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Trump Sexual Misconduct

It's not RS because the butler is clearly not independent and is also intensely "loyal" to Mr. Trump, as a good butler often is. If you don't like "not RS" then it's clearly UNDUE. Just because a self-serving statement is repeated in the news media does not make it well-sourced content for an encyclopedia. Please undo your reinsertion, which is a violation of DS, and state your view on talk. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 16:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Muhammad Ali

Greetings fella. You might want to keep an eye on the article at this very time, as there's a touch of edit-warring going on regarding title reign stats. I won't be able to check for another twelve hours. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 05:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

My source from Muhammad Ali's page on Boxrec.com: On September 14, 1964, Ali was stripped of the World Boxing Association title for signing to fight Sonny Liston in a rematch. The contract for their first fight included a return clause, which the WBA did not allow.

Ali was WBA heavyweight champion 4 times. From February 25, 1964 to September 14, 1964. From February 6, 1967 to April 28, 1967. From October 30, 1974 to February 15, 1978. And finally from September 15, 1978 to September 6, 1979. It is on the BoxRec.com website. Please allow me to correct this Tmacmusicmagician (talk) 15:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

https://books.google.com/books?id=NN4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq=sonny+liston+wba+heavyweight+champion&source=bl&ots=HvzAMIKSdk&sig=C41zZ5KG9_e-N1pmhTnLRJHqaM8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjuwpH67trQAhUFxWMKHYULDJI4FBDoAQgcMAE#v=onepage&q=sonny%20liston%20wba%20heavyweight%20champion&f=false

This article from Ebony magazine will prove that both Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali were recognized as champions by the WBA. And that Ali was stripped of the WBA title before regaining it against Terrell Tmacmusicmagician (talk) 15:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Biographies of living people

With reference to your comments at ANI:

1. There is nothing "peculiar" about asking for urgent admin action to prevent BLP violations - particularly when the offender has been given multiple chances to retract. WP:ANI is the correct venue for that.
2. There is no "AE report": it is an "AE ban appeal" and it was Hidden Tempo's choice to open it. That does not give him immunity from sanctions for BLP violations.
3. Misplaced Pages takes any violation of BLP policy extremely seriously. This isn't a trivial matter or even a matter just for Misplaced Pages. The Wikimedia Foundation board was concerned enough to pass a resolution on the issue - see wmf:Resolution:Biographies of living people.

I'd urge you to thoroughly read WP:BLP if you're going to be contributing to biographies of living people – even more thoroughly if you're editing in an area subject to discretionary sanctions. --RexxS (talk) 19:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

RexxS i've thought about this and i am in complete agreement with you as far as the WP:BLP policy is concerned. Besides everything else it is a fool proof method to place the burden of responsibility for any negative content about the living person on the referenced source. I wish we could have explained this more gently to Hidden Tempo keeping in mind the fact that he is a new editor. Soham321 (talk) 19:46, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding. As a sort of "olive branch" to HT, I've tried to make some specific suggestions on how to make use of the NBC News source on his talk page. I arrived late to this party after I saw his post on Bishonen's talk page, as I don't follow US politics. Nevertheless, I do agree that it's a pity somebody didn't explain more to him earlier. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 19:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Reply

To this:

1. If someone was not a new user, this is not a problem. He simply might have a previous on-wiki experience. No one was talking about WP:SOCK. This is something I did not investigate.
2. Providing an opinion about a user who appealed their topic ban on AE is fine. The opinion was based on diffs and other comments provided by other users on the page. This is not WP:BATTLE. I never interacted with this user before.
3. Commenting about WP-related essays or other materials written by other contributors is also fine.

In brief, nowhere in my statement I made a bad faith assumption. Please reconsider. My very best wishes (talk) 19:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC)