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Re: Twelve Gauge Valentine

Hello! I requested userfication of the Twelve Gauge Valentine, and I see you have found the usercopy; I have not moved it to mainspace. I thought it used to have more references in it, but I was mistaken. I took a look around and found several resources which might be helpful to restoring the page, though I am not certain I will do so myself; the band only put out one album, which didn't chart, and the page has already had two AfDs, which means the battle would be uphill (prejudice is against you). I found a band biography on Allmusic, album review, album review, album review, album review, and Alternative Press covering their breakup. That's decent, but it might not be enough to convince the red-tape machine of DRV that the article should be restored. Would you like me to move the page to your userspace, if you are going to do more work on it? Chubbles (talk) 02:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that would be nice. Thank you! Metalworker14 (talk) 8:34, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay, it's been moved to User:Metalworker14/Twelve Gauge Valentine. Enjoy. Chubbles (talk) 16:11, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank U! You can help out too if u want. Metalworker14 (talk) 3:37, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

March 2015

Hi there, I'm Serge, and admin here on Misplaced Pages. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but do you think maybe it would be a good idea to slow down and learn a little bit more about Misplaced Pages before making so many articles? I've noticed a lot of your article are being nominated for deletion or redirected.

I think you basically just need to start writing article using more third party reliable sources in order to make sure that the topic meets the WP:GNG. I think some of the article you've created, like for instance, Ghost Thief (album), are notable, however, the way you're writing them, makes them appear like they're not. You really should try to have at least 4 to 5 sources present when creating an article. And you really should add a few paragraph's of content in - it's generally frowned upon to create album article's that have nothing but a track listing. Creating a reception section, outline reviews for an album, for instance, is a good way to prove that it's worthy of having its own article.

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I don't mean to offend or scare you away, I just don't want your work to be wasted on efforts that just keep getting eliminated. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks.Sergecross73 msg me 13:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

No problem. As I said here, I don't agree with the nomination, I think he's off base, but if you are just a little more thorough with your articles, you'd be able to eliminate these misunderstandings altogether, you know? Let me know if you need help. Sergecross73 msg me 14:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Re: Ghost Thief

That other editor was not supposed to do that. I'll monitor the page to make sure it won't happen again. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 23:16, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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They are notable, and these sources prove that fact Cross Rhythms, HM Magazine, Indie Vision Music, and Jesus Freak Hideout. Their album article, The Tide Will Swallow Us Whole, has already been created; even further establishing their notability per general notability guidelines because it takes precedence over band criteria. You do have a plagiarism issue with regards to the draft you submitted because the prose was lifted almost verbatim from MTV. Even with attribution, it is plagiarism and copyright infringement. Why don't you put stuff in your own words and vocabulary? I would advise you to delete the prose entirely and put their history in your own words, from the sources you have. Plus, the ones I provided. I know you can do the task, by looking at my recent examples, and fulfill the task for this group that you care(d) about. I am cheering you on to get the article created.The Cross Bearer (talk) 03:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

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Use these sources

Demise of Eros album, Neither Storm Nor Quake Nor Fire, has been reviewed by Cross Rhythms and Indie Vision Music, substantiating their notability.The Cross Bearer (talk) 10:29, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

OK. I'll get to work on it when I can. --Metalworker14 (Yo) 14:44, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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Give Us Barabbas

This album is notable, per AllMusic, Cross Rhythms, and The Phantom Tollbooth.The Cross Bearer (talk) 08:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Serianna

This band is clearly notable, per Indie Vision Music Inheritors review, The New Review Inheritors review, New Noise Magazine Define Me review, Pure Grain Audio Define Me review, Kill Your Stereo Media Define Me review, and Indie Vision Music interview, while here is their Facebook About page.The Cross Bearer (talk) 05:57, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

If you want more metal/hardcore groups to work on making new pages, just request some more on my talk page.The Cross Bearer (talk) 06:39, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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I'm not sure why you've decided to add timelines, but the one for Ethan Luck was not necessary. Most of the "live bands" were just touring gigs to pay the bills. Listing them isn't worthwhile. It's not more worthwhile than listing live performers for other bands. They're not members, it's just jobs. You're essentially making a pretty C.V. for mr. Luck. Some of the other timelines were good additions, but take a look at the Zao timeline now. It correctly lists bars (using "albums" rather than "black" and formats the data in easier to read columns when viewed in a monospaced font.

