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Thanks.--Lagoset (talk) 16:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

an excess of Democracy Internationals

Hey, thanks for putting in the effort to build a new article about Democracy International. Your article did hit one major snag: there is actually more than one organization that goes by that name (you can see links to three of them at Talk:Democracy International. Your article conflated at least two of them, a US-based organization and a German-based one that produced the book on Direct Democracy that you linked to. You may want to review the article, figure out which group you actually want the article to be about, and rebuild it from there. (For now, I've stripped it down to the US one.) Let me know if you need any help! --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:15, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Or can be them both. ;-) I am going to review. . --Lagoset (talk) 06:35, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

OpenStructures listed at Redirects for discussion

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Improved the article from the computer (not from the downgraded phone), so now is not a redirection, but a full article. --Lagoset (talk) 15:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)--Lagoset (talk) 15:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Openstructures

Happy new year to yourself as well, but I'm afraid I haven't edited the article you mention - it looks like your thanks should go to SimonTrew for clearing up the article. --McGeddon (talk) 17:22, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

To you both. --Lagoset (talk) 19:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

OpenStructures

You're welcome. I'll try to find some more WP:RS for this. HNY to you too. Si Trew (talk) 20:19, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for your work on the "modular smartphone" article! It was a great base around which I could work. If you find any more info feel free to add it.

Photon_man62 (talk) 04:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I am very hopeful. I love this cat. Thank you a lot and happy new year!!.--Lagoset (talk) 11:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you a lot. --Lagoset (talk) 09:19, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem! --Dodi 8238 (talk) 18:51, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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I see it is in a Creative Commons license, which I thought is the same license than Misplaced Pages (see there). If I am wrong, delete the paragraphs and accept my sorry, was unintended, because thought it was allowed to use this source and text (also, it belongs to the same organization than Misplaced Pages, FSF).--Lagoset (talk) 19:35, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't notice the creative commons status. Okay, that's acceptable content. It needs to be rewritten because the tone is inappropriate (Misplaced Pages doesn't address its readers as "you"), but it's not a copyright violation. Apologies for the oversight, good to see you understand what the problem was. --McGeddon (talk) 19:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

And good to see you understand why I did it. Thanks. --Lagoset (talk) 19:48, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you a lot. --Lagoset (talk) 07:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Wellington city/region transport

Hi Lagoset: Wellington New Zealand has an extensive electric suburban rail network on four lines north, with electric power largely renewable from hydroelectricity, plus some geothermal and more recently wind power. Only the rail link to the Wairarapa (and freight trains) are diesel-powered. But public transport in the central city, south and some northern suburbs is by bus, mainly diesel. There are electric trolley buses to some suburbs (they replaced electric trams in 1964) and the Regional Council (which is responsible for public transport in the region) wants to replace them with diesel buses as the power feeder network is due for replacement. Then supposedly by battery-electric buses, although with the weight of batteries they would be rather a liability on some of the hill routes. PS: when I first went to secondary school it was on an open-top double-deck tram. Hugo999 (talk) 21:35, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Hugo999: In Spain there are slowly appearing trams. And for buses, hybrid electric (diesel-electric) and more reciently capabuses (this is, can recharge only at bus stops, with quick recharging, when riders and are getting off and on). The ideal is recharge with renewable electricity, as wind or solar. What a fortune you could ride in these double-deck trams!!. Think this would atract nowadays tourists.--Lagoset (talk) 06:51, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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Restricted external links

Hello Lagoset, please don't add external links, that primarily promote or try to sell specific products, like the recently added external links on Energy storage and Porsche 356. "Official" links are restricted as well and should be directly related to the article's topic. Please see WP:EL for the relevant guideline. Thank you. GermanJoe (talk) 09:42, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@GermanJoe: There is a lack of information in the article about the renewable energy storage boom, as included in the sources that appeared in the external links , Energy Storage Association], Matt Roberts. About the electric version, the right place is the article, where I have included it. Can be with sources or not.--Lagoset (talk) 09:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into that. Sources about that boom should primarily come from independent reliable sources (newspapers, scientific journals, books). Neutral information from "involved" sources (companies, advocacy groups) can be OK too, but must meet the policy at WP:PROMO (especially #5) - it's a case-by-case decision. Except from one "official" link, external links should generally not point to promotional pages. GermanJoe (talk) 10:46, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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Please do not use styles that are unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in Timer. There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. WP:SEEALSO is pretty clear that we should only have links to articles that actually exist (not redlinks). I undid a few of your edits that did that. DMacks (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

