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I think that this content should be merged into the article on vivisection. Comments? Rosemary Amey 21:35, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

No Animal testing is the correct term I'm going to make some edits to this article which is going to change it somewhatGeni 13:01, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I don't care which it's called, I'm just saying it should be one article rather than two. Rosemary Amey 01:09, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

vivisection refers to a specific practice.. Animal testing is whole area. While the vivisection article could do with a heavy change of focus it has a right to exist (the sections on history and what the practice directly involves belong there I tend to feel that most of the ethical arguments are dealing with the general subject of animal testing so should be in their article).Geni 20:19, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Cleanup

I fixed a ton of spelling and grammatical errors (please spellcheck, people), but I have no idea what they are trying to say in the Efficacy Studies section...if you can tell, please fix it.--Hereticam

Tried to make it clearer. (By the way, you can quickly sign your name and the date by typing four tildes (~) together.) Rosemary Amey 01:09, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

not only medical

i think this page also should deal with the testing of cosmetics on animals - i cant deal wit hit as i have a major POV problem with it and it'll show, but anoyone else is welcom to try it and i can chek it or whatever if wanted/needed. Selphie 09:30, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

At short notice I can't think of any country where this practice is still carried out.Geni 09:45, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

its still carried out all over the world......people just like to keep it hush-hush as they know it causes major uproar. next time you go buy shampoo, soap or somesuch just have a look on the back of a few different brands, some say theyre not tested on animals (which is often a lie - either in part or wholly) and some dont. look it up on google or yahoo for details or i can give you exapmles of one type of testing if you really want. Selphie 10:06, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC) **

Then put in the article. Just make sure you can support any claims you make.Geni 10:10, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

i'll do some research first........cos obviously im gonna use facts and list both sides of the arguement. Selphie 10:33, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

LD50

The United States and Japan are frequently criticised for their insistence on animal testing. As of 2004, both Japan and the US FDA require the results of an LD50 toxicity test on any new substance's datasheet.

What is the source for this?Geni 11:08, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

That's a very good point. The FDA appear not to promote the LD50, e.g. . See also . This needs more research into the various laws.

Kyz's comment in the history

You may well be right Kyz but I'm still unhappy with it because "most people", as you say, is an undocumented, unquantified group and I don't see the evidence to target animal rights activists in this section of the article. Maybe that part of the paragraph should be moved to the "controversy" section of the page?

(user:Wayland)

I agree with moving the sentence to the controversy section. I have also mentioned that animal welfare activists may also mis-label all animal testing as vivisection. The statement states that the term may be used, it does not accuse all AR/AW activists of using the term (for example, the RSPCA don't; the BUAV do). Kyz 10:36, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)