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	Thank you Nihonjoe for all your help. Northernva (talk) 02:19, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Not sure what it's for, but thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:31, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Involuntary Celebacy AFD IV - The Return

Samwalton9 (talk · contribs) has already put together a list of the recommendations, and I've added a section for discussion, if you want to keep everything in one place. Not sure if three concurring closes or one joint close would be better. In any event, thanks for taking a crack at it with us. UltraExactZZ ~ Did 03:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for your help at Misplaced Pages talk:Copyright problems! Iceblock (talk) 21:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

No problem. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hei (Norwegian for "hi"...I posted the Iceoeople page and am wondering...

...sending this unsigned because I can't seem to do anything at all anymore on Wiki while signed in after your block. Anyhow, as I wrote to the user who originally flagged me, I'm rather impressed how quickly you spot obscure entries like mine. And my practical question was is there a way to modify what I felt was a totally bland entry to meet Wiki standards, or do you consider it invalid no matter what if I've wriiten it? Mostly curiosity, since my newspaper and self-worth won't live or die on a Wiki entry...but it's also intriguing to see what happens when a newbie gets pummeled in the "process" here. Anyhow, a PM or e-mail to <redacted> would be appreciated.

You can edit your own user talk page, so please login and post comments there. As for how we notice things like this, we have various tools which can show us things like that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

ChristineAtFreshTV

Hi Nihonjoe, I noticed that you indeffed ChristineAtFreshTV but it doesn't seem in my estimation that the username was in violation of policy. The user was previously named AtFreshTV, but it looks like they recently had a name change. ChristineAtFreshTV seems consistent with WP:ISU, which says, "However, usernames are acceptable if they contain a company or group name but are clearly intended to denote an individual person, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", "WidgetFan87", etc." Thoughts? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:53, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

You are correct. I didn't see that she had been renamed. She still needs to avoid editing articles about shows she produced. I've unblocked her. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Social justice

The page Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Social justice was an AfD from February 6, 2005. Please move the current one to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Social justice (2nd nomination) and restore the deleted history of the first AfD. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:07, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

No, it was a category for deletion discussion, which didn't belong there. All that was on the page was a link to the CFD. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Sock

The first of Azurachan (talk · contribs)'s socks has showed up on Dance with Devils: 79.81.232.113 (talk · contribs) made this edit changing the spelling to their preferred version. Do you think it would be worth opening an SPI to deal with them, or should they just be blocked as they show up? G S Palmer (talk • contribs)

The article's been protected again. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:48, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

SDAJ undelete

Hi. Could you undelete Socialist German Workers Youth? As the creator of the article, I was not informed that it had been nominated for deletion, and in the edit history there are versions that by no means constitute advertisement. --Soman (talk) 02:19, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I have restored it to User:Soman/Socialist German Workers Youth, where you can work on it until it meets the requirements for being in mainspace. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Look, this was an article that suffered a weird vandalism on Dec 23, 2015. The reasonable thing to do would have been to revert the vandalism, rather than deleting the article. Checking the edit history is better than rash deletions. I didn't see any speedy template in the edit history restored, nor was there any notification of the proposal to delete it. --Soman (talk) 23:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

It was deleted as part of a group of spamming that was done by an editor (now blocked), and it appeared the article was more of the spam from that article. I undeleted it at your request. There was no "rash deletion" going on. It appeared this was part of the spamming. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:24, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

checking

I hope you didn't take offense to my comment. I assure you that none was intended. — Ched : ? 01:13, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@Ched: Oh, I was totally offended. Please excuse me while I go weep quietly in the corner. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

OK .. I literally did "LOL" ... yep - I asked for that one. :) — Ched : ? 01:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Brianhe