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Please take a look at this edit. The first thing you should notice is that if you're defining the colours in the Colors = section, you should use them. So for instance. id:UVocals value:claret legend:Unclean_vocals defines the colour for unclean vocals. When you use it, don't do bar:KW from:01/01/2006 till:01/01/2010 color:claret, but do bar:KW from:01/01/2006 till:01/01/2010 color:UVocals instead. Notice that the colour is the one you defined in the colors section. That way, someone can come along and change the colour in the definition section and it applies to all of the entries for that definition. Also, I defined id:Album value:black legend:Albums and id:EP value:gray(0.55) legend:EP rather than "lines" and made the change in the LineData section.

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Hey Walter. I'm wondering if you are on Solid State Records mailing list, cause if so, after you log in, there is a tab that says "Artist Widget", and if you select Living Sacrifice as the artist, then it shows the copyright to the image. Misplaced Pages would not let me input this link because of one the value of the URL. --Metalworker14 (Yo) 15:00, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Metal. I'm wondering if you've looked at that image you uploaded because if you had, you'd see that it's plastered with copyright violation notices. You cannot just take an image that has been uploaded to the Internet and then in turn upload it to Misplaced Pages for use here. Check-out the links above related to permission and donating material. I am not the one who tagged those images, but once they're tagged, I have to follow the rules (and I've done it every time you've re-added the image). I have not bothered to warn you since I assumed you understand what you're doing. This last time I realized that I had to make it perfectly clear that there's a problem with the image since you clearly did not understand it. Somehow, you turned around and blamed me for the problem with the image that you originally uploaded. You can put in the link, without the protocol like this: www.solidstaterecords.com/artists/51/Living_Sacrifice/. You can even use templates like {{url}} to wrap around it on occasion. Again, I don't need to see any of this, you need to clear the image for use on Misplaced Pages on the page where you uploaded it: here Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:41, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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Press releases are not reliable for genres

Press releases are not reliable for genres, as often genres are created or mentioned in a release for promotional reasons. This particular press release is especially promotional, so I'm wary of using it for any content at all.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 00:24, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

January 2016

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You have been pointed to {{Infobox musical artist}} on several occasions. You continue to add "associated acts" based on the shared involvement of one band member, which is against the guidelines. You format the infobox incorrectly, inserting breaks where there should not be.

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CM Nexus

This is an invaluable source to utilize to cite older publications, such as for Soul Embraced and others.The Cross Bearer (talk) 04:11, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

You can now get Focused fixed without the tag of notability at the top, and you can take another look at more citations for Overcome.The Cross Bearer (talk) 04:18, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

A page you started (Onward to Freedom) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Onward to Freedom, Metalworker14!

Misplaced Pages editor Walter Görlitz just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Lacks reliable sources and likely should not be an article. Other problems found and fixed. Have not reviewed prose.

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It's hard to take you seriously as an editor

When I remove WP:REPEATLINKs and then you restore them, like this, I find it difficult to take you seriously as an editor. The fact that you constantly add unsourced material; treat Misplaced Pages like it's a zine or fan site instead of using professional, journalistic and encyclopedic tone, and several other issues make me cringe when I see your edits, because you're causing a lot of work. Just like this edit. Did you bother to read WP:REPEATLINK? If you don't understand it, feel free to ask. If you question its application in a list of band members, discuss that. When you don't even acknowledge that it was removed, that the removal was explained, and it points to a guideline on editing, it once again shows that Misplaced Pages is not the place you should be editing. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:31, 21 February 2016 (UTC)