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Cardinal Sarah

Hi GeneralizationsAreBad,

This Misplaced Pages entry misrepresents Cardinal Sarah's position: "He is also a critic of... growth of LGBT rights" The term "growth of LGBT rights" is not used by Cardinal Sarah, but is projected by the editor. This misrepresentation betrays a bias that violates Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy and amounts to slander.

I corrected the misrepresentation by replacing it with the Cardinal's direct quote in question, and provided a source.

Thanks, CR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cr7777777 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much for getting back to me. I appreciate it. I agree that the talk page is the best place to deal with this issue. Hopefully, we can work out a solution rather than continuing to edit-war. GAB 15:48, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

No problem. In the meantime we should keep the cardinal's direct quote until this is sorted out. Ezium23 and Mean as custard had used the direct quote as well before Contaldo80 modified it with his own wording. Cr7777777 (talk) 16:49, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Attack pages

Hi. When you get an attack page like the one just now, {{db-attack}} is a better tag than {{db-vandalism}}. It automatically blanks the page, puts it in a high-priority queue for admin attention, and generates a suitably fierce message for the author. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:35, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

@JohnCD: Thanks. I typically do, but I guess I just didn't for some reason this time. GAB 20:09, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

No worries! I pointed it out because some people aren't aware of it. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 22:37, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm De la Marck. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Morange, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Le Sanglier des Ardennes (talk) 01:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Portal current event

Can you please restore , can't here or will violate WP:3RR Victor Punta (talk) 21:01, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Tom Pett

what are you doing? - I just restored sourced information that had been removed without explanation 94.0.75.192 (talk) 21:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@94.0.75.192: It violated NPOV -- calling someone "an infinitely more talented and successful footballer." The source also said nothing about it. GAB 21:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

The source is all about him being together with Little, you moron. 94.0.75.192 (talk) 21:42, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

You shouldn't generalize!

Not all generalizations are bad, you know! 2A02:1810:519:9E00:7DB6:B2B8:B66A:6120 (talk) 12:13, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@2A02:1810:519:9E00:7DB6:B2B8:B66A:6120: Very true! If you don't mind me asking, on which article might I have run into you in the past? GAB 22:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

We've had no prior interactions (that I recall). But I took notice of your handle yesterday when you reverted another instance of vandalism in the "Normans" article. This article seems to be increasingly a target for vandals. I think this is because right-wing leaning elements are troubled by the notion that an ethnically and culturally diverse group played such a large part in Europe's history, and indeed founded one of the most multi-cultural societies of their time with the Kingdom of Sicily. It shatters many an illusion and fantasy which socially conservative types seem to harbor about European nativism and/or ethnic "purity". Hence the child-like anger that we see expressed in these vandalism edits. 2A02:1810:519:9E00:846F:375F:C229:DD8A (talk) 00:14, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

edit in "Russians in the Baltic states"

Thank you for removing the generalizing description of Soviet-time immigration as "Russian". I see that you've also returned "colonized" for description of the Soviet rule in the Baltic states. Earlier, I'd requested sourcing for another use of "colonization" in the same article.

As I found after some research, the use of this term for this region and time even in the Western science is controversial, to say the least. The controversy is even admitted by proponents of using this term (an Ohio professor - "The idea that the Baltic States might be considered former colonies of the Soviet Union is clearly a vexing one—untenable in some quarters, irrecusable in others, but mostly ignored or deemed irrelevant"; an article in the Journal of Baltic Studies - the topic of Soviet colonialism has not (or not yet) become a dominant way to understand Soviet history. And I'm not even going into what academics from Russia might say about this approach.

See also "Continuity and Change in the Baltic Sea Region: Comparing Foreign Policies" (a 2008 book by authoritative Rodopi (publisher); p. 17) - "it is perhaps unfair to use a colonial status for the position of the Baltic republics in the Soviet Union. Colonialism involves a clear subordination between the ruling and the ruled, such as the extraction of resources. While one can see certain aspects of this in the case of the Baltic republics and the Soviet center, the term 'colonialism' is also misleading. The Baltic Republics were involved in the governance not only of their region, but also at the national (Soviet) level as well. It would be hard to make a case that Moscow purportedly extracted resources from the Baltic region without giving anything back")

So I suggest finding a better word for both times the root "colon-" appears in the article. In the first case, I suggest "Immediately after the war, major migration from other USSR republics, including much migration of ethnic Russians, took place in the Baltic region". In the second - if "affected" were not suitable (although I find it to be much better than "colonized"), one could use "impacted by immigration", "influenced by immigration", "had smallest immigration influx".--Fuseau (talk) 22:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Don't mess!

Don't mess! Stay out! Or else!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.101.188.129 (talk) 08:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)