OK. Where can I ask for a staircase timer article, please. In any case, I have read somewhere that redlinks help Misplaced Pages can have more articles.--Lagoset (talk) 22:17, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Redlinks in article content (where the target topic is discussed) are sometimes okay to help lead to future articles as you mention, but not in loose lists (such as "See also" sections). Misplaced Pages:Red link is the central guideline. I think Misplaced Pages:Requested articles is where you can request articles. DMacks (talk) 22:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

@DMacks: Thanks!.--Lagoset (talk) 02:16, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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Really, think this article about cutting board must be expanded to a more general article about food board, that can be used for cutting or to kneading / baking. --Lagoset (talk) 08:15, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Baker's percent, two errors and one policy violation

In regards to this edit. There are several things I notice in regards to your article contribution, one is that placing another formula begins to cross the line into WP:NOTRECIPE, another is that you inserted a red link "instant yeast", and three you copied errata that doesn't apply to the formula you added. Do you plan to fix these issues? Gzuufy (talk) 17:21, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gzuufy. About the formula, really is not a recipe, but a formula and in the same page there is another one. Think there is not a problem offer different version of the same formula, or different formulas. About The red link, it is the way Misplaced Pages creates new content. Can you help with the errata?. Thanks in advance. ;-). --Lagoset (talk) 22:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

I made a couple edits, there was already an 'instant yeast' section existing in the baker's yeast article, which eliminates the red link. I think the reference also needs some work to match the format of the other references, at least including a title. Thanks for your contribution! I hope that other editors agree that these are formulas and not recipes. Gzuufy (talk) 18:21, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Gzuufy: Thank you a lot!!!. --Lagoset (talk) 06:00, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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Red links!

You're adding a lot of redlinks! While those may be useful to note articles that should be created, it is a good idea to check to see if they're covered within another article first. For example, you added red links to bulk fermentation in several baking related topics which I watch, one of them was the article Straight dough. It so happens that bulk fermentation is a part of the straight dough process and was covered in the process section!

It appears in other articles, as Proofing (baking technique) and Chorleywood bread process. It is important a definition of bulk fermentation. Why use bulk in this context, for example. A how-to or step by step, think is not enough.

A similar issue occurred on the Chorleywood bread process article, when you red linked low-protein wheat. The Wheat flour article is pretty comprehensive in regards to low-protein wheat flours.

How discover one is related with the other. Thanks to this, I can include a blue link there (first think it was related to protein wheat).

I also note you red linked "bakerpedia" in External links. Why do you believe that site is notable enough that a page should be created for them? Their Straight dough article is nowhere near as comprehensive as the Misplaced Pages article itself, it misses a whole lot of relevant information. No information in Straight dough was created from any information bakerpedia provided. So why should Misplaced Pages have a page devoted to them?

Think Misplaced Pages is good for starting point, but more specialized wikis must treat the bread and baking topics. Do you know other alternatives?.

