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John Mcintyre1959

Ki, please check my recent editing record. I stick to RS, and I stick to the what is in the sources. I remove OR, and therefore request that you support me coming in from the cold, and being allowed to remain on wikipedia. I argue that I deserve a second chance, and that my record is not that of a sock puppet who is only here to disrupt. I am here to stick to[REDACTED] principles, and I do take on board constructive criticism. I am only robust with those who will not stick to the three tenets of wikipedia.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 06:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

@Johnmcintyre1959: That may or may not be true, I have no idea. Sockpuppetry is against Misplaced Pages policy. I have just given my suspicions, it is up to WP:SPI to determine whether they are correct. Kingsindian  06:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hi

Hi Kingsindian, same things happen again on Eli Yishai, Omri Sharon. It not get sorted. 81.132.160.171 (talk) 23:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

@81.132.160.171: I have added a request for page protection again. Hopefully it will get sorted out soon. Kingsindian  07:41, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

1 rr

Your recent edit on Rachel Corrie violates the 1RR restriction on that article. Please self-revert it. When Other Legends Are Forgotten (talk) 00:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how it violates WP:1RR, but I'll self-revert anyway. Kingsindian  01:23, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

RfC

Hi, Kingsindian. If you're happy with the RfC on Talk:Eliot Higgins#RfC:_How_should_Richard_Llloyd_be_described_in_the_article.3F, would you like to draw a conclusion? I believe the RfC has run its course. Thanks. Ph1ll1phenry (talk) 09:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

@Ph1ll1phenry: You can list it at WP:ANRFC where an uninvolved editor will close it. Kingsindian  09:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Done. Thank you. Ph1ll1phenry (talk) 10:16, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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Comments on Signpost article

Thanks for starting the discussion at Gamaliel's talk. However, you've posted eleven times and I was hoping you might leave it for now because I would like to engage with Gamaliel's reply to my comment and that's not possible under the current conditions. Johnuniq (talk) 05:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@Johnuniq: You are absolutely correct. I posted too many times, and I could see that Gamaliel became annoyed with me. Therefore, I suggested the pseudo-WP:3O thing. After that, I have no intention of replying more on this issue. Kingsindian  05:55, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I've got caught up and there will be a considerable delay before I get a chance to post my response. I lost my available time trying to read the amazing editorial comments. Johnuniq (talk) 09:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Just in case you missed it, which is unlikely, another trenchant piece from Nathan Thrall

Nathan Thrall, ‘Along the Divide,’ London Review of Books Vol. 37 No. 21 · 5 November 2015 pp.21-24 Nishidani (talk) 20:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nishidani: Thanks, I did miss it, I haven't been focused on I/P for the last few days. I especially liked the long quote from Jabotinsky, prescient and to the point. Kingsindian  02:49, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I was fortunate enough early on to come across the piece, and then the whole text, on reading Lenni Brenner's works. Once you grasp the hard realism of Jabotinsky's analysis, influenced as it was by both Marxism and the 1900-1910 syndicalist theorists like Sorel, Pannuzio and Michels, the rest of the story is just a footnote to the obvious. He has somewhere a marvelous phrase about Jewish revolutionaries in Russia being 'splinters on the waves of another nation’s vortexes,' which turns out to be the perfect description of the Palestinian leadership. I admire Jabotinsky actually: he was honest from the outset, unlike almost everyone else since. And he did, apparently, a great piece of translation with Dante's Inferno into Hebrew, I hear. And by all means take a break fro m IP, even wiki. It tends, like all web electronic media, to reduce one's serious traditional reading time, and also certain indispensable cognitive capacities like focused attention spanning more than several minutes, and the ability to precisely construe the meaning of sentences, as opposed to glancing over things for an 'impression'. Nishidani (talk) 11:46, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Gaza Strip

Thanks for reverting that edit - I thought I saw POV pushing and moved to counter it, forgetting of course what the actual topic was. Cheers,  Philg88  15:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

@Philg88: No worries, I commit the same mistake myself sometimes. Kingsindian  16:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Holodomor Denial

Hi Kingsindian, first thanks for the help you are giving me on many topics (despite the fact that I made my first edits around 2 years ago I did not really explore most of WP policies until these last weeks). About the Holodomor denial issue, do you think it can be useful to file a WP:RFC?

