Talk:Long-term effects of cannabis

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Editors, before adding content please refer to WP:MEDRS. Medical claims have different sourcing requirements than other wiki content. Secondary reviews published in respected medical journals from the last 5 years are good sources. Primary studies alone, news articles, etc are not good sources and will usually result in deleted content. Psyden (talk) 16:11, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't understand. The references were taken from a section on the Depersonalisation page. If the references are valid there, why are they not as valid here? Luxorbostian 00:29, 12 March 2016 (GMT)

They are not valid on that page either. I do not edit that page however. Psyden (talk) 00:36, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Overall Tone of Article and Veracity of Information

Wow. Just wow. Is this Misplaced Pages? This article is so obviously slanted against cannabis use that it rivals governmental and treatment-industry propoganda. I direct your attention to such obvious lies as "...and in the US 10 to 20% of consumers who use cannabis daily become dependent." Really? A 20% dependency rate? That's laughable. And the one accurate fact cited - the zero mortality rate - was only done so begrudgingly, surrounding it with weasely language suggesting that a lack of sufficient research renders that fact as suspect. 184.98.96.86 (talk) 20:12, 4 March 2016 (UTC) MrNaturalAZ 20160304

I do not believe that the general public will take much of this article seriously. While most claims are properly sourced, its tone is approaching that of NIDA propaganda. Much of the article mentions claims that are inconclusive, out of context, rarely occur, etc. Confounding is rarely eliminated and evidence is weak for many claims. Some claims are likely simple associations, yet many readers will interpret this as implying causation. These points are not always made clear to the reader. Psyden (talk) 15:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Our recreational drug articles in general leave a lot to be desired. Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better... it's not. Sizeofint (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Twisted Article

This is one of the most twisted articles I've read on wikipedia. Let me get this straight? webmd is a valid source of clinical research? Smoking Grass does not cause COPB so all that coughing you see with users coughing up blood is what then?

---pfff — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.57.23.82 (talk) 16:25, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

I assume you mean COPD? Coughing has many causes, coughing up blood is not a symptom of COPD. The COPD claims are not sourced to WebMD. Psyden (talk) 16:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

causation vs. correlation

This article doesn't do a good job of distinguishing between causation and correlation. Use of the phrases "increased risk" (Depressive disorder), "worsen the occurrence" (Mania symptoms) and "increases the risk" (Suicidal behavior) asserts causality instead of accurately discussing correlation. It is just as, if not more, likely that persons with depression, mania or suicidality are using cannabis to cope with these conditions than that the cannabis is causing or contributing to these conditions (i.e. increasing the risk or worsening the occurrence). Let's talk about it and see if we can make more accurate descriptions. 74.42.81.206 (talk) 06:08, 16 February 2015 (UTC)nate vazquez

Ideally the article should reflect the language of the sources. Sizeofint (talk) 21:56, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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Bad Article

Why is there no information about the health benefits assoicated with use? And also that studies that allege some harmful effects---this fails to mention that its the smoke, not the cannabinoids themselves, which have any known links to cancer. In fact, studies have shown they have strong anti-cancer/anti-tumor properties. Came to this article and only found one sided, slant ed, and bad info. This article needs expansion. 2601:645:8302:842F:C06:55B2:F8B:716 (talk) 22:42, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, psychoactive drug articles are pretty crappy in general on Misplaced Pages. I agree it needs work. When dealing with medical content we use the WP:MEDRS sourcing guideline. This restricts some of the sources we can use. You're welcome to improve this article as long as it stays within MEDRS. Sizeofint (talk) 02:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

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