--almost like a hypnotic tableau, to watch one of the really beautiful night parades pass by. I grew up as a child loving it--the sight of it has permeated the very marrow of my bones. You would love it. So you could research not just the band, but also flambeaus and throw in a little anecdote about that in to describe the record label. Just as a little "grace note." Rick Stelma would have been the person I spoke to at the Ponderosa Stomp festival two years ago. The band did not play that night, but he backed up a lot of the artists on keyboards, including, get this, Ty Wagner, who was also being backed up right there with the Sloths. He backed up a lot of the other artists too. Also, see trivia above. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:24, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey, great. I noticed you made the change. Don't undervalue the song "She's the One," which may be equally if not more famous. You might want to list both songs as two sides of a single in the heading. "She's the One" is a highly regarded song amongst collectors--you want to give it a prominent mention too. When you go to Google Video or Youtube, it will usually be the first song on the que. It is included on the Teenage Shutdown Vol. 10: The World Ain't Round, It's Square compilation, which is one of the most acclaimed and highly sought after comps. in all of garageland. Whenever it temporarily goes out of print, it goes up in price sometimes (then of course goes back down)--the CD once went up to $1000 on Amazon (temporarily). That song is on it. Garagepunk66 (talk) 00:11, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

I was going by the sources, though I know the song is equally important. You can include things when it is finished shortly.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

I realize that the sub-sections are not required, but I think they make the article look better visually and help the reader break down the history and digest the information--keep in mind that these things help set a foundation for the article to grow. I am in the process of editing this and want to add more things, as you asked me to do. Please let me maximize the visual appearance and readability of the article for its best sake. I think I am operating within guidelines. I don't see where I've gone wrong. Garagepunk66 (talk) 02:49, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 articles of this length don't even get a section that says "history". By adding those subsections it actually makes it less orderly. I read about how to format an article and it says that should be avoided.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

As usual, I don't follow the Wiki manuals as much as I should, but I'll defer to your judgment on this as creator of the article. I just don't believe in treating these smaller bands as inferior or less deserving of various sections. Sometimes, I think the Wiki rules are short-sighted. But, I can't re-invent the wheel. You are right my friend. Garagepunk66 (talk) 03:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

One other thing. I want to find out if the reunion that had been planned for the 2005 Ponderosa Stomp (festival) ever took place. They were on the bill for a reunion show. I hadn't ever attended the festival then, but in 2013 it took place in October, so I am guessing that it would have been impossible to have the concert in light of Hurricane Katrina. When I returned to New Orleans from my two-month evacuation, the city was a ghost town--it was the saddest thing I've ever seen. There were only about 18,000 people living in the inner boundary of the city proper (which had had 460,000 before the storm), most of them FEMA, rescue personnel, and National Guard. Almost everyone was gone--I was one of the fist to get back. However, you have probably guessed another reason why they couldn't have played, even if the festival took place. Well, in 2013 I had that conversation w/ the former keyboardist... Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:20, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Another person I got to meet a few years ago was Cosimo Matassa, just a few years before he died. I stopped by to get a sandwich at his family's corner grocery in the Quarter. I got to talk to him, and he was the absolute kindest person you'd ever want to meet. He was up in his years, but was still like a kid inside. He really had a youthful spirit. I guess that's why so many musicians loved him. He was so unassuming, yet if it hadn't been for him, we might never have had rock & roll. Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:57, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Moulty

One of the things I like to do with articles is to trace (based on reliable sources, of course!) what happened to members of notable bands after they became famous. Moulty now runs a cleaning company in Abington, Massachusetts. There are plenty of online references to him. Do you think that should be mentioned somewhere? Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:45, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

That would be a good idea as long as you mean to add it in the Barbarians article. I don't think you are refering to the Moulty song article because in my opinion it would be a little off topic if we went that much into his life. I only talked about the beginning of his life since it was relevant to the creation of the song.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 17:54, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

All is forgiven

I am sorry if I was hard on you, and I didn't mean any offence. Try to put yourself in my shoes and imagine what I thought when I interpreted the two messages on the two pages as a message of "get lost..." Keep in mind that I equated the message on the G.R. Talk page with the one on my talk page, so I did not view them in isolation. But I was wrong to think that. I now know you didn't mean it that why. Let me also unequivocally state that there has never been a moment when you didn't have my utmost respect--not a day not a second. I am just "on the edge" right now as I know you understand and I need to take a break. Please understand how much I have invested into the G.R. article, so it is an emotional thing to me, so I' am on the edge. I know you understand that. But, don't take that to mean I'm not proud of your work, and don't think I underestimate your accomplishments which are so numerous--you have worked so hard and I will be the first to acknowledge it as I have on so may occasions. Keep in mind that we are both at the crossroads where we are trying to get to the next stage as editors, and there is a certain pressure when you get to this moment, and I would wager that you've experienced a similar thing. Please forgive me when I said that I regret the things I've done to help--I didn't mean that--it was B.S. It was a pleasure to defend you against that hostile editors--keep in mind that I put myself at risk to do that and would do it again. I hope that if I ever found myself in a similar situation, you'd do the same for me. I removed the personal argument for the garage rock talk page, as not to distract from the key topic of the thread--and to avoid you any embarrassment. I have re-instated the happy conversation on my own talk page (and taken away negative). I have deeply valued our correspondence. It has meant so much to me. I ask that you forgive any misunderstandings and see it as just a bump in the road. It's just a crucial turning point for me right now. Keep in mind that there have been people who have done much worse things at Wiki and you tried to forgive them, even when they weren't worthy. I am a conscientious and dedicated editor who shares your love of music and am worthy of being forgiven. Please understand that that Barnstar you gave me meant so much, and I haven't forgotten it--I was just afraid that maybe you had changed your mind (and that's a scary thought). The kindness and moral support you have given me has been necessary to my existence here. I have enjoyed working together, in so many cases collaborating, and look forward to doing it again. The role we play is so crucial too creating documents and narratives of obscure musicians and it is better to operate in harmony towards that pursuit. I ask for your forgiveness. Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:09, 15 July 2015 (UTC)