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Indian English
Hi Filpro, Could you please add "Indian English" template in the talk page of these India related articles here / here / here User:Sro23 has removed that template despite knowing those articles are all written in Indian English. Thanks--103.52.255.113 (talk) 05:59, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Meh, the user doesn't seem to be causing any harm. Filpro (talk) 18:29, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah thats right but why he is removing "Indian English" template from talk page am unable to understand. I thought may be you could readd that template in articles which you think is appropriate. For eg "talk:indian navy" and "talk:indian air force" article u recently added Indian English template if u check history u will come to know that the template has been removed multiple times. So please go through the India relatd article from the list that i proved and check if "Indian English"template required or not. Thanks--103.42.173.155 (talk) 04:45, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Maghreb countries and French
Hi! I read this edit - while French may not be a "recognized national language" it is clearly de facto a significant language in the country (French language in Morocco). Next time for Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia please ensure it's listed in "other languages" WhisperToMe (talk) 04:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Sure. Thanks for notifying me. Filpro (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Language categories
Hi, I see that you're working on language categories so I thought I should bring it to your attention that it's usually best if the names of categories (like Category:Dialects of Punjabi) follow the name of the corresponding article (Punjabi dialects in this case). It's not just for consistency, article titles are usually subject to greater scrutiny than category names, and sometimes there are differences in meaning that might not be apparent at first sight. A "dialect of X" usually implies the position of "X" as an established standard prestigious language for these dialects; whereas "X dialect" has a broader scope and can also include macrolanguages/dialect clusters, where such a relationship might, or might not hold. – Uanfala (talk) 19:58, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. "X dialect" would be much better. I will move the category soon. Thanks. Filpro (talk) 20:04, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- You're renaming it now? That's fast! Thank you for your understanding and diligence. – Uanfala (talk) 20:13, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Problamistic User Uanfala
It had been extended edit war by Uanfala .
- Despite nearly 10 Wikipedians not agreeing with his views on talk pages of effected Talk pages.
- He cherry picks and tries to define dialects in to Language.
- Misplaced Pages is not a dictionary.
- Wikipedians can not cherry pick.
- Wikipedians can not impose a point a view.
- Wikipedians move with consensus.
- Misplaced Pages is an informational project. It can not misguide about language hierarchy.
- Only standardisation of few dialects can not make them language. However few follow this rule for defining Hindko Saraiki Potwari as language. He cherry pick those.
- Even those "few" along with "opposite others" have details whether "Explicit" or "Implicit" which demonstrate a common hierarchy Language Family: Indo European, Branch: Indo Iranian, Sub branch: Indo Aryan, Macro Language: Punjabi, Language: Western Punjabi, Dialects: Potwari Hindko Saraiki and many others, Sub dialects: North Hindko South Hindko.
- All such linguistic sources are mentioned / added by many wikipedians.
- If we accept Uanfala version of "cherry pick" and "Defining" then we will end up with a dilemma mentioned by User Flipro on this move request for 30 odd Punjabi dialects .
Time to report User Uanfala for topic ban for Cherry picking, Forum shoping, Edit warring, ignoring talk page consensus on western punjabi diffrent dialect talk pages. Please you being a registered senior editor start the proceeding for Topic Ban and violation of 3Rs. 39.60.232.41 (talk) 01:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)₯€₠€₯
- The above message was also posted on the talk pages of several other users, and it has already received responses on Andy Wang's and on Paine Ellsworth's. – Uanfala (talk) 10:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Andaman and Nicobar Islands
Hi Filpro, Please explain why you deleted the name Andaman and Nicobar Islands in Bengali language? talk —Preceding undated comment added 15:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- It isn't an official language but you can add it back if it really matters. Filpro (talk) 20:19, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Western Punjabi
Hi, you're welcome to comment here: Talk:Western Punjabi#Proper topic of article. – Uanfala (talk) 12:15, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Asian Paints Ltd
Hi @Filpro:, @Jethwarp:, @Kailash29792:, @Dharmadhyaksha: I have created a new article Asian Paints Ltd, could pls help develop it as early as possible because one user wants to delete it why I don't know.--Shashipushpa (talk) 14:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think @Lourdes: has handled the situation. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:40, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yes I did. Thanks. Lourdes 05:42, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks guys.--Shashipushpa (talk) 04:55, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yes I did. Thanks. Lourdes 05:42, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think @Lourdes: has handled the situation. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:40, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Saraiki dialect of Punjabi Language
- User Uanfala is trying to declare different Punjabi dialect as separate language.
- He Cherry picks, Forum shops, Edit wars and ignores talk page consensus on western Punjabi different dialect talk pages.
- An RFC Saraiki is a Language has just concluded with no consensus. So you being a senior registered editor please restore pre dispute version of Saraiki dialect article .
- Also please make corrections to Hindko dialect and Potwari-Pahari dialect in same fashion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.50.69.203 (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
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Reference errors on 24 November
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kashmir
Save kashmir save life Ashundayu (talk) 13:26, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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Khanda
Sikh article, quote "The greater Punjab region is the historic homeland of the Sikhs, although significant communities exist around the world."
Khalistan article, quote "The Punjab region has been the traditional homeland for the Sikhs."
The Khanda is a symbol of the Sikh nation and Punjab, which represents the Punjabi and Sikh people and their homeland.
