Misplaced Pages

Talk:Codeine

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Lowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs) at 01:47, 24 August 2016 (Archiving 45 discussion(s) to Talk:Codeine/Archive 1) (bot). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 01:47, 24 August 2016 by Lowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs) (Archiving 45 discussion(s) to Talk:Codeine/Archive 1) (bot)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Codeine article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
Article policies
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 12 months 
Ideal sources for Misplaced Pages's health content are defined in the guideline Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and are typically review articles. Here are links to possibly useful sources of information about Codeine.
This article has not yet been rated on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
WikiProject iconPharmacology High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Pharmacology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Pharmacology on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PharmacologyWikipedia:WikiProject PharmacologyTemplate:WikiProject Pharmacologypharmacology
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
WikiProject iconChemicals High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Chemicals, a daughter project of WikiProject Chemistry, which aims to improve Misplaced Pages's coverage of chemicals. To participate, help improve this article or visit the project page for details on the project.ChemicalsWikipedia:WikiProject ChemicalsTemplate:WikiProject Chemicalschemicals
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

User:MrKIA11/Archive Box

Regarding references to codeine legality in Denmark

Noticed that the article says the reference is missing so went digging around, but the only openly available and valid reference articles about "Kodimagnyl" are all in Danish, with no English counterparts. The thing is that this is a purely Danish product, produced here and only sold here, and thus doesn't have available documentation in other languages. As such, editing to add the references is problematic, and I'm far from an expert on neither pharmacology or chemistry, so would rather leave it up to someone who is.

As to the actual drug, "Kodimagnyl" is the brand name, and it contains 150 mg acetalic (sp?) acid ASA, 9.6 mg codeine, and 150 mg magnesium oxide.

As for relevant references:

  • From the National Health Department's section for control with legal drugs: (these are Word documents, in Danish - the pharmacological legal documentation for the products as I understand it).
  • From netdoktor.dk (most trustworthy medical site we have, as it's independent and run by doctors): (the common-man's description of the drug).

This remains the only codeine based OTC product available in Denmark. As of a legal change a couple years ago, no painkiller (no matter what it is) may be sold in amounts greater than 20 pills without prescription (although I've seen pharmacists willingly greater amounts, but I'm unsure if that's legal or not). --Metalbunny (talk) 00:46, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Please fix this tiny mistake, someone

At the bottom of the page, there are two "Opioidergics" templates, one on top and one at the bottom (with the others in-between), so probably it was forgotten there by someone who edited it, I don't edit pages so often to do it smoothly and more of can't be bothered to, so just putting it out there - look at the bottom of the page and you'll see it there - twice. Thanks if anyone bothers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.37.236 (talk) 23:22, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Also this mistake. "Evidence does not support its use for cough suppression" Allanana79 (talk) 17:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

syrup

When used to relieve dry coughs, codeine is used in doses ranging from 5-15 mg and is usually mixed as a syrup with other drugs such as promethazine which is an antihistamine/antipsychotic with strong sedative activity (some formulations come with different types of antihistamines), guaifenesin which is an expectorant, and other drugs.

In Belgium, seven syrups containing codeine are approved for sale in pharmacies, none of them contain any other active ingredient: BROMOPHAR (Qualiphar),BRONCHODINE (Pharmacobel),BRONCHOSEDAL CODEINE (Johnson & Johnson Consumer), BRONCHO-PECTORALIS CODEINE (Medgenix), GLOTTYL (Meda Pharma), TOULARYNX (Qualiphar),TOUX-SAN CODEINE (Nycomed) (source: official list)
So in which countries apart from the US are those mixtures sold, or even legal? Ssscienccce (talk) 23:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
In Denmark we have AFAIK only one cough syrup that contains codeine (only it's considered codeine in liquid form and is primarily sold as a painkiller, but it contains ethanol like most our efficient cough syrups do). Ref: (article is in Danish, but from the most trustworthy medicinal website we have). It's however typically only prescribed for severe and painful cough, or to use the codeine's effect to suppress the cough (it works for some people I guess), and only rarely so. Typically efficient cough syrups here, both OTC and prescription, contain ephedrine instead for the pain relief. From personal experience, the codeine based cough syrup is inefficient while the ephedrine works almost instantly and has fewer side effects (whether or not that's relevant for the article I cannot say). --Metalbunny (talk) 00:10, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Non-existent reference

As far as I can tell, "The December 2008 issue of The Bulletin of the National Codeine OTC Lobby (Vol. XVIII, No. 4)" is a false reference - this organization does not seem to actually exist beyond Misplaced Pages and other websites that only seem to copy/paste what is in this paragraph regarding OTC access to Codeine. I've had a professional literature search done and come back with absolutely nothing.

Greece, clarification needed

The entry on Greece seems contradictory ]. It says you cannot have it even with a prescription and then, that you can have it with a prescription. Clarification is needed, for instance, it might be the case that you cannot have it under a foreign prescription but you can with a local one. Politis (talk) 14:29, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Emprazil mention - kind of a leadon to a #5 formulation

Emprazil has been banned in the United States since the 80's but was under scrutiny in the 60's. I don't need to cite a source for that as it's on Misplaced Pages already. By mentioning an Emprazil formulation with codeine with versions of 1-5, it leads one on to believe it is legal. Further mentioning of a #5 being 90mg codeine mislieads many to think there may be a Tylenol 5.

I just think it should be mentioned that Emprazil is banned in the United States and many western nations. In particular, Emprazil doesn't even exist! Only its generic which is rare.

Kyle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CCB9:9F20:95C5:115D:D914:A969 (talk) 00:42, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Schedule of codeine as a controlled substance needs revision

Codeine formulations over 90mg and by itself is Schedule 2 in the U.S. but formulations such as APAP are schedule 3 and cough syrups like promethazine with codeine are schedule V. (Five.) I think listing it only as a schedule two can be misleading. Similarly, Schedule 1 in Canada, not all formulations.

While it may be accurate when mentioning pure codeine, most users are researching formulations (particularly APAP/codeine) and often just look for codeine. Yet it is wide knowledge that most codeine is in a mixture with other prominent meds. Just think it needs revision in several areas to better note that — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CCB9:9F20:95C5:115D:D914:A969 (talk) 00:47, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Categories: