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Balija page edited with proper sources but had reverted back again

Hi Sitush,

U had reverted our page again, But we had given proper sources only but u had mentioned that as Unreliable one, whats wrong with my below proof.

By Devadatta Ramkrishna Bhandarkar. It mentions an inscription edited by Dr. Fleet, Vol XIII, p.185, in which Turagavedanga (Thiruvenkata ?) is mentioned as the "scion of Bali race" as Kishkinda-puravar-sevara and Bali-vamsa-odbhava. The publication "Genealogies of the Hindus, extracted from their sacred writings, pg. 48-49" mentions.The Epigraphia Indica, by Bhandarakar, Volume 42, p. 37. Yashoda Devi mentions in her book The History of Andhra Country, 1000 A.D.-1500 A.D.: Administration, literature and society.

The above one is a strong proof and how everytime u r reverting back and we are highly disappointed due to this ,see we are describing our Heritage and its true and not a fake one right.

Not necessary for us to do this and to to edit wrong information in wiki.

Kindly check once again and revert back

Karthick

WMF initiative on India to counter systemic bias?

I have occasionally seen you refer to this, but I don't know the details. What initiative was this, and when was it launched? Kingsindian ♝♚ 14:19, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

It was driven by Sue Gardner during her time at the head of the WMF. There is a report about it somewhere, commissioned after the event by the WMF. I'll try to find that but we're talking 3 or 4 years ago now. - Sitush (talk) 08:38, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Paswan

You recently reverted some of my edits on the article Paswan, stating so what? The line says They are considered to be an untouchable community, but citie does not specific about the Paswan caste, is there anyone? It is requested that please avoid summery field for discussion. — CutestPenguin 08:28, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

So either remove the bit about SC or source it properly. There was no need to remove the entire paragraph, especially since it is common knowledge that untouchable = dalit = SC/ST. That was my second revert of you in relation to that paragraph and your prior edit summary made me wonder whether you may not be familiar with WP:CENSORED. Misplaced Pages really doesn't bow to the opinions of the Government of India. - Sitush (talk) 08:31, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

(Not the opinions but the sources from Govt of India can be treated as the reliable. See WP:INDAFD) I am aware with WP:CENSORED but there are some incidents on Misplaced Pages which made me wonder that how the consideration can be different for the similar situations. — CutestPenguin 08:40, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Caste warring

Oh lord the Shakya caste-warring makes me tired just hearing about it. The Newar Shakya caste are authentic descendants of Gautama Buddha? I just can't even. I can't.

I hope your health is a little better; mine is suffering rn thanks to a heatwave that has left the region with strong heat warnings. Ogress _smash! 20:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Come on now, Ogress. We have the descendants of Rama, Krishna and Parasurama roaming around here. Why not Buddha? It is the Indian way! I suggest that you claim descent from Varuna. The heat wave might bypass you. - Kautilya3 (talk) 21:51, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Naw I'm going Iranian in the Indo-Iranian with Verethragna; I live in a desert and we could use the apas. Ogress _smash! 01:43, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Jazz Summers

"Passed away peacefully last night" Rusted AutoParts 13:04, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

So please cite it rather than misrepresent what the existing sources say. Assuming Digital Spy is reliable, of course. - Sitush (talk) 13:06, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Don't get snippy, man. Rusted AutoParts 13:08, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: you've been here a while and should know this. You should also probably know of WP:CITEVAR. I'll fix it. - Sitush (talk) 13:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I know. Doesn't mean you should cope an attitude. Rusted AutoParts 13:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

No attitude here. - Sitush (talk) 14:55, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

"actually, forget it - can't be bothered arguing with someone who is touchy". It's fine you might be having a bad day or something, just don't act shitty towards me because you didn't bother to take the source provided on Deaths in 2015. Rusted AutoParts 15:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Why the heck should I be looking at a list article for a source? The damn list wasn't even linked from the bio article, which is where you made the faux pas. I'm not a mind-reader and nor can we expect telepathy from those who choose to consult WP for information. You are being absolutely ridiculous. - Sitush (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Because the man is dead and obviously there will be a source on the deaths list. I'm not sure if you're just lazy, but you revert me, I give you the proof, and you go biting my head off. It's sourced now, just saying try not to be an asshole when someone's helping you build a new article. Rusted AutoParts 21:48, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

