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I see that you haven't done a lot of editing over the years, so a warm welcome seems appropriate at last. It's very gratifying to see you working on the Bangladesh upazila articles, which could use all the help they can get! I look forward to seeing you around. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

SM Sultan

It was done automatically by the software, rather than being a change that I intentionally applied. Looking over what happened, though, I believe the problem was that you were using the <ref name=german><!-- Gloss by itself --></ref> format in the article body. That doesn't work as intended, unfortunately — a gloss can't be split off from the reference content in that manner so that it's standing alone as the only content nested inside a particular invocation of the ref tags, but rather has to be directly next to the actual content of the reference it's glossing.

So in this particular case, if the gloss is necessary for one particular invocation of the reference but not applicable to others, it might be necessary to create a separate ref=german2 citation for the content that needs to be specifically glossed as "supports solo", citing the specific page number in the source that "supports solo" instead of the entire page range of ref=german, so that the gloss can be left in the references list alongside the content of that particular citation.

Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Revisions to Battered Soles draft

Dear Worldbruce: Could you take one more pass at the Battered Soles draft? I have added a link to the info about the Stephen Leacock Medal nomination -- I think it made just the long-list -- but I've clearly not done it properly. I really appreciate your help! GraceOdin (talk) 13:30, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@GraceOdin: The Leacock citation just needed the "url=" property and a closing </ref> tag. The draft is now as good as I can make it. A better writer than I am would integrate material from the Winnipeg Free Press and Nimble Spirit reviews into the reception section, thereby transforming those citations from further reading into references.

I'm hesitant about the Literary Tourist entry. From its wording and date, I suspect it was copied from Misplaced Pages's Paul Nicholas Mason article, where it was first inserted on 27 October 2008. If so, citing it would be circular sourcing. I've made a mental note to flag it as citation needed in the author's article. What is really needed is a reference to wherever it first appeared, perhaps the local newspaper or church newsletter.

It's possible that the draft will still be declined on the grounds that the book is not notable enough to have a standalone article. If that happens you may want to consider other options, such as merging the material into the article about the author.Worldbruce (talk) 16:54, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks, Worldbruce! GraceOdin (talk) 18:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Worldbruce, I have tried to update the link that you found to an archived review of Battered Soles in Nimble Spirit on the author's Paul Nicholas Mason page, but I messed it up somehow. Could you possibly take a look? ...I have been adding a lot of stuff to pages about other Canadian writers -- Helen Humphreys, Diane Schoemperlen, Miriam Toews -- and I want to create several new author articles, but I'm still having trouble with some of the fundamentals.  :-( GraceOdin (talk) 07:11, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@GraceOdin: It's taken care of. There are a lot of fiddly bits when formatting references. Don't worry if you don't nail them right away. The real fundamental is to always always record your source for anything you write. Another editor can always tidy up the formatting later.Worldbruce (talk) 07:51, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you SO much! GraceOdin (talk) 13:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I really appreciate the support you gave to Battered Soles, WB. Feeling a bit discouraged at the moment as there are a number of other books I'd like to create articles for... I think I'm going to step away for awhile and maybe try again in a few weeks. GraceOdin (talk) 03:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Up for a challenge? Yes!

Hi Worldbruce,

Yes, I'd be interested in improving the article about the luthier Brian Lisus. I do need help getting hold of the sources. I've already searched and there isn't much. Please send me what you have. I'm not sure how to use sources that you have to subscribe to read. I avoided them when I wrote the Schenkman article.

My husband used to work for a violin maker and I'll ask him if he has any ideas for this project.

