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Welcome!

Hello, Johnny Au, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! Just H 19:20, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #4—2015

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You can add quotations marks before and after a title or phrase with a single click.

Select the relevant text. Find the correct quotations marks in the special character inserter tool (marked as Ω in the toolbar).

Click the button. VisualEditor will add the quotation marks on either side of the text you selected.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team have been working on mobile phone support. They have fixed many bugs and improved language support. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving language support and functionality on mobile devices.

Wikimania

The team attended Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City. There they participated in the Hackathon and met with individuals and groups of users. They also made several presentations about VisualEditor and the future of editing.

Following Wikimania, we announced winners for the VisualEditor 2015 Translathon. Our thanks and congratulations to users Halan-tul, Renessaince, जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta), Vahe Gharakhanyan, Warrakkk, and Eduardogobi.

For interface messages (translated at translatewiki.net), we saw the initiative affecting 42 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 56.5% before the translathon, and 78.2% after (+21.7%). In particular, Sakha improved from 12.2% to 94.2%; Brazilian Portuguese went from 50.6% to 100%; Taraškievica went from 44.9% to 85.3%; Doteli went from 1.3% to 41.2%. Also, while 1.7% of the messages were outdated across all languages before the translathon, the percentage dropped to 0.8% afterwards (-0.9%).

For documentation messages (on mediawiki.org), we saw the initiative affecting 24 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 26.6% before translathon, and 46.9% after (+20.3%).  There were particularly notable achievements for three languages. Armenian improved from 1% to 99%; Swedish, from 21% to 99%, and Brazilian Portuguese, from 34% to 83%. Outdated translations across all languages were reduced from 8.4% before translathon to 4.8% afterwards (-3.6%).

We published some graphs showing the effect of the event on the Translathon page. Thank you to the translators for participating and the translatewiki.net staff for facilitating this initiative.

Recent improvements

Auto-fill features for citations can be enabled on each Misplaced Pages. The tool uses the citoid service to convert a URL or DOI into a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org.

Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top.

In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software.

Future changes

The team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not.

On the English Misplaced Pages, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. You can learn more about this by watching a video of the July 2015 Wikimedia Research Showcase. The proportion of new accounts with access to both editing environments will be gradually increased over time. Eventually all new users have the choice between the two editing environments.

Let's work together

• Share your ideas and ask questions at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback.
• Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help.
• If your wiki would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace, you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
• Please file requests for language-appropriate "Bold" and "Italic" icons for the styling menu in Phabricator.
• The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
• The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, usually on Tuesdays at 12:00 (noon) PDT (19:00 UTC). Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q1 blocker, though. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the main VisualEditor project with the bug.

If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact Elitre directly, so that she can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

September 2015

Hello! I noticed that with this edit, you changed another user's name in their signature, by replacing the word "****" with asterisks. This caused the links to their user and talk pages to break. Furthermore, your edit summary did not indicate the fact that you did this. In the future, please do not edit other users' signatures unless they are blatantly disruptive. If you think User:**** in a Bucket's username is offensive, you should report them to WP:UAA. Thank you. Belchior90 (talk) 19:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't waste your time, it's the name of a song and has been discussed or trolled depending on the person complaining but in the end it was acceptable, in the meantime enjoy the day. **** in a Bucket (talk) 22:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I must apologize. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Like a virgin

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHW5RVvg2v4

Hello Johnny, this song is really in E♭ minor, but it's written F major in the page Like a Virgin (song). Fête Phung (talk) 01:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

It is done to prevent YouTube from terminating the account of the uploader, as Google has an algorithm that detects copyright violations. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 04:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The real version is also in E♭ minor. Fête Phung (talk) 10:59, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah. Perhaps two versions were made. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

On this video, you heard an F♯ major or E♭ minor? Fête Phung (talk) 17:26, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Hard to tell. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

It sounds more like E♭ minor? Fête Phung (talk) 14:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Very slightly. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:02, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

key

• File:王菲 野三坡.ogg

Hi Johnny, do you hear the key here? Fête Phung (talk) 01:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

It is close to F♯ major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Toronto Star Interview

Hey, I'm a reporter with the Toronto Star. I'm interested in writing about the Jays Misplaced Pages page and the extra attention it must be receiving from editors in the last few weeks/months. Not sure if this is the best way to contact you, but if you would be OK with chatting, can you drop me a line? Email at osachgau@thestar.ca or phone at 416-869-4398 works.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Staroliversachgau (talk • contribs)

@Staroliversachgau: I have e-mailed you. I am interested in being interviewed at One Yonge Street. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:59, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor update

This note is only delivered to English Misplaced Pages subscribers of the visual editor's newsletter.