You need to walk away, re-familiarise yourself with our purpose, our policies and our guidelines (including WP:BURDEN) and you need never to darken this talk page again. You are at present a menace. - Sitush (talk) 23:51, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Well gosh, if it upsets you so, ill go. I don't think I need to read anything, as I doubt there's a guideline for picking up the lazy person's slack. Simply providing you the source offended you greatly. Can't say ill stop "darken"ing you talk page as I'm not some evil wizard. But I won't respond anymore. Quite frankly I don't like dealing with rude people. I'm not your mommy. Start wiping your own ass. I've said all I need to say. RAP (talk) 00:30 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: See WP:NOBAN. If a user requests you not to post on their talk page, you are expected to respect it. Given your hostile language above, I think you had it coming. - Kautilya3 (talk) 07:05, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Rusted AutoParts, a perusal of your talk page and recent disputes at articles such as Brad Pitt suggests that you regularly get into difficulties with experienced contributors regarding even fairly basic content issues. I'm not the one at fault here but if you think I have been rude, well, you ain't seen nothing yet. Come here again and you will. - Sitush (talk) 08:49, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

K. Rusted AutoParts 12:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit Warring at Yogendra Yadav

Seems like anonymous IPs are editing the page and same old text is back that you edited out/corrected. I am sure if I revert to your revision, it will be reverted from another IP. How do you resolve such situtions? As a comparatively new user, I am more interested in the process of resolving such conflicts. Please help. ChunnuBhai (talk) 18:24, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

It appears to be under control at the moment. If it continues then it is possible to request that the article be protected for a while from certain types of contribution. That is done at WP:RFPP and I'm sure someone will do so if it seems necessary. Of course, even anons are entitled to have their say but the article talk page is the place to do that when it involves removal of reliably sourced content. One thing that something like semi-protection can do is force the anons to discuss rather than edit war, although in my experience they tend not to bother and either go away or just wait things out until they can disrupt things yet again. - Sitush (talk) 18:37, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Dadu Konddeo

Hello Sitush, I would be grateful for your input on the renaming of the article Dadu Konddeo. An editor changed it from Dadoji saying we do not do honorifics. Now, I could not find a single reliable source that called him "Dadu Now there are very recent news articles in Marathi calling him Dadu after publication of a controversial book on Shivaji by James Laine. Most historians including Duff and Sarkar have called him Dadaji and I believe the Ji is an integral part of his name just like other Marathi names such as Shivaji, Shahaji, Mahadji Shinde, Kanhoji Angre etc. When you have time please check the talk page of the article for more information. Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 18:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Nothing I can do there, sorry. I don't know anything about the person and the order of priority when dealing with COMMONNAME vs HONORIFIC vs NCIN is beyond me. - Sitush (talk) 21:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Jonathansammy (talk) 12:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

So that we don't butt heads...

Like we've done so many times, I'm letting you know that I want to add a 'not to be confused with' tag on one of the pages that you've operated on. Issue is, that a particular community has a similar sounding name to another community from another region of South Asia. But other than the somewhat similar names, the two communities are completely unrelated (in linguistics, origin, culture, gotra, surnames, etc). So is there any specific procedure that I have to follow? ShamusHarper (talk) 00:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation is your friend. It might be easier to consider the specifics if you weren't talking in riddles ;) - Sitush (talk) 11:57, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I was referring to the Lohana and Labana communities. I've added a 'not to be confused with' tag for now, but there's this erroneous idea circulating that they're one and the same. What would you suggest? ShamusHarper (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Follow WP:RS and WP:COMMONNAME. - Sitush (talk) 19:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I cannot find any source that categorizes the Labana and Lohana as the same, or states that they are related in any way. At the same time, there is no source that directly states that both communities are not related. (There are snippets on Google Books that supposedly make mention of both communities but they're inaccessible to me.) Would it be possible to inject text into the article(s) stating that the two communities speak different languages, have different Gotras, etc..? ShamusHarper (talk) 22:19, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Injecting something might be drifting into the realms of WP:OR unless the sources mention both communities in the context that you describe. This type of thing is a messy area and it isn't helped by issues related to transliteration etc. I appreciate your concern regarding GBooks snippet views - in fact, I'm pleased to see someone who recognises that issue - but the limitations of our policies can create situations such as this. You perhaps already know this but User:Sitush/Common#GBooks is relevant, as is the general notion that sources do not have to be online anyway.

In situations where we seem effectively to be asked to prove a negative (that the two are not connected) I think that the onus has to be on someone to prove that there is in fact a connection, with reliable sources even if not online. However, it might be worth raising the alleged synonymity (or lack of it) at WT:INB. You could raise it at the article talk pages but that might lead to two disparate discussions. Perhaps start a thread at WT:INB and then post a neutral note at the article talk pages that links to it? - Sitush (talk) 23:10, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

{stalker comment} If you can find snippet sources on the net, then you may certainly be able to request those sources, or others, at WP:RX, which might get you fuller versions of the works in questions and maybe provide additional valuable information. John Carter (talk) 23:12, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Excellent point! As someone who has availed themselves of the kindness of folks at WP:RX on numerous occasions I really should have mentioned that. - Sitush (talk) 23:18, 25 August 2015 (UTC)