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List of deaths and injuries caused by Israeli forces firing at alleged Palestinian stone-throwers

List of deaths and injuries caused by Israeli forces firing at alleged Palestinian stone-throwers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of deaths and critical injuries caused by Palestinian stone-throwing. Neither of these lists are encyclopedic, they're both created to make a point. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:39, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

• Strong delete - 'alleged' in the title pretty much sums up that this is a political statement. VMS Mosaic (talk) 06:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I suggest you actually read the article. It is beyond a shadow of a doubt that stone throwing is widespread and a daily practice in the Palestinian territories. It is also well documented by B'tselem and other respectable NGOs who are non-partisan, that many of the people shot or shot dead, and reported in army bulletins as having been shot for stone throwing, either weren't throwing stones at the time or doubt hangs over the cases, which almost never end in a legal verdict. For this reason alleged is obligatory, because the official reports are unreliable. It can be changed, if an intelligent alternative is thought up.Nishidani (talk) 08:13, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Delete Per WP:COATRACK a hotchpotch of incidents during a variety of riots and hooliganism. Nothing defines these sundry episodes of rampage, mayhem and vandalism as a category. Also problematic is poor sourcing, with many of the alleged incidents sourced to a single blog or partisan NGO, frequently lacking details like names making incidents impossible to verify.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Your vote was predictable, just as it was predicable that you would vote to keep the other parallel article that is not the least bit better than this one. But I'm disappointed you couldn't actually think of any good reasons. Zero 11:54, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I have recently been forced to spend an undue amount of time coping with E.M. Gregory's personal obsessions with stone-throwing, in the wake of User:Shulmaven's Palestinian stone-throwing, where he is active. He's now created Criminal rock throwing to use it in his polemic against 'Arabs' and I had to remind him that hooliganism on national roads is one thing, stone throwing by an occupied people another Rock throwing has been in the past often adopted as a method by an unarmed population to protest a governing power's authority. He's also created 2015 Rosh HaShanah death by stone-throwing (17 September) when, as the AfD shows, the sources say it is not known whether rocks or a heart attack caused the death. Still not satisfied, three days later he came up with List of deaths and critical injuries caused by Palestinian stone-throwing. Well, what do you do with this stacking of multiple victim articles? I responded by creating this article 'List of deaths and injuries caused by Israeli forces firing at alleged Palestinian stone-throwers' as the sister article. The only word that covers the behavior of an editor that writes a POV-pushing anti-Arab article, and then asks that its mirror article (per NPOV) be deleted, is chutzpah, to not speak of in-your-face double-standards. B'tselemis not a partisan NGO - it is the most objective verifier of hostile incidents in Israel and mainly run by Israelis , nor is Amnesty International and all events listed will be sourced to that or mainstream newspapers.Nishidani (talk) 12:08, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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