RoseSong — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoseSong (talk • contribs) 03:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Bari High School,Bari

Hey, thanks for the heads up. I've redirected the page to the relevant article. I guess it's okay now? Cheers VS6507 (talk) 05:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

@VS6507: Padua Town is at least in the right country and state, but at 18°13′N 82°25′E / 18.22°N 82.42°E / 18.22; 82.42, is still 550 km away from Bari High School,Bari (21°09′23″N 86°37′49″E / 21.1563°N 86.6304°E / 21.1563; 86.6304). Why redirect it at all? I'm not a fan of one sentence high school articles, but if it went to WP:AfD it would be kept per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, not redirected. I've no doubt someone familiar with sourcing schools in India could choose a reliable source out of the many search engine hits for it. Worldbruce (talk) 16:39, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

About Edit In Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Agricultural University

You removed History from the page of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Agricultural University. Sorry to say I have added all of the Information you removed. The website of the university is under construction so it cannot open for all. I am not the copyright holder of the information but I gave the Reference of the given information. Everything is Added from a publication by BSMRAU in March 2008 named Handbook For Undergraduate Students. The infrastructure is added by myself. I am studying in this university. I edit this page to available informations to all. I think I am not avoiding or violating Misplaced Pages's Copyright Laws. If I violate then I can't understand how. You told me to write in my own words. I just give the information which I found in the book. I can't understand how to write in my own words. If you can please edit the copyright protected writings and help the page. I am a new user. May be I have some fault at first. You should not warn me first time to block from editing.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmhshuvobd (talk • contribs) 05:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello Mmhshuvobd, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. While we appreciate your interest in contributing, there are certain things you must understand about using information from copyrighted sources to avoid violating Misplaced Pages policies.

• Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Misplaced Pages:Copyrights.
• The text on http://bsmrau.edu.bd/ is published by Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Agricultural University with "All Rights reserved by BSMRAU © 2015." That means that no one may copy it, even if their intentions are good, and even if they cite the source from which they copied it.
• You may use the university website and/or handbook as a source of information, but not of content, such as sentences. Suppose a source says, "Brilliant Student University (BSU) is a government-financed university of Bangladesh and the third agricultural university in the country." Then you may not write that in Misplaced Pages. You may rephrase and reorganize the information and express it using your own words, for example: "Brilliant Student University (BSU) is a public agricultural university in Bangladesh, established in 1998."
• You must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words or structure too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Misplaced Pages:Close paraphrasing. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue. Many universities, perhaps including yours, have policies banning plagiarism. Violating them can have real-world consequences, such as expulsion.) Even when using your own words, you are still expected to cite your sources to verify information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. Worldbruce (talk) 06:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello Worldbruce, I can understand. Thank u for your response. I'll edit the informations very soon as you said on the basis of Misplaced Pages's law and regulations.

Draft:TodayTix

Hi WorldBruce, thanks for your comment on Draft:TodayTix. I have made a bunch of edits (well, technically, mostly one big complex edit, because I don't care about pumping up my edits-made stats) to the draft. Specifically:

• Moved the two founders from the "Key people" infobox field to the "Founder" field, leaving four people listed as "key". I'm perfectly willing to pare this further; those names were entered by the draft's creator, TodayTix, for whatever that's worth.
• Removed entirely from the "Executive team" section anyone who had not been written about in sources I could easily find online, and rewrote the remaining people's paragraphs to be entirely sourced (except as noted below).
• Found sources to substantiate the claims of "partnership" and "first-ever", and use of the term "mobile lottery"; these are now cited where the terms appear in the text. I also added some clarifying language as appropriate.
• The Lovitz / HuffPo source is now cited solely as a source for the founders describing themselves as "passionate theater fans", which I think is uncontroversial enough, but if you disagree I can remove that source entirely.
• Added a number of new sources, all I believe notable news providers.
• Changed the "Criticism" section to "Drawbacks and criticism" and added individually sourced drawbacks. I felt list format would be more readable for the drawbacks, but I'm willing to put them in paragraph format instead.
• Removed the anonymous producers' "training" comment as I could not find any other source saying anything similar to what was in the Forbes blog post. Found an alternate piece of criticism via a reliable source. When possible I do like to include relevant criticism on articles about companies that were clearly started by a member of the company.
• Added an assortment of new content from sources I found while looking for sources to address the issues you raised.
• Improved phrasing here and there.