Closing this discussion. Please keep it all in one place. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I think you may have overvalued the rush of votes at the end, and there should have been a crat discussion--but perhaps there was one. DGG ( talk ) 02:43, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) We don't discuss how to close RfAs off-wiki, if that's what you're wondering when you say "perhaps there was one". –xeno 03:20, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Yup, we don't discuss such things off wiki. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:13, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

that's good practice. It would be even better to discuss them on wiki when they fall in the discretionary range. I'm thinking of proposing an amendment that in the discretionary range, a chat must be held. It might well lead to the same conclusion, but it gives it better acceptability. For example, the agreement of all the crats who commented in the chat on Hawkeye should satisfy anyone, whether or not they agree with the conclusion. DGG ( talk ) 07:03, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome to propose whatever you like. However, then we deal with impatient people who want it closed. In this case, there was not a consensus to promote, despite your support. If Brianhe wants to question the decision, that is perfectly acceptable, but when the person whose RfA it is hasn't even said much of anything about it, it really doesn't give you a solid foundation on which to build. You're welcome to invite all the crats to come comment on the RfA talk page where you and Ghost are complaining so much. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:18, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

It seems you were unduly harsh. That the twelve year veteran was acting contrary to anything "fundamental" about Misplaced Pages was obviously rejected by the super-majority, would it not have been better to at least mention that in your close? Eg., Although the majority did not agree . . .. The kind of statement you made seems particularly designed to wound, if not drive that person off the project altogether. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

My comments were anything but unduly harsh (I'm assuming you are talking about my comments at the top of the RfA). I just condensed the discussion into three paragraphs to help people understand the reasoning behind the close. It would be very sad if Brianhe decided to quite after a single disappointment like this, but that decision is entirely up to him. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:23, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

You wrote: "While not specifically mentioned by anyone opposing, many of the comments in that section addressed concerns about the actions of the candidate not being in line with the fundamental principles of Misplaced Pages. With the large number of editors who changed from supporting to opposing this candidate, and after thoroughly reviewing the comments left by members of the community in this discussion, I must close this discussion as unsuccessful." That's extremely harsh, without noting that it was a "super" minority in light of the so called "large number". It's not the disappointment that would wound or even drive him off - it's the allegation that he is fundamentally at cross purposes to Misplaced Pages, for goodness sake -- an allegation which was overwhelmingly rejected. Alanscottwalker (talk) 23:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Multiple people expressed concerns about Brianhe caring more about getting rid of alleged COI editors than creating a neutral article. Multiple people expressed concerns with actions bordering on incivility toward alleged COI editors. Multiple people expressed concerns about a thought process and stance which did not support Misplaced Pages being content that "anyone can use, edit, and distribute." You may choose to discount those opinions, and it is true there were fewer of those opposing than those supporting, but there were enough expressing those concerns that I could see no consensus to promote. I have no doubt that Brianhe does everything he does here out of concern for making Misplaced Pages a better place. No concerns at all. My summary and reasoning expressed there was merely a reflection of the discussion, and there was no solid consensus in that discussion. I'm sorry you don't like the decision, but everything about my decision in this case was very solidly based. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Your over-lengthy re-cap is just non-responsive to what I have brought to you. I have not argued the "fewer opinions" were not enough to find no consensus (of course "no consensus" is never mentioned in your close, so that should tell you right there that your close lacked, at the least, clarity) - it is the harshness in which you chose to express yourself in your express lack of acknowledgement that, that aspect of opinion regarding Brianhe's alleged malfeasance against Misplaced Pages fundamentals was in the fractional minority. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:07, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

You are correct I didn't mention that in my close. For some reason, I thought I had. I have corrected that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:23, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Although, not quite all the way there, that is better. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

I did not read it as harsh. It was just a summary of the debate. What a tempest in a teapot! HighInBC 15:21, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Failing to put you in others' position and thus to not recognize what motivates those uncomfortable with the procedure does not empower you to reduce our tempest to a teapot (I was unaware of this discussion). Caballero/Historiador 16:30, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

It is not a declaration of fact, just my opinion. I am very much empowered to give my opinion. Assign whatever weight to it you see fit. HighInBC 16:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Category:Analysts of Kashmir conflict