The location of the visual editor's preference has been changed from the "Beta" tab to the "Editing" section of your preferences on this wiki. The setting now says Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta. This aligns en.wiki with almost all the other WMF wikis; it doesn’t mean the visual editor is complete, or that it is no longer “in beta phase” though.

This action has not changed anything else for editors: it still honours editors’ previous choices about having it on or off; logged-out users continue to only have access to wikitext; the “Edit” tab is still after the “Edit source” one. You can learn more at the visual editor’s talk page.

We don’t expect this to cause any glitches, but in case your account no longer has the settings that you want, please accept our apologies and correct it in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences. Thank you for your attention, Elitre (WMF) -16:32, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Toronto Star article

That's a great article in the Star. You are a hero, and it's good to see you are getting some well deserved recognition. - SimonP (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

No problem. I am becoming a minor celebrity at my workplace as well. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 20:55, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations on your new-found fame, and thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Just read the article featuring you and Blue Jays/Toronto-related articles, congrats and keep up the good work! ///EuroCarGT 20:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you all for your support. Go Jays go! Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

2015 Toronto Blue Jays season

Hey Johnny, I appreciate your edits to the page, but could you try to spell out more than one numeral per edit? I understand why you're doing it, but doing them one at a time just inflates the page history. By the way, I saw your article in the Star - very cool. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 02:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for congratulating me. I should try to make more changes per edit then, rather than to inflate my edit count, despite them being constructive yet incremental. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:56, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I've been known to have bouts with WP:EDITCOUNTITIS myself on occasion. No worries - go Jays go! Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 03:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Au

Hi Johnny, is there some Anglophone pronounce your last name as ? Fête Phung (talk) 22:36, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I believe so. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Canadian English

Hi Johnny, I have been contributing to Misplaced Pages for over five years but am still having some difficulty with HTML coding. And I know some experts who would be a great benefit to Misplaced Pages, such as my neighbor, a professor of Natural History and Environmental Biology, but he finds the HTML aspect confusing, so he has given up trying to contribute.

Also, you sent me a note about using British spelling such as favour and US spelling (favor) in Canadian items on Misplaced Pages. Most newspapers use US spelling here, while some publications use British spelling. So there is no clear rule on which to use. (In a recent edit to the page Flexity Outlook (Toronto streetcar), you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Misplaced Pages has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Misplaced Pages articles.) Does your comment mean that either spelling is fully acceptable in Canada? Peter K Burian 13:45, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Peter K Burian: Good question. See Template:canspell. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:07, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #5—2015

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Click the pencil icon to open the editor for a page. Inside that, use the gear menu in the upper right corner to "Switch to visual editing".

The editing button will remember which editing environment you used last time, and give you the same one next time. The desktop site will be switching to a system similar to this one in the coming months.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements

Educational features: The first time you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the Link and ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽ tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned.

Links:  It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108, T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558)  These "magic links" use a custom link editing tool.

Uploads:  Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the "Insert Images and media" tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later.

Mobile:  Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Misplaced Pages site only on tablets. Now, editors can use the visual editor on any size of device. (T85630)  Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "Delete" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.

Rich editing tools:  You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925)  There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227 and T113354)  When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.

On the English Misplaced Pages, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.

Future changes

You will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time.

Let's work together

• Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. This feedback page uses Flow for discussions.
• Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Misplaced Pages (Korean - Japanese).
• Local admins can set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki. If you need help, then please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
• The weekly task triage meetings are open to volunteers. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration, though. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the main VisualEditor project with the bug.

If you can't read this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!

— Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Streetcar loops

Which parts of Toronto streetcar loops are outdated? I could work on improving the article, if I knew what the problems were. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: I have updated the part about the Queens Quay loo. There may be a few others that may be outdated. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:50, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

But the banner you added after that says "This article is outdated". You sort of fixed the one at Spadina and Queens Quay. What are the other problems? Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Some of the rest, especially the "Former loops" section, with some of the loops being stated as "Currently under renewal for new streetcar/bus loop in 2014." Not just that, but the (old) Exhibition Loop is replaced by the Direct Energy Centre (which has since been renamed Enercare Centre). Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 19:53, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

New

It's pronounced in British English, but in American English and in Canadian English, I prefer to speak with an Canadian accent, because I live in Canada. Fête Phung (talk) 04:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Canadians used to pronounce "new" as and I pronounce it as that way. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 14:52, 18 November 2015 (UTC)