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The whole article is preemptive in its judgement, fails Notability, and distorts by its selective use of sources.It should be deleted.

Note I = ref name=Hadid>"Jewish Man Dies as Rocks Pelt His Car in West Bank". NY Times. 14 September 2015. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/15/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-violence.html?_r=0 A Jewish man died early Monday morning after attackers pelted the road he was driving on with rocks as he was returning home from a dinner celebrating Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, the Israeli authorities said .A statement from the Israeli police said the assailants were throwing stones on Sunday night on a road that runs between a Palestinian and Jewish neighborhood in East Jerusalem. The police said the stone-throwing “led to a self-inflicted accident,” as the man lost control of the car and smashed into a pole.Ynet, an Israeli news site, quoted a woman who said that she was a passenger in the car and that it crashed after being hit by a thrown object. The site did not identify the woman.


(2) Man returning from Rosh Hashanah dinner loses control of car; police investigate if crash was result of stones being thrown at car or if driver had heart attack. A man in Jerusalem was fatally wounded on Sunday night, the eve of Rosh Hashanah, when he lost control of his car after it was reportedly pelted with stones. The vehicle struck a power line and tumbled into a roadside ditch. Police said they were investigating if stones thrown at the car caused the accident. Jerusalem police said the passengers were returning from a Rosh Hashanah holiday dinner when they drove on a route on which Arabs were throwing stones. However, questioning of the other passengers suggested that the driver had convulsed before losing control of the car, and police decided to continue investigating the cause of the accident. ('Driver dies in accident possibly caused by stone-throwing,' Ynet 14 September 2015)

An incident sub iudice or under a gag order, whose nature is not yet determined, cannot be, whatever the assertion of one of many assertions, be called 'a murder'. E M Gregory has an obsession with this topic, but this is getting farcical. Nishidani (talk) 15:39, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Name should probably be changed but I see a few articles just like that. In Israel at least, it has gotten a lot of coverage. Settleman (talk) 15:47, 19 September 2015 (UTC)