Thanks for closing Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_October_16#Category:Analysts_of_Kashmir_conflict. The proposal was actually for renaming, not deletion as stated at Category talk:Analysts of Kashmir conflict. Deletion was suggested by some, but there was no consensus to delete. IMHO the close should have then gone back to see whether the non-deletion votes supported renaming – which they did. Would you be prepared to reconsider your close? – Fayenatic London 14:35, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

There was no consensus on what needed to be done there. I suggest taking it to the appropriate talk page determining a course of action there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:52, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

When closing RfA as successful

Don't forget to send our new admins to WP:ADMINGUIDE! :) — MusikAnimal 18:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

It's linked from WP:ADMIN (as are a bunch of other useful pages), and I sent him there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:18, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Recent

Earlier today, you changed the close on the Brianhe RfA from "unsuccessful" to "no consensus". Shouldn't that change also be made to the Recent list of the seven most recent closes, since that's what most people will see going forward? (As I'm not an admin, I thought it would be inappropriate for me to edit the page.) Thanks, and sorry to bother you if it would have been an appropriate edit for me to make. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:35, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Xeno already took care of that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:36, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

re special:diff/704012863: Don't we use UTC specifically so there's no confusion over "my time" / "your time"? –xeno 00:40, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- I know for talk page edits we do. For that template, it doesn't list things like that, so I don't know. It was somewhere in the 5pm hour for me when I did that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:42, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Xeno: My UTC offset is -7, so it would have been just past midnight UTC. That template doesn't list the timezone information, however. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
  - Your signatures say 6 Feb, so that's why people are listing 6 Feb on the relevant pages. –xeno 00:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
    - To me, they say 5 Feb. Maybe we ought to change the instructions to put in ~~~~~ instead of manually entering a date. That would avoid confusion. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
      - Ahhhh- that explains it. You're using some kind of gadget to show your local time. –xeno 01:01, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
        It's not even a gadget. It's just one of the preferences where you enter your local offset from UTC (the Appearance tab). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:03, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
        Right... I remember now. I turned it off years ago and learned to live in UTC, probably for similar reasons. –xeno 01:06, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
        Yeah, I keep it on because I find it useful. Occasionally, it causes problems. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:09, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Counterfeit (Band) - Notability

Hi,

Thanks for your help, I'm pretty new to all of this wiki editing stuff. What sort of secondary sources need to be added for the article to be legitimate? I just assumed the iTunes, Kerrang! & AMBY links would be enough grounds for the article to remain.

Regards, --- Scrotestotes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrotestotes (talk • contribs) 19:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

@Scrotestotes: There needs to be some sort of claim of notability. See WP:BAND for more details. Please also review WP:RS and WP:COI. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:11, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Not really sure I understand, because it seems as though criterion 1, 2, 4 & 5 on WP:BAND have been fulfilled. The iTunes, Kerrang! & AMBY links are all credible organisations WP:RS It's pretty clear what you think if you link this as a sidenote: WP:COI, I have no stake in any part of their business, nor do I know them personally.

Clearly I'm missing something? Could you explain further?

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrotestotes (talk • contribs)

@Scrotestotes: You need to use reliable sources in order to provide verification that it meets those criteria. You can find direction on using sources here. The iTunes link is just a listing for a single. Listing on iTunes does not help establish notability. The Kerrang! post is just a list of upcoming shows, and also does nothing to establish notability. I am not familiar with AMBY, so I can't speak to whether they would be considered a reliable source per the criteria here. I suggest asking at WikiProject Music to see if they can help you fix up the article. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh! My God!

