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I would love to get lots of support for this --- :D Derry Adama (talk)

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WP Life on Mars

FYI, I've proposed to convert WP:WikiProject Life on Mars into a taskforce of WPTV, for the discussion, see WT:WikiProject Life on Mars -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 05:54, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Moved Permanently

I am new here, why was I getting this error? HTTP 301 Moved Permanently? ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.236.88 (talk) 13:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

What were you trying to do when you got that error?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Just ignore this, it was produced by a spambot. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:03, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

TV series categories

I originally posted this on the talk page for MOS:TV, but was told it'd be better posting it here.

I've noticed this for a long time, and that's categories for TV series' are not consistent and use different wording, ex. series, show(s), and program(s). One naming style should be used across all categories for consistency, and ease of finding/adding categories. Using "series" seems to be make the most sense since that's how they're usually referred to. There's tons of other inconsistencies, such as, Television shows filmed in California, Television series shot in Los Angeles‎, Television series produced in Toronto, which all are categories having to do with filming, but all use different wording (filmed, shot, produced). Filming, which is the most dominant usage for most of the naming, should be used across all similar categories. I'm just wondering how to go about this. Anyone have any input/comments on this? Thank you. Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I favor "series" or "shows" over "programs", but I'm not sure I have a preference between the first two. They should definitely be consistent though. DonIago (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

We've previously discussed "series" and "shows" and the preference was for series. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:11, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Project related RfC

Talk:Bella and the Bulldogs#RFC: Bella and the Bulldogs controversy; valid for brief sub-topic within the article or not?. This may be of interest to the project as it involved sourcing standards for a TV series. Geraldo Perez (talk) 08:51, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi all, a second request to please consider commenting at this RfC as it does involve potentially controversial content. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:18, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Cartoonito

In this edit I removed an unsourced list of programs from Cartoonito. This is likely to ruffle some feathers. I'm under the impression that many of us don't care much for the inclusion of these large List of programming sections in articles. I don't mind being wrong, though, so if anyone has any input or castigations, please visit the article's talk page where I have opened a discussion. If as a community we don't care for these lists, we might want to talk more about them, because they're everywhere. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:21, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Removal of colour from Infobox television season

In case anybody is wondering what's happening, Alakzi is edit-warring at {{Infobox television season}}, removing the colour parameters used in thousands of articles. He has manually removed |bgcolor= from a number of articles but I have reverted these changes and I've left an edit-warring warning on his talk page about the edit-warring. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

You are invited to join the related discussion at Template_talk:Infobox_television_season#Questions_to_move_color-contrast_issues_forward_to_resolution to reach consensus on how to handle the pages tracked at Category:Articles using Template:Infobox television season with invalid colour combination—Bagumba (talk) 06:07, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Notice of two discussion at WT:ANIME

This is a notice about ongoing discussion relating to this Wikiproject. The first discussion is about whether to use the "media date" published by primary sources (ex Saturday, July 18 at 25:00) or converted the actual date (ex Sunday, July 19 at 1:00 am) as used by most secondary sources such as the Media Arts Database from Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs. The second discussion involves the need for sourcing for future air dates and whether only the first episode needs to be sourced with all other future dates calculated from it or whether all future episodes must be sourced explicitly. —Farix (t | c) 13:46, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Relations?

Are David Feige and Kevin Feige related?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:08, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Sources to establish TV "notability" question

Over at WP:FILM (specifically at WP:NFSOURCES), they say the following:

"...Examples of coverage insufficient to fully establish notability include newspaper listings of screening times and venues, "capsule reviews", plot summaries without critical commentary, or listings in comprehensive film guides such as Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide, Time Out Film Guide, or the Internet Movie Database." (emphasis mine)

My question is this: Does this thinking extend to: Tim Brooks; Earle Marsh (2003). The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows 1946–Present (Eight ed.). Ballantine Books. ISBN 0-345-45542-8. – i.e. that inclusion in Brooks & Marsh on its own isn't enough to establish TV series "notability"? Or is inclusion in Brooks & Marsh's Directory good enough to establish TV show notability? Thanks in advance... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Notability is defined as significant coverage in third party sources. Being included in a directory of shows would not be considered "significant".  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 06:17, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, it's interesting how this goes – several months back, I learned that WP:POLOUTCOMES would basically be satisfied for state legislators if they were included in a directory of state legislative office holders (as per this discussion)... So how "notability" is defined actually seems to very from subject matter to subject matter. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

The project has decided that holding certain political positions is notable in of itself and overrides all other WP:GNG considerations. Generally major politicians will have significant coverage if you look for it. A reliable directory just allows completeness and is not what establishes notability, notability is intrinsic to the position. Just like IMDb is a convenience directory we use for released project credits with the actual implied reference being the credits as listed in the film or TV episodes themselves. We could, perhaps, do something similar and declare a film notable just because it exists, but have chosen not to. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:57, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

So, bringing this back on point for WP:TELEVISION – Brooks & Marsh is to be treated like Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide, and being included in Brooks & Marsh is, in and of itself, not enough to establish TV series "notability", correct? --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:16, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Expanding WP:NOTPLOT

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Misplaced Pages talk:What Misplaced Pages is not#Expanding NOTPLOT. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 (talk) 08:43, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Requested move

It has been proposed that {{Series overview}}, a template within the scope of this project, should be moved. The discussion is at Template talk:Series overview#Requested move 27 July 2015. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Production codes and A/B carts

Hi friends, in this edit a well-meaning editor reformatted an entire season of Rocko's Modern Life. In doing so, they added A/B cart IDs to the production codes, which effectively creates new production codes that didn't exist before. For instance, S1E2 should comprise "Leap Frogs" and "Bedfellows". Previously this finished episode with two segments bore a production code of 006. Now they bear production codes 006a and 006b. I don't think it's wise for us to create new production coding. For all we know, each cart had an entirely different production coding system in use for internal billing that would not reflect 006a and 006b. I'm trying to think of a workaround for this. Is there any way to do a colspan so that both eps share one whole production code? Alternatively, would adding the carts in parens help at all, i.e. 006 (a) and 006 (b)? Any other ideas? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:10, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Whether or not Trevor St. John portrayed Todd Manning

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Todd Manning#Trevor St. John never actually portrayed Todd, that was retconned away long ago.. A WP:Permalink for that discussion is here. Flyer22 (talk) 23:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

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