P.S. My very best wishes behaviour on his talk page is normal? In reality he is always logged in WP. -- Flushout1999 (talk) 18:28, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@Flushout1999: I am waiting for Iryna Harpy to comment when they have the time. If it takes too long a time, possible avenues are WP:BLPN and WP:RfC. You can of course do whatever you want independently of me. Kingsindian  03:56, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
At the moment, I'm just trying to clean up the refs and cite check them, plus salvage dead links, etc. Apologies for not responding in more detail, but I've re-tweaked my back (meaning that I'm on painkillers and I'm not in a position to respond to complex questions as succinctly as I'd wish to). As Misplaced Pages waits for no man (or woman, in this case), certainly no editors should be prohibited from seeking out other appropriate means of addressing content disputes.
As it stands, however, the more refs I check, the more convinced I am that there are no BLPVIO issues surrounding the characterisation of living people: these are attributed and not attacks on the people involved but on their 'expert' opinions as pertaining to the content. On the contrary, over the last couple of weeks I've seen what I would construe as opportunistic attacks on people relatively recently deceased in order to discredit their scholarly positions because they no longer factor under BLP constraints. If anyone in a position to influence public opinion uses their influence in public forums and is criticised for their position by others involved in that sphere of scholarship... well, it's not mischaracterisation, that's a fact attached to their public profile. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:33, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
@Iryna Harpy: We can of course discuss on the page about the details. My problem is not with describing the political arguments, attributed properlyc. My problem is describing them as "Holodomor denial", which is a much more serious charge. Unless there is a source which explicitly says this, in my opinion, it should not be described as such. Kingsindian  04:51, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Cheers. I've seen the RfC and will comment there. Apologies for the delays but, you may or may not have noticed, I've been wedged in ANI threads and truly strange spates of content refactoring on other articles. The Coplon issue is fairly peripheral so, even if I don't get around to the RfC, I'm good with accepting the outcome either way. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:09, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Kingsindian, I have seen the discussion ongoing. I have been absent someday and I don't know how much I'll be present in the next days. -- Flushout1999 (talk) 11:56, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Issue is starting one more time to become annoying on the discussion ongoing . If you have time please check it, thanks. -- Flushout1999 (talk) 15:10, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

@Flushout1999: i will monitor this but cant comment for a few days since i am traveling and writing on wp on a phone makes me want to tear my hair out. Kingsindian  15:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Battleground

Your WP:CTDAPE and WP:WIKIHOUNDING makes editing into a WP:BATTLEGROUND. I would have thought that after the thorough discussion you insisted on at Enforcement you would have moved on. Instead you are harassing me again here: and here: . I wish that you would find a more constructive use of your time, but I do want you to know that I might have gotten bored with Misplaced Pages by now and tapered off, but your POV pushing, your incessant hounding, and a WP:CTDAPE campaign to push me off Misplaced Pages that you may have unknowingly inspired on the part of a cabal of disruptive IP accounts has for several weeks now felt so unfair, that I have decided to dig my heels in, figure out the arcane rules of this place, and try to defend the integrity of this encyclopedia from editors with your intense animus. I am posting this here in the hope that it will inspire other victims of your WP:BATTLEGROUND and WP:WIKIHOUNDING to stick around and try to improve the project. Despite you.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:05, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@E.M.Gregory: I have said many times that I have no wish to push you off the project. As you can see, Pluto has supported the claim about Islamo-leftism being a neologism prevalent in France - as I expected they would. I pinged them to actually make a better case against the IP who was arguing with you. You may believe me or not, I don't care.
As to the rest, The reason that I AfDed the Beersheva bus station shooting (and will perhaps do the same on Lions' Gate stabbings) is because WP:AE stated that AfD is the channel through which I should operate on these and similar articles. I happen to think that creating a bunch of articles on one side of the conflict when there already exists a main article is an WP:NPOV violation, as I stated already. You are free to disagree. If you continue to create such articles, continue to expect them to land at AfD. I have of course no intention of AfDing other articles, just like I have not touched the hundred or so other articles that you have created. Kingsindian  03:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Please express your opinion on a different name for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (2015)