I appreciate the opportunity to improve the draft further without getting a formal review-and-rejection. I hope I've now addressed all the issues you had with it.

The one part of the pre-existing draft I wasn't able to adequately address was the clause "where he developed and launched marketing and ticketing initiatives still in use" referring to Brian Fenty's work for the Yankees. If you have access to the WSJ, I would appreciate it if you could check whether the above quote is supported by the WSJ source given; I feel it should be removed from the article if not supported, as I could find no other source discussing his work for the Yankees, but I didn't want to just delete it in case there was support in the source that's right there.

Thanks again, GrammarFascist _contribs 00:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

@GrammarFascist: The changes you describe sound promising. I'm taking a wikibreak from Articles for creation, but one of the other reviewers should be along to review the draft within the next 10 days or so. I don't have ready access to The Wall Street Journal, but there's a project for that. If you ask at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request, the helpful folks there will do their best to locate any source you need and email you a pdf. Worldbruce (talk) 01:09, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Request on 18:23:22, 11 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by ArtemisVader

• ArtemisVader (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Clayton Conlan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for your review of my draft Clayton Conlan. I added eight references from seven independent sources, to address the notability issue.

ArtemisVader (talk) 18:23, 11 October 2015 (UTC)ArtemisVader

ArtemisVader (talk) 18:23, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

@ArtemisVader: Glad to hear that you're continuing to improve it. When I've declined a draft, I don't review it again in AfC if it's resubmitted. This policy gives authors the benefit of a fresh look by a reviewer who may have different strengths. One of the other reviewers should get to it within the next couple of weeks. Worldbruce (talk) 00:37, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

One more article on interwar Austria

Sorry to bother again but while using this article you kindly sent I realized there is another one that may be useful for the July revolt: this one. Do you think it would be possible to get me a copy of that one as well? Plenty of interwar Austria to work on but making progress thanks to these sources... Thank you in advance!--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 10:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

@Rowanwindwhistler: I will try to get that for you. Unfortunately I don't have remote access to Cambridge. When I travel to a place that has a good university library I do research there for articles I'm working on and knock off a few resource requests at the same time. My next opportunity for that won't be for about ten days. You may get an earlier result from another volunteer by either amending your original resource request or opening a fresh one. Worldbruce (talk) 16:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I see, no problem then, I will try asking for it at the resource page. Thank you!--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 19:45, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I just realized The DollfuΒ Ministry: The Demise of the Nationalrat was not among the articles you kindly sent me (I thought I had checked them all but it seems I overlooked this one). I have asked for it in the resource page along with others I have found in the meantime but just in case you happen to get access to the Cambridge website again, it would be great if you could get me that article as well (no hurry, I have some other sources to check too). Thank you!--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 20:30, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh well, between when I downloaded them and when I attached them to an email to you, someone else sent them your way, so I guess you now have two copies. Worldbruce (talk) 05:08, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Many many thanks all the same, better to have two copies than none!--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 05:52, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Mail about Ascoli 2009

Hi Worldbruce, thank you for undertaking to fulfill my request at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request/Archive16#Chapter from Psychiatrist and traditional healers – via Wiley Online Library DOI. This is the first time I have used Special:EmailUser and I am not sure if I did it right. Did my message get to you? –BoBoMisiu (talk) 20:04, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi BoBoMisiu, I haven't received any actual email from you, just the notice printed above and an email from Misplaced Pages saying that I had the above message, but not showing your return address. Perhaps "Enable email from other users" was not checked in your preferences at the time. When I went to your user page I noticed the address "info@robert-kobylinski.com" in the infobox, so that's where I sent the pdf on 23 October. I can send it again and/or to a different address if you didn't receive it there. Worldbruce (talk) 20:21, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I just changed that email in infobox and sent another Special:EmailUser to user Worldbruce. I hope that works. –BoBoMisiu (talk) 20:30, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Woo Hoo! Got it and the attachment opens too. TYVM. –BoBoMisiu (talk) 22:03, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Liga II

