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★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 13:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- The IP is block evading already (31.200.133.77), which is what I suggested might happen in the third email. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 13:44, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- He/She is also evading with this IP 178.167.200.31 and they also violated 3rr with above IP. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 15:09, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
I also ask that Ronnie O'Sullivan's page be protected, please. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 15:13, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for all the help. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 02:52, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
McMenemy sources etc
Look, I do get it. Wikis are not reliable because anyone can add any random thing. And that link just stayed because I copied them both over for quickness to try and end this, I'm on my phone so typing the coding symbols is tiresome. But to be honest, there are a number of reference books I've read where I have some knowledge of the subject and notice the author has stated something that is inaccurate or just wrong, albeit innocently and accidentally.
Likewise I see 'reliable' online databases referenced here a lot like London Hearts which has a lot of good obscure stats, but who's to say it isn't just one guy with some domain space who fills in some blanks randomly at times? It all looks fine to me, but who can be sure?
And this is the disclaimer from Toon1892.com: "In presenting this information I would like to point out that I have no connection with, or affiliation to, Newcastle United Football Club, or any other organisation. All research is conducted by myself and where evidence points to conflicting conclusions the decision of which to include is at my sole discretion.". Now that is one lone guy who is trying his best to present the information correctly, but ultimately he is the God of his site. And there is no-one helping him so it would be easy to miss stuff, like if a player has a brother and father who were both internationals, that's an interesting little note in my opinion but it wasn't on there. But again what is on there seems OK so great, let's quote it.
Contrastingly, yes any loony can add nonsense to the Celtic Wiki, but like Misplaced Pages it will be monitored and scrutinised vigorously by obsessives and the narrow subject range involved and their devotion to it, as well as the collective aspect of collating the information, presents a decent case for the majority of the stuff on there being right as far as anyone is able to investigate it, especially the crazy disorganised world of football from 100 years ago. Still not reliable but the best we can do in some circumstances.
So you can lecture me about this if you like, I realise I am a noob that needs to be reined in; obviously you are in the right as far as the guidelines are concerned, and I understand why they are there (we don't want crap being added and referenced from more crap and then it gets quoted by some lazy journalist and shared on social media and repeated on TV and suddenly the crap is almost fact), but in this instance I feel you're overemphasising it a wee bit. Cheers, peace Crowsus (talk) 20:29, 22 December 2016 (UTC) PS seem to have added this to the middle of the page instead of the bottom, apologies
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Alan Pardew
Hi GS, please can you keep an eye on Pard's page (protect if necessary)...he's just been removed as manager CPFC and the page has already come in for some attention. Thanks. Season's greetings! Eagleash (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of List of footballers born in Argentina who have played for other national teams for deletion
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