This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Seraphimblade (talk | contribs) at 03:23, 23 December 2015 (→Proposed remedies: votes). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Case clerk: TBD Drafting arbitrator: TBD

Misplaced Pages Arbitration
About arbitrationTalk Arbitration policy (CU/OS) Guide to arbitration Noticeboard + Talk Search archived proceedings Ban appealsReport
Open proceedings All open requests Case requests Clarification and Amendment requests Arbitrator motion requests Enforcement requests
Active sanctions Contentious topics (Log) General sanctions Editor sanctions
Arbitration Committee Discuss+ Contact Members Procedures ElectionsTalk History Clerks+ Talk Clerk procedures Conflict of interest reports
Audit Talk StatisticsTalk Reports (pre-2016)
Track related changes
v t e

After considering /Evidence and discussing proposals with other arbitrators, parties, and editors at /Workshop, arbitrators may make proposals which are ready for voting. Arbitrators will vote for or against each provision, or they may abstain. Only items which are supported by an absolute majority of the active, non-recused arbitrators will pass into the final decision. Conditional votes and abstentions will be denoted as such by the arbitrator, before or after their time-stamped signature. For example, an arbitrator can state that their support vote for one provision only applies if another provision fails to pass (these are denoted as "first" and "second choice" votes). Only arbitrators and clerks may edit this page, but non-arbitrators may comment on the talk page.

For this case there are active arbitrators. Expression error: Missing operand for +. support or oppose votes are a majority.

If observing editors notice any discrepancies between the arbitrators' tallies and the final decision or the #Implementation notes, you should post to the clerk talk page. Similarly, arbitrators may request clerk assistance via the same method, or via the clerks' mailing list.

Under no circumstances may this page be edited by anyone other than members of the Arbitration Committee or the clerks. Please submit comments on the proposed decision in your own section on the talk page.

Proposed motions

Arbitrators may place proposed motions affecting the case in this section for voting. Typical motions might be to close or dismiss a case without a full decision (a reason should normally be given). Suggestions by the parties or other non-arbitrators for motions or other requests should be placed on the /Workshop page for consideration and discussion.

Motions require an absolute majority of all active, unrecused arbitrators (same as the final decision). See Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Motions to dismiss.

Template

1) {text of proposed motion}

Support:

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Proposed temporary injunctions

A temporary injunction is a directive from the Arbitration Committee that parties to the case, or other editors notified of the injunction, do or refrain from doing something while the case is pending. It can also be used to impose temporary sanctions (such as discretionary sanctions) or restrictions on an article or topic. Suggestions by the parties or other non-arbitrators for motions or other requests should be placed on the /Workshop page for consideration and discussion.

Four net "support" votes needed to pass (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed, unless there are at least four votes to implement immediately. See Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Passing of temporary injunctions.

Template

1) {text of proposed orders}

Support:

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Proposed final decision

Proposed principles

Purpose of Misplaced Pages

1) The purpose of Misplaced Pages is to create a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia in an atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect among contributors. Use of the site for other purposes, such as advocacy or propaganda or furtherance of outside conflicts is prohibited. Contributors whose actions are detrimental to that goal may be asked to refrain from them, even when these actions are are undertaken in good faith.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 16:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Courcelles (talk) 01:00, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 01:31, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
9. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Standards of editor behavior

2) Misplaced Pages users are expected to behave reasonably, calmly, and courteously in their interactions with other users. Unseemly conduct, such as personal attacks, incivility, harassment, disruptive point-making, and gaming the system, is prohibited. Additionally, editors should presume that other editors, including those who disagree with them, are acting in good faith toward the betterment of the project, at least until strong evidence emerges to the contrary. Even when an editor becomes convinced that another editor is not acting in good faith, and has a reasonable basis for that belief, the editor should attempt to remedy the problem without resorting to inappropriate conduct of his or her own.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Courcelles (talk) 01:00, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
9. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Criticism and casting aspersions

3) An editor must not accuse another of inappropriate conduct without evidence, especially when the accusations are repeated or severe. Comments should not be personalized, but should instead be directed at content and specific actions. Disparaging an editor or casting aspersions can be considered a personal attack. If accusations are made, they should be raised, with evidence, on the user-talk page of the editor they concern or in the appropriate dispute resolution forums.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Another version of the standard "serious accusations require serious evidence" principle. Courcelles (talk) 01:01, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
9. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Interaction bans

4) Interaction bans are intended to stop conflicts between two or more editors that cannot be otherwise resolved from getting out of hand and disrupting the work of others. Although the editors are generally allowed to edit the same pages or discussions as long as they avoid each other, they are not allowed to interact with each other in any way (aside from the standard exceptions). This includes making reference to the other editor (directly or indirectly), and undoing edits by the other user (whether by use of the revert function or by other means).

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. LFaraone 18:16, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
5. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
6. This works now. Courcelles (talk) 03:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
9. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

1. I'm going to land here given that "in any way" does not line up with the standard exceptions to bans. Courcelles (talk) 01:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Abstain:

Comments:

@GorillaWarfare: would you accept an amendment that mentions WP:BANEX to resolve Courcelles's concerns (which I agree are legitimate)? LFaraone 18:12, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Amended. Very reasonable point. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:13, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

@Courcelles: Do you still have an issue with the wording of this? GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:07, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Edit warring

5) Edit warring is disruptive and tends to inflame content disputes rather than resolve them. Users who engage in multiple reverts of the same content but are careful not to breach the three revert rule are still edit warring.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. This could be stronger than "not desirable" Courcelles (talk) 01:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. I've upped not desirable to disruptive as I doubt anyone would oppose such a change. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:33, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
7. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Euryalus (talk) 07:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
9. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Canvassing

6) While it is acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, messages that are written to influence the outcome rather than to improve the quality of a discussion may be considered disruptive.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. It can also be problematic to selectively notify parties "friendly" to the notifiers position. Courcelles (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
9. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Hounding

7) "Hounding" is the singling out of one or more editors, and joining discussions on pages or topics they may edit or debates where they contribute, in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work, with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor.

An editor's contribution history is public, and there are various legitimate reasons for following an editor's contributions, such as for the purposes of recent changes patrol, WikiProject tagging, or for dispute resolution purposes. Under certain circumstances, these activities can easily be confused with hounding.

Editors should at all times remember to assume good faith before concluding that hounding is taking place, although editors following another editor's contributions should endeavor to be transparent and explain their actions wherever necessary in order to avoid mistaken assumptions being drawn as to their intentions.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Courcelles (talk) 01:04, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:08, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
6. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 07:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

It is also acceptable to follow if you think in good faith there are major continuing problems; Hounding is only doing it to be disruptive or because of a personal quarrel. It can be difficult to distinguish this from a good fait attempt to deal with problems. The usual criterion for hounding is also following up where there are no problems, or looking for minor unrelated problems. DGG ( talk ) 06:40, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Forum shopping

8) "Forum shopping" is the raising of essentially the same issue on multiple noticeboards and talk pages, or to multiple administrators, or any of these repetitively. It is unhelpful to finding and achieving consensus.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Doug Weller (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Courcelles (talk) 01:04, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:08, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
7. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Euryalus (talk) 07:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
9. Seraphimblade 03:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Proposed findings of fact

Locus of dispute

1) This case focuses on the conflict between and conduct of Catflap08 (talk · contribs) and Hijiri88 (talk · contribs). The conflict between the two users began on the Kenji Miyazawa and Kokuchūkai articles, and has spilled over to other articles in the Japanese culture topic area, as well as various noticeboards.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:05, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Doug Weller (talk) 16:01, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:09, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Conflict between Catflap08 and Hijiri88

2) There has been an ongoing conflict between Catflap08 (talk · contribs) and Hijiri88 (talk · contribs) since June 2014. The two parties have repeatedly been the subject of attempts at dispute resolution. (Blackmane's evidence)

Support:

1. Slightly repetitive of 1, but illustrates the extent to which dispute resolution has been unsuccessful. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:05, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Doug Weller (talk) 16:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Catflap08 and Hijiri88 interaction ban

3) Catflap08 (talk · contribs) and Hijiri88 (talk · contribs) are subject to a two-way interaction ban, placed on 17 April 2015 after a discussion on the Administrators' noticeboard.

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:05, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Doug Weller (talk) 16:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Catflap08 has violated the interaction ban with Hijiri88

4) Catflap08 (talk · contribs) has repeatedly breached the two-way interaction ban. (, , , )

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Doug Weller (talk) 16:11, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Catflap08 has forum shopped

5) Catflap08 (talk · contribs) has requested comment and dispute resolution for the same issues repeatedly, both across different fora and on a single page. (, , )

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
3. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
4. Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
5. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Catflap08 has edit warred

6) Catflap08 (talk · contribs) has edit warred (on Kenji Miyazawa: , , , , , , ; on Kokuchūkai: , , , ).

