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M16A3

The M16A3 does *not* have a railed flat top. It has a fixed carrying handle, just like the M16A2. The only difference between the is that the A2 can shoot in semi-auto or three round bursts, while the A3 shoots in semi or fully auto. M16 (Colt model number 602) - fully automatic, fixed carrying handle, old style fixed stock, no brass deflector or forward assist, older style iron sights, slab sided (no mag release fence), has a triple pronged, "duckbill" flash hider and triangular handguards. M16A1 (Colt model number 602 - fully automatic, fixed carrying handle, old style fixed stock, no brass deflector, has forward assist with teardrop shaped plunger, has older style iron sights, has small "fence" around the mag release button, has "bird cage" flash hider which produces the big star pattern we're used from the movies and triangular handguards M16A2 (Colt model number 645) - several improvements from A1. Burst fire, fixed handle, newer style fixed stock, has brass deflector and forward assist with round plunger. Has newer, adjustable iron sights. Full fence around mag release button. Has similar flash hider to A1, but only the slots on the top are open. Has round handguards and heavier barrel. M16A3 (Colt model number 646) - identical to the A2 except for the different fire modes. M16A4 (Colt model number 945) - identical to the A2 except from the removeable carry handle

--Stickie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.104.251 (talk) 15:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Notability

What makes this weapon notable? I added a notability tag, but it was deleted without comment. The article has few sources. The weapon appears to be yet another AR-15, distinguished only by the use of different materials in some components. I'm going to restore the tag until there's a consensus that the article is about a notable topic, or more sources are added, or an AFD resolves the matter. Felsic2 (talk) 18:37, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

The fact that it's a Turkish AR is fairly notable by itself. Your hatred for all things AR is fairly obvious, maybe you should try editing articles about things you like instead? Herr Gruber (talk) 09:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Please don't cast aspersions like that. It makes for a negative editing environment. And asking me to stop editing this topic is even more directly negative.

The guideline on notability is WP:N. It says:

Misplaced Pages articles cover notable topics—those that have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time, and are not outside the scope of Misplaced Pages. We consider evidence from reliable independent sources to gauge this attention.

So we need "reliable independent sources" (note the plural) to show that this weapon is notable. There is only one source, a self-published blog. That's why I added the notability tag. Since you dispute the notability, the best way to resolve this may be to file an AFD request and let the community decide. Felsic2 (talk) 16:06, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Stop pretending you're some wounded angel here, claiming you're not doing what you are doing is accusing me of lacking the pattern recognition skills of a small child. Herr Gruber (talk) 17:28, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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