Peeta Singh (talk) 23:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
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Golden Temple
Hi, Filpro. I ran across this edit from last year, in which you wiped out the whole disambiguation page to create a redirect to Harmandir Sahib. You cited WP:COMMONNAME in the edit summary, but what you did was really a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, where the title of a dab page is turned into a redirect to the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Making a change like that is usually done after consensus is reached in a requested move discussion. Then the dab page is moved to the same title with "(disambiguation)" in the title (in this case, Golden Temple (disambiguation)).
Besides lack of consensus, the method you used didn't take the contents of the disambiguation page into account, leaving readers on their own to find similarly named articles. I have created the dab page again at Golden Temple (disambiguation), and placed a hatnote at Harmandir Sahib so people can find it if they want to. Please don't unilaterally decide on a primary topic or delete content without discussing it first. Thanks. — Gorthian (talk) 02:31, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
December 2016
Hello, I'm FriyMan. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Marathi language have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. FriyMan (talk) 05:34, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- FriyMan, removing unsourced content isn't really considered as unconstructive editing. – Uanfala (talk) 11:10, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Uanfala, I am still learning, Thank you for your feedback. - FriyMan (talk) 11:29, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Infobox skyline
Hi again. What is your reasoning? I genuinely thought you made a mistake the last time to removed it because it was initially started by a sockpuppet said it's per MOS but clearly had no guidelines to cite--refer to his talk page. Now you're doing it again? You are an experienced editor. Why? I can't keep WP:AGFing you at this rate.
PS:"Nicknames" by definition a never official, they are sourced in Kerala, and this is the second time you're removing them too. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:55, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
List of countries by number of Internet users
Hello. Why did you revert all infos from 2015. to 2013? List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users
I made new stats from official ITU and World bank source, so why did you move back to old infos? Only thing which miss in table of 2015. is ranking by %, precisely % ranking should be corrected and I don't have time for that now. All other things are correct, so revert back to my infos.
There are official info for 2014., but I went immediately to 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.45.203.240 (talk) 11:55, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Saraiki RM
Hi, there's a move discussion at Talk:Saraiki dialect, where you're welcome to participate. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 02:55, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
India map reverseal
About your reversal, is there something wrong with the disputed areas color ? I propose that the displayed country controlled, but disputed, areas be colored with a darker tone of yellow. The displayed country claimed area, but not controlled, with a darker gray. The reason is that otherwise there are editors that delete the maps altogether, claiming that the maps are wrong, as here. Where is the discussion about map color ? Note that I haven't lost any SVG layer. --Robertiki (talk) 02:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- Those editors may not have the full grasp of the de facto Kahsmir situation and I'd revert their edits and point them to various discussions on the maps. I don't think it puts a good view for the viewers if Jammu and Kashmir is randomly shaded yellow and unncessarily highlgihts the map and distracts from the whole point of these pushpin maps. (Example: If I'm looking at Gorakhpur Nuclear Power Plant at the article Nuclear power in India, it would be ridiculous for the state to be highlighted.) If India's Kashmir is shaded yellow, then China's and Pakistan's Kashmir should also be for their maps. Also, in your map, Siachen Glacier and Demjok are oddly left out when they should be shaded yellow. Filpro (talk) 21:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- Is there a place discussing on the maps ? I understand that the highlights are distracting (I would agree), but those editors are sometimes really pesky, bothering the other editors to exhaustion with their whims, and deleting useful information. About the colors, my first choice of color are too bright, maybe something duller, less distracting, could do the job of keeping them quiet. And you are correct, all maps should reflect the same rules (China map would have Aksai Chin a different shade of yellow and Arunachal Pradesh a different shade of gray, and so on). And you are also correct, I forgot to place Siachen Glacier and Demjok. --Robertiki (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- Have modified it with duller color. Could it be acceptable ? If it is ok, I would create China_location_map_disputed.svg with same rules. --Robertiki (talk) 01:39, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I think the latest one is good. Also don't forget to shade in Siachen and Demjok! Thanks. Filpro (talk) 21:08, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure about the Kashmir-related discussions to point to and I don't think I can dig up any right now but you can also consult the India and Pakistan noticeboards. Filpro (talk) 21:15, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Done also for China] as you may verify here. Pakistan map] is not layered and needs more work. --Robertiki (talk) 01:41, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. I made a few corrections to the maps and you can check them out. Please notify me if I made any mistakes. Filpro (talk) 03:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Done also for China] as you may verify here. Pakistan map] is not layered and needs more work. --Robertiki (talk) 01:41, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
January 2017
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox state or union territory of India
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There seems to be similar edits by user User:Filpro with regard to official languages of Central Government of India, or Union, on pages Languages with official status in India , Languages of India, Names of India in its official languages.
Ref. http://lawmin.nic.in/olwing/coi/coi-english/Const.Pock%202Pg.Rom8Fsss(23).pdf
and http://rajbhasha.nic.in/en/constitutional-provisions .
As is clearly stated per Section 2, of article 343 of the Constitution of the Republic of India, "nglish language shall continue to be used for all the official purposes of the Union for which it was being used immediately before such commencement..." - Indicating English was before and remains due to subsequent jurisprudence per Official Languages Act, 1963, an official language of the Union. A status extended to the Hindi language for similar use by the Central Government only post this wording. Please reevaluate in light of jurisprudence already detailed in Languages of India, apart from the relevant section of the article of the Constitution cited which is written in English and pointed out above, and kindly discuss here rather than edit-warring and using terms like "Please check your own sources, you are not making much sense." Sincerely, 110.227.108.193 (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Languages with official status in India , Languages of India, Names of India in its official languages. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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