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:23, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
2. True though very slow-moving. More a failure to WP:BRD. -- Euryalus (talk) 07:07, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
3. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 03:37, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
4. Slow edit wars are still edit wars. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Hijiri88 has violated the interaction ban with Catflap08

7) Hijiri88 (talk · contribs) has repeatedly breached the two-way interaction ban. (, , , )

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Doug Weller (talk) 16:16, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
6. Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Hijiri88 has edit warred

8) Hijiri88 (talk · contribs) has edit warred. (on Korean influence on Japanese culture: , , , , , ; on Kenji Miyazawa: , , , , , , , ; on Kokuchūkai: , , , )

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Borderline, tbh. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
4. True as a statement of fact, but a fair while ago as Doug Weller observes. -- Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
5. Factually correct, but noting that it was some time ago. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

1. These seem all to have occurred 2 days in early May, I don't see a continued pattern. Doug Weller (talk) 16:20, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Abstain:

Comments:

Added more diffs for this. @Doug Weller: You may wish to review your vote. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:28, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Hijiri88 has engaged in personal attacks and threatening behavior

9) Hijiri88 (talk · contribs) has engaged in personal attacks and incivility, (, , , , , ) and has issued a threat of on-wiki retaliation. ()

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Doug Weller (talk) 16:39, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
4. LFaraone 18:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
5. DGG ( talk ) 06:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
6. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
7. Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
8. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose:

Abstain:

Comments:

Hijiri88 has canvassed

10) Hijiri88 (talk · contribs) has engaged in canvassing. (, , , , )

Support:

1. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
2. Courcelles (talk) 01:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
3. Weakly. -- Euryalus (talk) 07:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Two examples of an editor approaching another editor (the same one both times) aren't sufficient evidence of canvassing. Doug Weller (talk) 16:40, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
2. I don't think there's enough here to support a finding. Seraphimblade 03:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

On balance. -- Euryalus (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Per new diffs. -- Euryalus (talk) 07:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Proposed Principles
Number	Proposal Name	Support	Oppose	Abstain	Status	Support needed	Notes
1	Purpose of Misplaced Pages	8	0	0		·
2	Standards of editor behavior	8	0	0		·
3	Criticism and casting aspersions	8	0	0		·
4	Interaction bans	8	1	0		·
5	Edit warring	8	0	0		·
6	Canvassing	8	0	0		·
7	Hounding	7	0	0		·
8	Forum shopping	8	0	0		·
Proposed Findings of Fact
Number	Proposal Name	Support	Oppose	Abstain	Status	Support needed	Notes
1	Locus of dispute	7	0	0		·
2	Conflict between Catflap08 and Hijiri88	7	0	0		·
3	Catflap08 and Hijiri88 interaction ban	7	0	0		·
4	Catflap08 has violated the interaction ban with Hijiri88	7	0	0		·
5	Catflap08 has forum shopped	4	0	0		2
6	Catflap08 has edit warred	3	0	0		3
7	Hijiri88 has violated the interaction ban with Catflap08	6	0	0		·
8	Hijiri88 has edit warred	4	1	1		2
9	Hijiri88 has engaged in personal attacks and threatening behavior	7	0	0		·
10	Hijiri88 has canvassed	3	1	0		3
11	TH1980 has edit warred	4	1	0		2
12	TH1980 has hounded Hijiri88	4	0	0		2
13	CurtisNaito has edit warred	4	1	0		2
Proposed Remedies
Number	Proposal Name	Support	Oppose	Abstain	Status	Support needed	Notes
1	Catflap08: Topic ban (I)	5	0	0		1
2	Catflap08: Topic ban (II)	3	2	0		3
2.1	Catflap08: 1RR	3	1	0		·
3	Hijiri88: Topic ban (I)	4	0	0		2
4	Hijiri88: Topic ban (II)	4	1	0		2
5	Hijiri88: 1RR	3	1	0		·
6	TH1980: One-way interaction ban	1	4	0		5
6.1	TH1980 and Hijiri88 interaction banned	6	0	0		·
7	CurtisNaito: 1RR	3	2	0		·
8	Administrators encouraged	3	0	1		3
Proposed Enforcement
Number	Proposal Name	Support	Oppose	Abstain	Status	Support needed	Notes
1	Enforcement of restrictions	0	0	0		Cannot pass	Passes by default
2	Appeals and modifications	0	0	0		Cannot pass	Passes by default