Hello Nihonjoe - Before leaving this accusation at my talk page,

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Blue_Indigo&diff=703888306&oldid=702401437

and thanking me (how ironic!) for my contributions , wouldn't it have been wise to actually take the time to have a look at my contributions, and also at the history of my talk page, which has been vandalized by a certain and his colony of sockpuppets who, for a while now, has been using in his socknames "Blue Indigo" with spelling variations, and lately in a very vulgar manner. That guy has been vandalizing all the articles I work on with the result that these articles had to be protected. To get an idea, please check my contributions since last August.

Consequently, if you are an administrator, I am requesting of you to solve the problem, and find a way to keep people from signing into Misplaced Pages with the sole purpose of vandalizing.

Also, if a "contributor" with a name that has "Blue Indigo" or something similar in it comes & vandalizes your talk page, which is likely since that guy follows my every step, please be sure to investigate before accusing me of being that vandal using multiple accounts.

Under the circumstances, I do believe that, instead of being warned, accused and/or threatened, I should be thanked for my doggedness in my continued participation at en.wiki in spite of the conditions created since August 2015.

Best regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 10:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, since leaving that, I have determined that you are correct. Someone else pointed that out for you, too. I left an apology at your talk page. Even admins make mistakes sometimes. We're all human. Again, sorry for the trouble. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Nihonjoe: The whole affair is beginning to hit me as rather humorous, a comedy of errors, and all I can say is that if humans (aka administrators) make mistakes sometimes, this was a case of overshooting way beyond the target!

When I have time, I will gather a few other names Aubmn has signed & vandalized under, and which you or other administrators may want to add to that list

Thank you for the apology: nothing wrong on your part.

Best regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

User:Debianux

Do you believe that the page User:Debianux should be deleted? I noticed that you deleted the user's page which they were named after "Debianux" and before the name they have now. (I originally noticed that this was a broken redirect, and honestly have no other opinion about the redirect's fate.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Same question for User:Debianux/Editcounter ... the only subpage of User:Debianux. Steel1943 (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Steel1943: No, they are fine the way they are. They did not request they be deleted when they vanished. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:24, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough. Just thought that they might have been overlooked since they were broken redirects prior to me correcting them. Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 18:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

NOI BAI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

Dear Nihonjoe, All of my images are not copyright. I asked the person who took the picture to let me use their pictures to put on wikipedia. I even asked the Noi Bai international airport to use their logo. I'm Vietnamese, i live in Hanoi so i'm trying to make the airport a more informative place. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finn.nguyen (talk • contribs) 08:47, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Please discuss it on the talk page of the airport. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Sock of Otwebmaster

Oakland.dan.williams, as WP:DUCK as it gets. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 00:48, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

The block notice I placed on Otwebmaster's talk page states in part "You may simply create a new account", so there's no problem as far as the new account goes and being a sock. There may be WP:COI issues, though, so feel free to keep an eye on the account. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:32, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Or, if they continue vandalizing, they can be blocked for that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:36, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

TO NIHONJOE: I will SUE YOU since YOU, Nihonjoe CREATED MY NAME-IMAGE OF A BLOCKED USER?! JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A LONG USERNAME?! You could have asked me first to edit!

TO NIHONJOE: I will sue you since You disrespected with malice the publishing of my name under a blocked category?! You could have asked me first to edit! I forgive you but remove me from blocked category or I will sue you for malice publishing of my name under blocked category without asking me to edit it first! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.143.104 (talk) 03:58, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

== TO: Misplaced Pages: I legally request for the true name-human profile of NIHONJOE who unjustly maliciously published my name under blocked category. == My HEART is currently in pain cos of what he unjustly did! I WILL SUE

WHAT YOU DID TO ME, Nihonjoe is unjust!

https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Ms._Gemma_Linas_Buquiran_Live_At_Hashtags

== To WIKIPEDIA: I legally request for the true name-human profile of NIHONJOE who unjustly maliciously published my name under blocked category. == My HEART is currently in pain cos of what he unjustly did! I WILL SUE

https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Ms._Gemma_Linas_Buquiran_Live_At_Hashtags — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.143.176 (talk) 04:55, 21 February 2016 (UTC)