I have offered a new name: "2015 Palestinian unrest"
Explaination to this, regarding concerns brought up by other users is the the offer's section. Please express your opinion on this name.
There is no use answering me here, it's better to answer me here: talk:Israeli-Palestinian conflict (2015)#M. 2015 Palestinian unrest --Bolter21 (talk to me) 18:39, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Just saying

I totally agree with you here. I think that starting and continuing long discussions on talk pages, RfC and AfD on petty subjects does not really help to improve anything. Who cares?. My very best wishes (talk) 14:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Hmm... I found this diff on your user page. One does not behave "like a saint" by reporting other users for 3RR violations they did not do or for creating new legitimate pages. But that's OK. I stop editing any pages that became a matter of contention because I do not care. This is losing chess game. My very best wishes (talk) 13:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@My very best wishes: The board deals with edit warring short of 3RR as well. Call me cynical but you only stopped when I used the board, while ignoring my repeated pleas beforehand. As to the diff, you have misread the sentence as you have misread Coplon and Young. You are free to continue or disengage on the page. Kingsindian  03:44, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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Marples article pdf

Hi, I can send you a full text pdf of:

  • Marples, David R. (2009). "Ethnic Issues in the Famine of 1932–1933 in Ukraine". Europe-Asia Studies. 61 (3). Routledge: 505–518. doi:10.1080/09668130902753325.

to fulfill your request at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request#T & F Journal article on Ukrainian famine in the journal Europe-Asia studie. Please use Special:EmailUser to email me so that I can reply with the pdf as an attachment. Regards, Worldbruce (talk) 03:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Worldbruce: Thanks, email sent. Kingsindian  04:25, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, some help/advice?

Hello, hope you do not mindme approaching you..I have noted your commemts on the talk pageof anas al-tikriti. Another user raised some concerns on the NPOV noticeboard heading Islamic Charities, regarding several articles with pronounced POV pushing. I had a quick look at one article Islamic Help and saw what I considered to be OR,synthesis, coatracking, misrepresentation of sources, and maybe some unsuitable source meir amit terrorrism info centre? Have done a litle cleaning, but would appreciate a second look from an experienced eye (you) also at the other articles please. the post on NPOV had no responders. thanks 78.145.23.228 (talk) 11:13, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

@78.145.23.228: I saw the post on the NPOV noticeboard. I will take a look when I have the time, which might be a few days. Kingsindian  09:58, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

... or farce

Thank you for the insight with this in the edit summary. I wrote "best remembered as a farce" about the so-called infobox-wars, and just archived it. I wrote that about a year ago, but some are still (almost tragically) serious about it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for your comments. This is not really relevant, but I rather dislike infoboxes in the area I work in often (WP:ARBPIA). They are magnets for POV pushers and vandals. I would guess that their use in music might not be that problematic, but I don't really know much about it. Kingsindian  22:31, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
(pings don't work without a - new - signature, + Gerda is fine) - I didn't want to mention infoboxes (it's just what I know best), - I wanted to point how "farce" rang a bell. Same serious page: we might think more of what's good for the reader than our likes and dislikes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Naomi Wolf - Talk

I wasn't aware that the Talk page pops up on the watchlist. I'll try to refrain from tweaking it. I am one of those people who thinks precision of language (and facts) is important. I'll try to cure myself of this wiki-disease on Talk. For the articles, of course, precision is a virtue. Thanks. American In Brazil (talk) 12:00, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

@American In Brazil: Technically speaking, the talk page appears separately from the article pages on the watchlist. You can control what you see by selecting from the drop down box called "namespace". You are of course correct that precision of language is important. I just find that on talk pages, it is not that important. Anyway, this is just a minor annoyance, nothing too serious. Kingsindian  12:27, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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