Can you help me to edit Liga II, the seasons in "red". Thanks!--Alexiulian25 (talk) 18:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Bugwah, Bangladesh

This is an old post office location, found in P.D. Allen's list, at http://worldpostmarks.net/HTML Countries/IndiaandStates.htm

Rajshahi division may have been superceded; on maps it appears to be almost due east of Rangpur.

http://geographic.org/geographic_names/name.php?uni=-3770753&fid=548&c=bangladesh Latitude in decimal degrees : 25.716667 Longitude in decimal degrees : 89.716667

"The information regarding Bugwah in Bangladesh on this page is published from the data supplied by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a member of the Intelligence community of the United States of America, and a Department of Defense (DoD) Combat Support Agency."

They then print this disclaimer: "No claims are made regarding the accuracy of Bugwah information contained here."Fconaway (talk) 02:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

@Fconaway: Thanks! With that additional information I found that the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency records "Bugwah" as a variant of "Bagua, Anantapur", which is a village in Hatia Union, Ulipur Upazila, Kurigram District, Rangpur Division, Bangladesh, very close to the coordinates in the article. Anantapur appears on the upazila maps, and appears on Google maps as Onantapur.

Bagua, Anantapur is quite small, so I'm not sure that it is the same as the early Indian post office using killer cancel 158. There are at least five other Baguas in what is now Bangladesh, some of which seem more likely candidates for a match. Our local philatelic library has a copy of Jal Cooper's Early Indian Cancellations, so I'll check that as soon as I get a chance. Worldbruce (talk) 18:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Good progress! Jal Cooper's Early Indian Cancellations may not have what you are looking for. The latest word on this is Denis R. Martin, Numbers in Early Indian Cancellations, 1855-1884. I would look it up, but my copy is in storage. I hope your library has it. Remember, it must be specifically the B/158 in the Bengal Octagon, or "Bengal spiderweb": that is Renouf's Type , which would also be Cooper's Type 7. Renouf, the pioneer, listed this as Bugwah.Fconaway (talk) 02:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Here is a scan of a letter cancelled B/158, dated 29 September 1869. It was back-stamped "Traveling P. O. Bengal"; it may have been carried by a river steamer. This appeared in a Feldman auction lot in Sept 2013.Fconaway (talk) 00:22, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

@Fconaway: Intriguing. I don't actually see a scan ... am I missing a link?

Thanks for emailing me the journal article on Ukraine

Much appreciated. Kingsindian ♝♚ 11:03, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

The edits in the article of Matiur Rahman

Hello, I am User:Amfmaads. I agree with your opinion that wikipedia should be neutral as possible. Now, coming to the article Matiur Rahman (military pilot), you must see the article of his counterpart in the death incident, Rashid Minhas. If I have to agree that Martyrdom is a term of point of view, then his article should not also contain it. Amfmaads (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Amfmaads, I'm glad we agree on what is Misplaced Pages policy. How should it be applied in this instance? Reliable sources (The Nation, BBC News) describe Rahman as a hijacker, a traitor, and someone with "evil designs". Other reliable sources (The Daily Star, BBC News) describe Rahman as a hero, a defector, and martyred. There are different points of view.

When reliable sources disagree, the policy of keeping a neutral point of view requires that we describe the competing views without endorsing any in particular or giving any view undue weight. Of the reliable, easily accessible sources, only The Daily Star uses the term martyr (or shaheed). Chosing to prominently title the section on his death "Maryrdom" gives undue weight to that point of view. "Death", on the other hand, is neutral. All sources agree that he died. The paragraph then correctly goes on to explain both points of view. Readers can form their own opinions.

Misplaced Pages is forever a work in progress. It contains high quality content and low quality content. The argument that "other articles exist" (that are bad) is not a sound reason to make Matiur Rahman (military pilot) worse. Does Rashid Minhas need improvement? So fix it! But be sure there are reliable sources expressing different points of view. If all the available sources agree that he was a martyr, then that's a perfectly reasonable way to describe him in the article about him, whatever your personal feelings may be. Worldbruce (talk) 01:08, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Dhaka Derby

Hey! I am very glad to you for your contribution in The Dhaka Derby. But you know I am new in Misplaced Pages. Why don't you help me by adding some more information and reference about the Dhaka Derby. Hopefully you will. Bye take care. NayemRahman (talk) 04:08, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

@NayemRahman: I'm already working on improving several thousand other articles, so I probably won't have time to help you with Dhaka Derby. You can try asking for assistance at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Football or Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Bangladesh. Misplaced Pages welcomes new editors, but unreferenced or poorly referenced articles are often deleted; creating them wastes your time and that of other editors. It's best to do the initial work on a subject in your sandbox or using the Article wizard. Move a topic into article space only when you're sure the subject is notable and the referencing is solid.

In List of highest grossing Bangladeshi films you mention that there is no official tracking and publishers of box office figures are often pressured to inflate estimates. In my experience there is no reliable source for box office date on Bangladeshi films. Although you describe boxofficebangladesh.com as a "reputable" source, it is a blog, and doesn't fit Misplaced Pages's definition of a reliable source. If you are unsure, you can ask at the reliable source noticeboard or Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Film. When no independent, reliable sources exist on a topic, Misplaced Pages should not have an article on it, so the list should be deleted. Worldbruce (talk) 05:34, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I want to add my company

Dear, I want to add/create a page for my company. I have some reference link. Can you help me? Sohelranaxyz (talk) 04:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

@Sohelranaxyz: Most companies don't have and shouldn't have an article here. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a business directory. It is not for marketing, promotion, or public relations.

A notability guideline is used to determine whether a company may qualify to be included. Your company most likely is not notable, or someone already would have written an article about it.

If, after studying the guidelines, you are convinced that your company is one of the very few that is notable, then present your proof (in the form of books written about your company, articles about it in scholarly journals, mainstream newspapers, magazines, etc.) at Requested Articles/Companies. Keep in mind that information must be from reliable arms-length sources. Nothing that originates from your company (no press releases, no interviews with the CEO, nothing from its website) is of any value at this stage. A volunteer will evaluate your request and write an article about your company if it's possible.

Before you begin, be sure to review WP:BFAQ#COMPANY. If there's any negative information out there now or in the future, it will make its way into any article about your company. Worldbruce (talk) 05:09, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you and Seasons Greetings

I received the information and it was of great help. I hope the holiday season brings great joy and happiness to you and your family!--Mark Miller (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Literacy rate of Barisal

Please review the Census report of 2011. I think, this is so much acceptable than your source. thanks! Ssoebmizan (talk) 07:08, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

@Ssoebmizan: I'm sure you're right, but in order to list the new figure, a citation to the 2011 census has to be added to the Barisal District article. Help:Referencing for beginners explains how to add one. You can also look at an example of an article that cites the 2011 census, Kabirhat Upazila, although I think the webserver has changed recently to http://www.bbs.gov.bd/, and there may be other changes to the url. If you can't figure out how to add the citation, leave me a note here and I'll get to it eventually, but there are 600+ other district, upazila, union, municipality, etc. articles that also need updating. Worldbruce (talk) 07:27, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Barnstar of National Merit
		For all your work on Bangladesh related articles Vinegarymass911 (talk) 20:05, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
		this WikiAward was given to Worldbruce by Vinegarymass911 (talk) on 20:05, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

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@Vinegarymass911: Thanks for the encouragement, I'll wear it with pride. The articles that are in the scope of WikiProject Bangladesh are improving, but it's a slow process. Keep up the good work. Worldbruce (talk) 20:37, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Mail ;-)

- LouisAragon (talk) 22:27, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

January 2016

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