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Dinesh D'Souza
Initiated by TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) at 22:15, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Involved parties
- TheTimesAreAChanging (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Oneshotofwhiskey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
Statement by TheTimesAreAChanging
User:Oneshotofwhiskey openly boasts that he is WP:NOTHERE to build a neutral encyclopedia. In his own words, he is an activist intending to expose "the paranoia and most outrageous behaviors of convicted felon Dinesh D'Souza (who himself sees conspiracy theories everywhere and relies solely on emotional reasoning for his worldview)"; this mentality has unsurprisingly caused him to challenge basic tenets of WP:BLP. For example, Oneshotofwhiskey replaced the previously accepted photo of D'Souza with his mugshot, and accused D'Souza of promoting "conspiracy theory" in the lead. Discussion on the talk page has yielded no consensus in favor of labeling D'Souza a "convicted felon" or "conspiracy theorist"—in fact, despite Oneshotofwhiskey's suggestions to the contrary, he is essentially alone in advocating those changes. (An RfC has recently been opened on the "conspiracy theorist" question, with one vote in favor of including the label.) Nor am I alone in challenging Oneshotofwhiskey's POV-pushing language. Although he has since dropped the mugshot angle, Oneshotofwhiskey has continued to attack Dinesh D'Souza with a tenacity and complete disregard for sources or standards that is really quite shocking. Compare the old, accepted "Personal life" section with the Oneshotofwhiskey version, complete with a brand-new "Marriage scandal" subsection. Is there any other BLP written in this manner? Of course not; Oneshotofwhiskey is simply making a mockery of Misplaced Pages policy. Oneshotofwhiskey has mass deleted over 2,000 bytes of previously accepted material from reliable sources like Alan Dershowitz eight times now (, , , , , , , ), claiming it is "WP:SYNTH" to include Dershowitz's attributed opinion because "he was not involved in this trial of D'Souza" (needless to say, that is not a proper application of the policy), and adding "Dershowitz himself is a shoddy source considering his own actions in helping murderer O.J. Simpson get away with his crimes." Oneshotofwhiskey continues to rant about how D'Souza is "a pathological liar, delusional, mentally-unstable, (and) an adulterer", and frequently makes claims that fail verification, as when he attributed the following text to this Slate article: "In 2012, D'Souza released 2016: Obama's America, a conservative political documentary film based on his 2010 book The Roots of Obama's Rage. Both offer his personal partisan opinions and anecdotal observations." Since Oneshotofwhiskey believes WP:BRD does not apply to his changes, I feel I have no choice but to seek your assistance.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 22:15, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Statement by Oneshotofwhiskey
I wouldn't read too much into my statements on the talk. In these political talk pages, they devolve into political debate. Pay attention to my edits. I have MORE than compromised with this editor. If you review this editor's history, he engages in personal attacks as a habit and he currently has confessed to editwarring and violating 3RR on this page.
My edits fall well within WP:CITE and are respected by consensus on the talk page. Wish this editor would do the same.Oneshotofwhiskey (talk) 22:35, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
- Also, here is the current arbitration still underway for this user. In it he has blatantly violated 3RR and has admitted to such. He's essentially confessed to knowingly-editwarring, he's just basically saying he feels justified in doing so. In his defense, in attempt to stop his partisan conservative-POV vandalizing of the page, I may have inadvertently violated the 3RR rule myself. I only mention that since I do not believe that I am above the rules and I readily accept the consequences for my actions, intentional or otherwise. Thank you for taking the time to arbitrate this if necessary. But I don't think this is rocket science. Seems simple enough.Oneshotofwhiskey (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Statement by very uninvolved Ks0stm
Seems better suited to ANI than arbitration as currently framed. Ks0stm 22:22, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Statement by Robert McClenon
This is a dispute involving American politics in the twenty-first century and is within the scope of WP:ARBAP2. Disruptive editing can be dealt with by Arbitration Enforcement. I see no need for new arbitration. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:59, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Statement by Ryk72
Concur with Robert McClenon & Ks0stm. Suggest this be copied "as is" to AE & declined here. - Ryk72 00:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Dinesh D'Souza: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/6/0>-Dinesh_D'Souza-2016-10-18T04:59:00.000Z">
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)
- Decline This just needs a bit of Administrator TLC and some DR beyond a single talkpage, not 4 weeks of Arbitration. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 04:59, 18 October 2016 (UTC)"> ">
- Decline as Amanda says this request just needs to be handled by an admin and it appears that Oshwah has started to do so. I'll note though, that AE won't be able to help with Oneshotofwhiskey, or TheTimesAreAChanging for that matter, as they hadn't been made aware of discretionary sanctions (they both have now). Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:32, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Decline AE can solve this issue. @Callanecc: I made Oneshotofwhiskey aware with this edit. --In actu (Guerillero) | My Talk 14:11, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Decline Can be handled elsewhere. Doug Weller talk 15:00, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Decline. Salvio 16:48, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Decline and divert to ANI. Courcelles (talk) 18:11, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Decline and divert to ANI. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:08, 19 October 2016 (UTC)