One other thing I wanted to mention, was that the Straight dough article used Harvard references exclusively. It is considered good editing practice to keep using the same citation style in all articles where such a convention already exists. They are slightly more difficult to create, but are superior for the reader when the article contains references where multiple different pages are used from a single source. Thus a page range need not be used, allowing the reader to quickly find the cited author's use. Gzuufy (talk) 03:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the conversion. Think the reference can help to understand the bulk fermentation concept. In which sense bulk is used in this term?. Perhaps a link to a bulk article can help for the newcomer. Thank you a lot for all!!.--Lagoset (talk) 06:22, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you saying the explanation of bulk fermentation in the process section of Straight dough is not clear and understandable? If so, maybe another sentence should be added. In the case of "bulk fermentation", it is the period after mixing when dough is left alone to ferment in bulk, meaning before division to final weights. To me, the article already says that, and there are lots of references provided in the relevant paragraph if it is not clear: Navy (1961), p. 5-5, also p. 3-8, and Ramaswamy & Marcotte (2004), p. 194. I would also be surprised if Wihlfahrt did not cover it somewhere, though he wasn't specifically cited in that particular paragraph. I'm thinking that it may be impossible to provide instant understanding in any article. Gzuufy (talk) 14:14, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey folks - I created a redirect page at bulk fermentation, sending people to the Process portion of Straight dough. Now they won't be red links any more. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@NatGertler and Gzuufy: I have added the sense by Gzuufy to the redirect by NatGertler in bulk. . On the other hand, I suppose the right bulk sense from wiktionary is "being large in size, mass or volume (of goods, etc.)". Good job and thank you a lot!!!--Lagoset (talk) 07:54, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of electric bicycle brands and manufacturers

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Hi. The above message was automatically generated. I wanted to stop by and let you know that the reason I proposed the list for deletion was that a list of one item isn't really a list. Moreover, the only item on the list is a redlink. If there are more things to add to the list to make it a useful list, please do so and I won't push for deletion, but as it stands it's not a very useful list; or even really a list at all. ~ ONUnicornproblem solving 16:51, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

@ONUnicorn:. Improved, now 16 manufacturers, more could be added, but as red links. So, the banner can be removed.--Lagoset (talk) 20:34, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Yep, that's better. Thanks for the quick response. I've taken the deletion template off. I'd like to see the entries referenced, but there's no longer a reason to delete. ~ ONUnicornproblem solving 20:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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@General Ization:. It is referenciable that High-voltage direct currents are also called power super highways or electrical super highways (or network of networks), so can be created a National Electrical Superhighway.

For renewable electricity are called renewable electricity superhighways.. --Lagoset (talk) 08:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Referenciable (not a real word) is not good enough here on Misplaced Pages; such changes must be referenced, in the article, not here on your Talk page. In addition, the phrase "green electrical highway", which you introduced in the article as a synonym for high-voltage direct current, does not appear at any of these sources, so they cannot be used to support its introduction there. General Ization 11:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

References

So, going to put in the article page, to make it referenced. Thanks!!--Lagoset (talk) 12:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

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@Bazj: Wrong. Taken from US Gov Sources, so in the public domain (added in references). Delete this * tag. --Lagoset (talk) 11:37, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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Open-source computing hardware

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I saw the list you created today, but many items on the list that you added are not open-source hardware projects: OLPC, Purism Librem, ZaTab, Jolla Tablet, Tehnoetic TET-N150. These projects might run (100 %) open-source software, but still their hardware designs are closed-source. Just wanted you to take notice of this. :)

Kind regards, Gorlingor (talk) 23:56, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@Gorlingor: Thanks for the note. So the best idea is use them in another open hardware project, as Arduino or similar ?. --Lagoset (talk) 22:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Your edits to see also links on composting page

You've been adding various links under see also on the composting page. They are mostly not useful though, see also here in the Manual of Style for explanation. Only really important terms should be linked. Less important terms or various general terms should be rather linked in the text itself. There is no point creating a very long "see also" list. Please discuss this further on the talk page of the composting article if needed. EvM-Susana (talk) 13:57, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@EvM-Susana: Also was deleted an external link about how composting. And lacks a link to Wikibooks:Category:Composting.Theory without practice is useless.--Lagoset (talk) 14:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Let's discuss this further on the talk page of the article. I have no problem with trying to make it practical but as you can imagine there are thousands of pages and videos about composting out there and everyone wants to promote a particular one, so we have to be selective. Please, let's take this to the talk page of compost, thanks. EvM-Susana (talk) 15:59, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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