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Sojourner Truth

Greetings, I am glad that while you are still "semi-retired" you watch over Truth's article. I hope you stick around. Cheers, Caballero/Historiador 04:10, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Caballero1967. I appreciate the kind words. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 04:13, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

I'd appreciate a comment, if you don't mind

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Bernie_Sanders_Topic_Ban_Appeal_from_Sir_Joseph Sir Joseph 18:43, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Sir Joseph. I'll comment at WP:A/E, which is on my watchlist.

For future reference, please familiarize yourself with WP:CANVASS, which you may have violated by posting a message here. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 04:45, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I thought since you're not an admin so it's not a vote it wouldn't matter, but I guess with Wiki everything is a problem. And now some admin is proposing a six month ban for me I guess because I dared appeal the initial ban, I think. Although I'm not sure why. Sir Joseph 18:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Randolph and Rustin

Why did you remove the key organizers names from the article about the march on washington?

What was there:

A large 100,000 person march was first contemplated in 1941 by A. Philip Randolph along with the support of Bayard Rustin and a white dutch immigrant named A.J. Muste. After more than two decades in development, in 1962 A. Philip Randolph and Bayard Rustin would manage to organize an enormous group of civil rights, labor, and religious organizations, under the banner of "jobs, and freedom". Estimates of the number of participants varies from 200,000 to 300,000; Observers estimated that 75–80% of the marchers were black.

What you left in it's place:

The march was organized by a group of civil rights, labor, and religious organizations, under the banner of "jobs, and freedom". Estimates of the number of participants varied from 200,000 to 300,000; it is widely accepted that approximately 250,000 people participated in the march. Observers estimated that 75–80% of the marchers were black.

--Potguru (talk) 04:20, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Potguru. First, you're mistaken. I didn't remove Randolph and Rustin. With a small exception, I restored the paragraph to the way it was before you changed it.

As to why I reverted your changes, I just explained at Talk:March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom: you gave the 1940s March on Washington Movement too much emphasis by making it the subject of the second paragraph of the article. You need to read WP:LEAD and WP:UNDUE. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 04:38, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

You "reverted" an entire series of edits in one mouse click. Please put the edits back the way I had them and if you don't think "first contemplated in 1941 by" fits and it might better read "first contemplated by" then we can agree. Until then, your edit was far too agressive. For example, you added "it is widely accepted that approximately 250,000 people participated in the march." back to the page which is just silly. In other words, you completely ignored my edits all because you didn't like one word. Please undo your over-reaching edit. --Potguru (talk) 04:49, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Potguru, I'm sorry your feelings are hurt but this is exactly the way Misplaced Pages works. Please read WP:BRD: You made a bold edit, you were reverted, and now we're discussing your changes. (We should be discussing them at Talk:March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, where a larger group of editors could participate.)

We won't ever agree about 1941 because it doesn't belong in the lead. Somebody who wants a quick summary of the facts about the 1963 March on Washington doesn't need a digression about a march that didn't happen 20 years earlier.

With respect to the phrase I restored, that it's widely accepted that 250,000 people participated in the march, that's what reliable sources say. I'm sorry you think that's silly.

If you'd like to continue this discussion, please take it to Talk:March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 05:34, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Nope, I don't want to continue the discussion, this is a poorly written sentence which you are forcing me to fix a second time:

Estimates of the number of participants varied from 200,000 to 300,000; it is widely accepted that approximately 250,000 people participated in the march.

Now reads, without the unnecessary redundancy:

Estimates of the number of participants varied from 200,000 to 300,000.

Because telling people that 250,000 is between 200k and 300k is redundant.

Further I correct the edit you reverted which did not attribute the march to the actual organizers, particularly Rustin who was mentioned long ago in the talk page. Rustin is the main organizer of the march of the march and his name belongs (along with Randolph and AJ Muste).

previous text:

The march was organized by a group of civil rights, labor, and religious organizations,

to:

The march was created by A. Philip Randolph and Bayard Rustin who organized a group of civil rights,

Kindly leave my edits alone --Potguru (talk) 13:08, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Your comments at AE

Malik, please strongly consider retracting most of your comments at WP:AE. Your characterization of Guy Macon is way over the top. He has dominated the discussions (as have others), and perhaps he's been tendentious, but to call him a troll and king of the Jews clearly violates WP:NPA.

Worse, your threat of going to the press has nearly the same chilling effect as a legal threat. If I were an admin, I would have blocked you until you retracted it.

Again, please consider revising your comments.- MrX 12:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

ANI Notice

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Threats by Malik Shabazz. Thank you. Guy Macon (talk) 20:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)